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Tohsgib posted 08-01-2011 10:48 AM ET (US)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/BiggieFL/Revenge/0514111353-01. jpg
As Rev. James Cleveland(James Brown) from the Blues Brothers would say..."Can you SEE the light!"
This may not be ideal for all of you out there but for those who want to go higher...jack it up and see for yourself.
contender posted 08-01-2011 11:26 AM ET (US)
Lot of water in the back of the boat...You need some kind of check valve drain plug...
Tohsgib posted 08-01-2011 11:40 AM ET (US)
No...I was beached so stern was down low.
Waterwonderland posted 08-01-2011 03:24 PM ET (US)
Nick, this should quell the critics that contend “you don't know jack”.
Buckda posted 08-01-2011 08:17 PM ET (US)
That's not seawater, that's melted ice from the keg cooler...
DeeVee posted 08-01-2011 11:16 PM ET (US)
Nick,
I just installed a 5" setback jack plate on my Outrage 22 with a new to me 3.3 liter 200 Evinrude Etec. I can't remember how high I am above the keel bit it's up there. I want to say I am at 4" above the keel.
I think I am really going to like this jack plate a lot. I have only taken the boat out once since installing the Etec. I was able to hit 45 mph at 5800 rpm with a 17 pitch, four blade Offshore propeller. I had quite a bit more throttle available.
Doug Vazquez
Tohsgib posted 08-02-2011 11:21 AM ET (US)
It makes rinsing off the PTnT assembly much easier ;)
outragesteve posted 08-02-2011 07:53 PM ET (US)
DeepVee: You may remember me: I bought the Yamaha control from you...thanks! Question: What steering are you using on your setup with the bracket? I have Seastar (center) and I'm told with a fixed jack plate it will interfere with the steering cylinder. Of course, If I were to use an an adjustable bracket I could raise the engine to clear the original transom. Thanks!
Tohsgib posted 08-03-2011 10:01 AM ET (US)
Just the stock Teleflex steering. I do not see how hydraulic steering would be interfered with.
DeeVee posted 08-04-2011 09:37 AM ET (US)
My steering cylinder would hit the transom , except the outboard is raised high enough to clear it. I do have clearance issue with the bracket that I connect the kicker steering to. I used the adjustable tilt limiter switch to stop the tilt before it hits the transom. It still tilts high enough to use the trailer tilt support.
Doug
Tohsgib posted 08-05-2011 10:38 AM ET (US)
With a jack plate your engine is higher and does not need to be tilted all the way up to clear the water. If I tilt mine all the way the skeg isliterally 6-8" above the water so I tilt it down a tad whuch also relieves some pressure on the tilt system.
zotcha posted 08-07-2011 05:22 PM ET (US)
And drains the lower unit, preventing freezing while slipped. Oh wait. I Slipped. zot.
DeeVee posted 08-09-2011 06:35 PM ET (US)
I finally remembered to check the relationship between the keel of my Outrage 22 and the anti-ventilation plate on my new to me 3.3 liter Etec 200.
At the trim position which places the plate parallel with the keel, the plate is a full 2" above the keel.
Doug Vazquez
Tom W Clark posted 08-09-2011 07:29 PM ET (US)
Doug -- With 5 inches of set back, you can raise your motor another inch.
RobertRibley posted 08-09-2011 11:53 PM ET (US)
Nick
What year is your 13, And what prop are you running SS ? With
the 40hp.
Robert
wezie posted 08-10-2011 09:32 AM ET (US)
When I have had the chance, observing how quickly the water "rises" from under the stern when planing, has always surprised me.
The set back of jack plates places the engine in water that is above the level of the bottom of the boat, allowing the engine to be raised even farther.
Interference with steering when tilting, may be adjusted where you mount the lift on the transom and where you mount the engine on jack plate.
Thanks for the pictures.
Tohsgib posted 08-10-2011 12:54 PM ET (US)
13 is a 1981 with bottom paint and runs a 2004 Suzuki 40 mounted ALL the way up with a 11.75x17" Michigan polished SS Rapture detuned to about 15.5" She runs 38 with bimini up at 5800(redline). I think with bimini down I can hit 40. The Rapture is a VERY aggressive prop like the Stiletto so 15.5 is more like a 17+" SST or equiv. and why my speeds are where they are at.
Tohsgib posted 08-10-2011 03:36 PM ET (US)
Ran the same Rapture on my 1994 40hp 2 smoke on the same boat(before repitched) and she would do about 5400rpm WOT and 37.5 was my best. 40hp is 40hp but I think the extra cyl on the Suzuki makes it a bit more powerfull than the twin.

