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ContinuousWave Whaler Moderated Discussion Areas ContinuousWave: Whaler Performance Trip Planning with Limited Fuel
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Author | Topic: Trip Planning with Limited Fuel |
jimh |
posted 12-07-2012 05:53 PM ET (US)
An algorithm (explained below) is useful in the particular situation of making a passage with a limited amount of fuel available, as follows: --a passage of a particular distance (in D miles) is to be made; --the fuel available is limited (to G gallons); --there are two possible speeds available for travel during the passage; --there is a speed (S1), but at this speed the fuel burn (of F1 gallons-per-hour) would consume all the fuel available before reaching destination; --there is a speed (S2) with better fuel efficiency (F2), which can be used to conserve fuel; you could make the whole passage at this speed but we assume that S2 is a slower speed and we wish to minimize the total time to make the passage; and, --by combining the two speeds the passage can be made in the least time if we run as long as we can at S1 until we have just enough fuel left to continue at S2 to the destination. There are some situations where this method cannot be used. Let me state the obvious: --if the passage cannot be made entirely at the more efficient speed, there is no solution possible --if the passage can be made entirely at the less efficient speed (and assumed to be faster speed), there is no solution necessary The algorithm computes the amount of time (T1,T2) at each speed (S1,S2) that will satisfy the conditions above. The times and speeds do not have to be run in order or in continuous segments. You could mix them up, as long as the total time at each speed is correct. When using the algorithm you should hold in reserve some fuel. The algorithm uses all the fuel in its calculation. You must provide a reserve by entering less than the total amount of fuel you actually have. A ten percent reserve is the minimum I would hold back. Now I explain the algorithm's details: A boat has a fuel capacity of G (gallons) and wishes to make a passage of D (miles) in distance. The boat operates at two speeds. At S1 (mph) the boat goes a certain speed and burns fuel at a rate of F1 (gph). At S2 (mph) the boat goes a slower speed and burns fuel at a rate of F2 (gph), a more economical rate The total time to make the passage will consists of the time spent at S1 called T1 (hours) and the time spent at S2 called T2 (hours). We can then say that the total distance travelled will be (1) D = (S1*T1) + (S2*T2) and the total fuel burned will be (2) G = (F1*T1) + (F2*T2) Whatever fuel we don't burn at S1 will be burned at S2, so we can say (3) F2*T2 = G - (F1*T1) and the distance travelled at S2 is whatever we did not cover at the other speed, so we can say (4) S2*T2 = D -(S1*T1) The amount of time we can run at S2 is determined by how much fuel is left after running at S1 for time T1 at burn rate F1. We can then define T2 as (5) T2 = [G -(T1*F1)] / F2 Now we substitute the equivalence (5) for the variable T2 in equation (1) and solve for T1 (6) T1 = [ D - (S2*G/F2) ] / [ S1 - (S2*F1/F2)] Now we evaluate to find a solution for a particular set of conditions as follows D = 250 miles We find that we must run at S1 for 6.89-hours and at S2 for 13-hours CHECKS: 25-mph for 6.89-hours = 172-miles 9-gph for 6.89-hours = 62-gallons
S1 = 5.172-hours LEG ONE was 5.172-hours at 25-mph and 9-gph for 129.31-miles and 46.55.16-gallons CHECK: 129.31 + 170.69 = 300-miles |
ebwalk |
posted 12-07-2012 08:10 PM ET (US)
Jim--Really nice algebra problem and solution! [In assignment of values, F2 was mislabeled as F1--fixed]. Would you carry this on board or derive it again if you need it? |
dfmcintyre |
posted 12-07-2012 09:35 PM ET (US)
Jim--Uh, can I infer that your leaning towards going back to a sailboat, eh? More time on your hands? Maybe tacking towards a different vessel is a better term... Regards - Don |
jimh |
posted 12-08-2012 07:03 AM ET (US)
This is not for sailboat travel. It is for making a long passage in my boat with a limited amount of fuel. We were looking at some legs of a trip around Lake Superior. There are some legs where the distance between fuel docks will be greater than the range of my boat at a planing speed. That was the motivation. The algorithm shows how to blend two speeds to get the most range in the least time. |
