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Ridge Runner posted 04-28-2013 09:35 AM ET (US)
Is anyone using the Amsoil HP Marine Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil in an E-TEC at the XD100 lean setting? The Amsoil website says:
"Excellent for Evinrude® E-TEC™ factory-lean setting (replaces Evinrude XD100™ 2-Cycle Oil). Helps prevent deposits, protects against wear, has low smoke, protects against rust and has low aquatic toxicity. Superior performance as an injection oil or at 50:1 pre-mix."
Amsoil also published this report a few years ago: http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g2968.pdf
XD100 is about $40.00 a gallon locally, Amsoil HP is $26.00 (after preferred customer 25% discount).
I was more wondering if anyone is using it than anything.

Jefecinco posted 04-28-2013 10:23 AM ET (US)
Someone is probably using it. I can't imagine why. Maybe an Amsoil employee or just some brave soul who can afford a new power head.
Butch
2manyboats posted 04-28-2013 10:45 AM ET (US)
We have 3 E-TECs and I would not do it. We have all of ours set for XD-50, so we can use off brand in a pinch.
We buy our oil bulk and the last we bought was under $20 per gallon. But we use about 40 gals per year.
Tom W Clark posted 04-28-2013 11:06 AM ET (US)
Really? $14 in savings? Do you even use a gallon of oil in a season?
pcrussell50 posted 04-28-2013 01:31 PM ET (US)
Notwithstanding Tom's comment above, which I would also abide by as well with the lack of anything else more concrete, Amsoil oils have a generally good reputation in the gearhead community, although unless you get the "dealer's price", they are not particularly bargain priced, so many folks are just as happy to buy other brands if Amsoil is no cheaper.
One thing you could try is to send a sample of XD-100 and a sample of Amsoil off to Blackstone Labs and have them analyze the additive package. They will provide a hand written (typed) report for not much money. That was how I learned that WalMart car motor oil was as good as any of the leading brands, and that the lab techs use it themselves. They determined that fact by analyzing the wear components in used car motor oil and found no difference.
Anyhow, you can't analyze "used" 2-stroke oil, for wear components, because it's been burned, but they can analyze them for their additive packages before they are used, and that is what would be interesting, Amsoil versus XD-100.
-Peter
Ridge Runner posted 04-29-2013 07:05 AM ET (US)
Peter, I agree with Tom also. I am not about to use another brand of oil in my $12k E-TEC especially with it still being under warranty.
But, I did find it intriguing that Amsoil has specially addressed XD100 in the lean burn setting. I do not know of any other third party oil manufacture or reformulator that has marketed against BPR’s XD100.
Amsoil also states: “AMSOIL fully supports the use of HP Marine as a replacement for Evinrude XD100 in Evinrude E-TEC engines, and warrants its use according to the AMSOIL Limited Liability Warranty (G1363).”
It seems Amsoil has also marketed against BPR’s oil for Ski-Doo Rotax E-TEC engines; they have published two reports similar to the E-TEC outboard report. All of the other reports seem to be generic; none go after another’s OEM oil products, like Mercury DFI or Yamaha 4 cycle oil – which I would think would be a larger market.

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Author	Topic: Amsoil HP oil in an E-TEC
Ridge Runner	posted 04-28-2013 09:35 AM ET (US) Is anyone using the Amsoil HP Marine Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil in an E-TEC at the XD100 lean setting? The Amsoil website says: "Excellent for Evinrude® E-TEC™ factory-lean setting (replaces Evinrude XD100™ 2-Cycle Oil). Helps prevent deposits, protects against wear, has low smoke, protects against rust and has low aquatic toxicity. Superior performance as an injection oil or at 50:1 pre-mix." Amsoil also published this report a few years ago: http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g2968.pdf XD100 is about $40.00 a gallon locally, Amsoil HP is $26.00 (after preferred customer 25% discount). I was more wondering if anyone is using it than anything.
Jefecinco	posted 04-28-2013 10:23 AM ET (US) Someone is probably using it. I can't imagine why. Maybe an Amsoil employee or just some brave soul who can afford a new power head. Butch
2manyboats	posted 04-28-2013 10:45 AM ET (US) We have 3 E-TECs and I would not do it. We have all of ours set for XD-50, so we can use off brand in a pinch. We buy our oil bulk and the last we bought was under $20 per gallon. But we use about 40 gals per year.
Tom W Clark	posted 04-28-2013 11:06 AM ET (US) Really? $14 in savings? Do you even use a gallon of oil in a season?
pcrussell50	posted 04-28-2013 01:31 PM ET (US) Notwithstanding Tom's comment above, which I would also abide by as well with the lack of anything else more concrete, Amsoil oils have a generally good reputation in the gearhead community, although unless you get the "dealer's price", they are not particularly bargain priced, so many folks are just as happy to buy other brands if Amsoil is no cheaper. One thing you could try is to send a sample of XD-100 and a sample of Amsoil off to Blackstone Labs and have them analyze the additive package. They will provide a hand written (typed) report for not much money. That was how I learned that WalMart car motor oil was as good as any of the leading brands, and that the lab techs use it themselves. They determined that fact by analyzing the wear components in used car motor oil and found no difference. Anyhow, you can't analyze "used" 2-stroke oil, for wear components, because it's been burned, but they can analyze them for their additive packages before they are used, and that is what would be interesting, Amsoil versus XD-100. -Peter
Ridge Runner	posted 04-29-2013 07:05 AM ET (US) Peter, I agree with Tom also. I am not about to use another brand of oil in my $12k E-TEC especially with it still being under warranty. But, I did find it intriguing that Amsoil has specially addressed XD100 in the lean burn setting. I do not know of any other third party oil manufacture or reformulator that has marketed against BPR’s XD100. Amsoil also states: “AMSOIL fully supports the use of HP Marine as a replacement for Evinrude XD100 in Evinrude E-TEC engines, and warrants its use according to the AMSOIL Limited Liability Warranty (G1363).” It seems Amsoil has also marketed against BPR’s oil for Ski-Doo Rotax E-TEC engines; they have published two reports similar to the E-TEC outboard report. All of the other reports seem to be generic; none go after another’s OEM oil products, like Mercury DFI or Yamaha 4 cycle oil – which I would think would be a larger market.