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Author	Topic: The answer to "how high can I raise my engine" question
Tohsgib	posted 08-01-2011 10:48 AM ET (US) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/BiggieFL/Revenge/0514111353-01. jpg As Rev. James Cleveland(James Brown) from the Blues Brothers would say..."Can you SEE the light!" This may not be ideal for all of you out there but for those who want to go higher...jack it up and see for yourself.
contender	posted 08-01-2011 11:26 AM ET (US) Lot of water in the back of the boat...You need some kind of check valve drain plug...
Tohsgib	posted 08-01-2011 11:40 AM ET (US) No...I was beached so stern was down low.
Waterwonderland	posted 08-01-2011 03:24 PM ET (US) Nick, this should quell the critics that contend “you don't know jack”.
Buckda	posted 08-01-2011 08:17 PM ET (US) That's not seawater, that's melted ice from the keg cooler...
DeeVee	posted 08-01-2011 11:16 PM ET (US) Nick, I just installed a 5" setback jack plate on my Outrage 22 with a new to me 3.3 liter 200 Evinrude Etec. I can't remember how high I am above the keel bit it's up there. I want to say I am at 4" above the keel. I think I am really going to like this jack plate a lot. I have only taken the boat out once since installing the Etec. I was able to hit 45 mph at 5800 rpm with a 17 pitch, four blade Offshore propeller. I had quite a bit more throttle available. Doug Vazquez
Tohsgib	posted 08-02-2011 11:21 AM ET (US) It makes rinsing off the PTnT assembly much easier ;)
outragesteve	posted 08-02-2011 07:53 PM ET (US) DeepVee: You may remember me: I bought the Yamaha control from you...thanks! Question: What steering are you using on your setup with the bracket? I have Seastar (center) and I'm told with a fixed jack plate it will interfere with the steering cylinder. Of course, If I were to use an an adjustable bracket I could raise the engine to clear the original transom. Thanks!
Tohsgib	posted 08-03-2011 10:01 AM ET (US) Just the stock Teleflex steering. I do not see how hydraulic steering would be interfered with.
DeeVee	posted 08-04-2011 09:37 AM ET (US) My steering cylinder would hit the transom , except the outboard is raised high enough to clear it. I do have clearance issue with the bracket that I connect the kicker steering to. I used the adjustable tilt limiter switch to stop the tilt before it hits the transom. It still tilts high enough to use the trailer tilt support. Doug
Tohsgib	posted 08-05-2011 10:38 AM ET (US) With a jack plate your engine is higher and does not need to be tilted all the way up to clear the water. If I tilt mine all the way the skeg isliterally 6-8" above the water so I tilt it down a tad whuch also relieves some pressure on the tilt system.
zotcha	posted 08-07-2011 05:22 PM ET (US) And drains the lower unit, preventing freezing while slipped. Oh wait. I Slipped. zot.
DeeVee	posted 08-09-2011 06:35 PM ET (US) I finally remembered to check the relationship between the keel of my Outrage 22 and the anti-ventilation plate on my new to me 3.3 liter Etec 200. At the trim position which places the plate parallel with the keel, the plate is a full 2" above the keel. Doug Vazquez
Tom W Clark	posted 08-09-2011 07:29 PM ET (US) Doug -- With 5 inches of set back, you can raise your motor another inch.
RobertRibley	posted 08-09-2011 11:53 PM ET (US) Nick What year is your 13, And what prop are you running SS ? With the 40hp. Robert
wezie	posted 08-10-2011 09:32 AM ET (US) When I have had the chance, observing how quickly the water "rises" from under the stern when planing, has always surprised me. The set back of jack plates places the engine in water that is above the level of the bottom of the boat, allowing the engine to be raised even farther. Interference with steering when tilting, may be adjusted where you mount the lift on the transom and where you mount the engine on jack plate. Thanks for the pictures.
Tohsgib	posted 08-10-2011 12:54 PM ET (US) 13 is a 1981 with bottom paint and runs a 2004 Suzuki 40 mounted ALL the way up with a 11.75x17" Michigan polished SS Rapture detuned to about 15.5" She runs 38 with bimini up at 5800(redline). I think with bimini down I can hit 40. The Rapture is a VERY aggressive prop like the Stiletto so 15.5 is more like a 17+" SST or equiv. and why my speeds are where they are at.
Tohsgib	posted 08-10-2011 03:36 PM ET (US) Ran the same Rapture on my 1994 40hp 2 smoke on the same boat(before repitched) and she would do about 5400rpm WOT and 37.5 was my best. 40hp is 40hp but I think the extra cyl on the Suzuki makes it a bit more powerfull than the twin.