jimh |
posted 12-08-2012 09:01 AM ET (US)
Since Don mentioned sailing, we can approach this problem from a different tack: Here is another method to solve the problem of mixing two rates of fuel burn. We have a distance of D (miles) to cover with only G (gallons) of fuel available. Therefore we must make good a fuel economy of D/G miles per gallon for the passage. We have two speeds available. At S1 (mph) we get M1 (mpg) which is not enough to make the passage, but at S2 (mph) we get a better fuel economy of M2 (mpg) which is more than enough to make the passage. We want to blend these rates to get an average of D/G (mpg) so we can make the passage on our limited fuel. We need to know how much time at each speed we can run. The average fuel economy of the trip will be a blend of the two economies as follows: (1) D/G = a*M1 + b*M2, where a,b are coefficients such that a + b = 1 The coefficients tell us the weighting of each fuel economy to be used in the averaging. We will know D, G, M1 and M2, so we can solve for a and b. With some algebra, we find (2) a = [(D/G)-M2] / (M1-M2) a = 0.8275 First we check to see if this will blend to our target fuel economy: D/G = (0.8275 * 2.77) + (0.1725 * 6) Now we know the weighting coefficients, but this also tells us how much fuel we have to burn at each speed. (This may not be obvious but it is true. See my earlier article, hyperlink at bottom of this article) At S1 we need to burn 75 * 0.8275 = 62.0635-gallons From this we can figure the times and distances: To burn 62.0635-gallons at 9-gph needs 6.896-hours covering 172.4-miles For more on weighting factors for averaging fuel economy see my article in the REFERENCE section: Average Fuel Mileage: Proper Weighting Factors |
K Albus |
posted 12-08-2012 12:42 PM ET (US)
Now you need to figure out how many hours of no-wake cruising can eliminate for each 5-gallon jerry can of fuel you bring. |
jimh |
posted 12-08-2012 01:01 PM ET (US)
Kevin--By very coarse estimate, we are cruising at 25-MPH and 9-GPH, so if we could carry two 5-gallon Jerry cans of gasoline, we could run one more hour at 25-MPH. This would save 25-miles from being run at 6-MPH, or about 4-hours. To get the precise figure just rework with the value G=85-gallons. |
jimh |
posted 12-08-2012 02:04 PM ET (US)
Re the fuel allowed, I was already figuring on one 5-gallon Jerry can. My tank is 77-gallons rated, but I always figure it to be 70-gallons usable, as you can never be sure exactly how full the tank is when you are topped off or exactly how much you can get out before the pick-up hose starts to suck air. To those 70-gallons I added the 5-gallon on-deck Jerry can, giving me a practical fuel available of 75-gallons. Maybe I should carry two Jerry cans. In actually running a passage this way, you would get on plane and do your best to maximize fuel economy. The fuel remaining (FR) would be closely monitored along with the distance to go (DTG). At any moment the needed fuel economy to complete the passage will be DTG/FR. The moment DTG/FR began to approach your best fuel economy at the lower speed, you should get off plane and transition to the more fuel efficient speed. If you didn't you would run out of fuel before reaching destination. I can get about 10-MPG if I go very slowly, about 4-MPH, but then the passage will take a long time to complete. I picked my 6-MPH and 6-MPG as about the most reasonable low speed with decent fuel economy. |
Buckda |
posted 12-10-2012 02:56 PM ET (US)
What kind of drag do you assign to certain sea conditions? You must account for a speed adjustments for comfort of the passengers, and the resultant new fuel consumption rate, and, you must also calculate the "true" distance traveled, Including the up and down distance as well as linear distance. In short, how much "longer" does a string have to be to get from point A to point B with waves in it? Perhaps this should be included as a secondary algorithm. |
jimh |
posted 12-11-2012 01:18 AM ET (US)
It is not necessary to consider sea or wind in the algorithm. You input the speed and fuel burn rates, and these must reflect the conditions in which you will make the passage. |
contender |
posted 12-12-2012 10:00 PM ET (US)
Your calculations would work in a perfect world, and if everything worked in your favor. I, myself, would just carry the extra fuel. |
jimh |
posted 12-12-2012 11:04 PM ET (US)
The manner in which you propose that extra fuel ought to be carried has me confused. Let me explain the confusion: It was quite explicitly mentioned that the algorithm does not allow for any reserve. The algorithm burns 100-percent of the fuel you input as being available. It was also explicitly mentioned that a reserve allowance should be provided when making a passage using the speeds and rates calculated by the algorithm. Apparently you agree with my recommendation, but the way in which you have replied makes me think you are suggesting something that I have not already recommended. Perhaps you need to re-read the article to find my clear recommendations about the fuel necessary. It is prudent to carry extra fuel in any operation of a boat (or other transportation device) that runs of fuel. Usually an allowance of one-third fuel reserve is often suggested. I don't think experienced boaters who attempt passage of more than 200 miles between fuel docks will have much confusion about fuel reserves. There is a further problem with the recommendation as made--we are to "just carry the extra fuel." The problem is how much extra fuel? Until one knows how much fuel is likely to be used, one cannot figure how much reserve is needed. The recommendation that one ought to "carry the extra fuel" has no quantitative realm. You must first know how much fuel is likely to be needed in order to then calculate how much extra to carry. To recommend to "carry the extra fuel" has no value until one know how much fuel will be needed to make a passage with the planned speeds and fuel flow rates. The algorithm provides that data. It is then up to the individual mariner to make an allowance for fuel reserve. |
contender |
posted 12-13-2012 06:31 PM ET (US)
Jim you are correct, but I do not get that exact when it comes to something like this, I would be more worried about the weather and if I can go or not (but I guess that is why we are living in two different parts of the country) my big boat gets about 2 miles to the gallon, I hold 200 gallons, I top off the tank and know I'm go for a good 325 miles, at any speed and any weather, anything after that is gravy. |
jimh |
posted 12-14-2012 12:02 AM ET (US)
In recommending to "just carry the extra fuel" there is the notion that there is no upper bound on how much fuel can be carried. That is not the case. There is some sort of realistic limit to how much fuel can be carried. In the case of my boat the limit is a combination of the 77-gallons (or more like 70-gallons useable) fuel in the main tank and perhaps some added on-deck fuel in the form of five-gallon jerry cans. I can't really carry 20 five-gallons jerry cans. I'd rather not carry more than a couple, if I can avoid it. Please note the first sentence in this thread mentions that the topic under discussion involves "a limited amount of fuel available." The recommendation to "just carry the extra fuel" is not consistent with the fundamental concept; there is a limit on the fuel available. In the passage that was used in the example, the distance is easily covered with the available fuel in just the main tank. We have 70-gallons and can expect 6-MPH. This gives a range of 420-miles. Derating by holding one-third in reserve still gives us 277-mile range. The passage is only 250-miles. The purpose of the algorithm--as stated at least twice in the initial article--is to explore how to blend a faster speed with a slower speed in order to reduce the time of the passage as much as possible within the constraint of a fixed amount of fuel to be burned. This has nothing at all to do with the notion that we must provide an allowance for things to go wrong. We always have to provide an allowance for things to go wrong or to go less than perfectly. But before we can allocate an allowance for fuel needed we need to know just now much fuel we need if things go right. That is basis from which we calculate an allowance. Exactly how much to allow for a reserve is up to the individual vessel master, the nature of the passage, and the circumstances under which it is to be made. I don't know how you put that into an algorithm. Regarding the recommendation to be "more worried about the weather." There is no input or variable in the algorithm for weather. The algorithm tries to find the fastest way to cover a distance with a limited amount of fuel. Concern for the weather is a constant and ineluctable element in operation of a vessel. I do not think that it is necessary to build into my algorithm any consideration for the weather. In order to introduce a variable into an algorithm and employ it in a calculation there is the presumption that there is some quantitative value that can be employed. If you can develop an algorithm for introducing weather into the calculation, please let me know. Weather is a rather broad term, and I don't see how it could be reduced to a single variable in an algorithm that is limited to calculating the specific situation we are discussing here. |
macfam |
posted 12-14-2012 07:46 AM ET (US)
Left the dock without my calculator. Then ran out of fuel. I won't do that again. I feel like such a fool. Do your algebra before you take your trip |
jimh |
posted 12-14-2012 11:15 AM ET (US)
Very good! The algorithm does not attempt to proscribe how to be a good boater. It just shows how to blend two speeds and their fuel burn. That's all it does. As noted, it is just algebra, not life science. |
David Pendleton |
posted 12-17-2012 06:20 PM ET (US)
quote: I'll drive 22 hours to spend a day in Detroit, but I don't think I could handle this... |
jimh |
posted 12-17-2012 09:14 PM ET (US)
Yeah, those three or four extra jerry cans of gasoline are looking more attractive all the time. |
6992WHALER |
posted 12-17-2012 09:19 PM ET (US)
The solution is a big trawler with a whaler for a dingy. |
David Pendleton |
posted 12-17-2012 10:44 PM ET (US)
There is another alternative: a fuel bladder. The smallest I have seen are 25 gallons, but they take up quite a bit of room when full, something like 4'x4'x.5'. When they are empty, they can be rolled or folded then stowed, which is an advantage over jerry cans. Unfortunately, a few that I looked at on the web were around $500.00. They pop up on THT from time to time for much less. I almost bought one to use in the bed of my truck but decided that was a bit too risky. |
Buckda |
posted 12-18-2012 11:14 AM ET (US)
There is a website for a company that will custom make a fuel bladder to your die mentions. I don't have the link handy, but will look for it tonight. I investigated this briefly when considering a big trip to very remote Waters. Until then, I consider this calculator an interesting model for figuring out just where your true boundaries and limitations lie. This will be useful on a trip like the north shore of Lake superior, or even Lake Nipigon. |
jimh |
posted 12-20-2012 09:27 AM ET (US)
In making some comparisons with Kevin this season on the fuel consumption of our boats, I found an interesting distinction. Kevin's big four-cycle engine runs more efficiently on plane than does my big two-cycle engine. Kevin's boat and engine have a best fuel economy on plane of about 3-MPG if things are just right, and my boat and motor peak out lower, perhaps 2.8-MPH at optimum. At displacement speeds there is a bigger difference. Kevin's boat and motor get about 4-MPG and my boat and motor get at least 6-MPG, and if going a bit slower can get even 10-MPG. When we ran together for about 300-miles on a cruise, we ended up using just about the same amount of fuel. After many trips with my boat and motor, I have found that I can save fuel by moving at displacement speed for some portion of a long leg. On several of our trips we have tried going along at displacement speed for an hour or two. When moving at displacement speed we can typically go along at 6-MPH. If you are in a scenic area, it is not a big problem to just relax and enjoy the scenery. We call this the Whaler-as-trawler mode of travel. What becomes tedious is having to steer for hours while moving at 6-MPH. If our boat had an auto-pilot it would be much more relaxing. We'd let the auto-pilot steer on some of these legs. The problem with the auto-pilot is the cost of installing one. It would be several thousand dollars for me to set up an auto-pilot. Making a passage at displacement speed could be tolerable if the sea were calm. If the sea is not calm, the added time to make the passage at displacement speed might be intolerable. To spend two or three extra hours underway in calm conditions enjoying the scenery is one thing, but to endure two or three hours additional time in rough conditions is quite another matter. |
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