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tedious posted 06-10-2015 12:19 PM ET (US)
I am given to understand that the Stiletto Advantage 1 is "the same" as a specific, Yamaha-branded propeller. I think that's the Performance 3. However, the Yamaha propellers come in even numbered pitches, and the Stiletto propellers come in odd pitches. Are they really the same pitches, with the Yamaha-labeled ones just labeled differently? Or to put it another way, is the Stiletto 13.25 x 15 exactly the same chunk of metal, except for the brand name, as the Yamaha Performance 3 13.25 x 14?
I'm hoping that Tom will jump in on this, but other thoughts are welcome, too. Thanks.

Tom W Clark posted 06-10-2015 01:56 PM ET (US)
No, they are what they are.
If the 15" Stiletto Advantage is too much pitch, you can use the 14" Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade or Turbo 1 instead to increase your RPM
tedious posted 06-10-2015 02:50 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tom - with Stiletto being done, just wanted to make sure I understood the parameters.
Tim
tedious posted 06-10-2015 03:52 PM ET (US)
Tom, after looking, the Turbo seems to be offered in the odd pitches as well - are you aware that it can be had in evens?
That would be nice, because it's cheaper than the Yamaha version by a good chunk.
Tim
Tom W Clark posted 06-10-2015 04:56 PM ET (US)
Through Stiletto will be gone, you can all the same propeller models under the Turbo brand....you will just pay a lot more.
The Stiletto Advantage is the same propeller as the Turbo 1. It is offered in odd pitches only. If you want an even pitch you buy the Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade...and pay even more
tedious posted 06-10-2015 08:45 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tom - I just thought your original response implied the Turbo was available in a 14-pitch, and I was hopeful to save a couple of bucks. Thanks for the clarification.
Tim
Tom W Clark posted 06-10-2015 09:02 PM ET (US)
Ah. I see the source of the confusion. I mangled the construction of that sentence. It should have read:
If the 15" Stiletto Advantage or Turbo 1 is too much pitch, you can use the 14" Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade instead to increase your RPM
tedious posted 06-11-2015 07:28 PM ET (US)
Mangled sentence construction? Off with your head!
On a related subject, I noted that Yamaha sells a Talon SS prop, also in even pitches. Does that correspond to another of the PPI offerings?
Tim
Tom W Clark posted 06-12-2015 10:33 AM ET (US)
The Talon is a new model. It is made in Japan, not by PPI.
I have not tried one yet so I do not know how its pitch compares but I see its chief advantage as the SDS hub
tedious posted 06-12-2015 11:29 AM ET (US)
Yes, I saw that it had the SDS, and I agree it's a real positive. I was trying to get a decent pic to compare blade area, to see whether the Talon was comparable to the Advantage or a bit smaller. They claim it is "low slip" which I think would mostly correspond to high blade area and a lot of cup.
Tim
tedious posted 06-12-2015 11:29 AM ET (US)
Yes, I saw that it had the SDS, and I agree it's a real positive. I was trying to get a decent pic to compare blade area, to see whether the Talon was comparable to the Advantage or a bit smaller. They claim it is "low slip" which I think would mostly correspond to high blade area and a lot of cup.
Tim

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Author	Topic: Stiletto and Yamaha Propeller Pitch
tedious	posted 06-10-2015 12:19 PM ET (US) I am given to understand that the Stiletto Advantage 1 is "the same" as a specific, Yamaha-branded propeller. I think that's the Performance 3. However, the Yamaha propellers come in even numbered pitches, and the Stiletto propellers come in odd pitches. Are they really the same pitches, with the Yamaha-labeled ones just labeled differently? Or to put it another way, is the Stiletto 13.25 x 15 exactly the same chunk of metal, except for the brand name, as the Yamaha Performance 3 13.25 x 14? I'm hoping that Tom will jump in on this, but other thoughts are welcome, too. Thanks.
Tom W Clark	posted 06-10-2015 01:56 PM ET (US) No, they are what they are. If the 15" Stiletto Advantage is too much pitch, you can use the 14" Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade or Turbo 1 instead to increase your RPM
tedious	posted 06-10-2015 02:50 PM ET (US) Thanks Tom - with Stiletto being done, just wanted to make sure I understood the parameters. Tim
tedious	posted 06-10-2015 03:52 PM ET (US) Tom, after looking, the Turbo seems to be offered in the odd pitches as well - are you aware that it can be had in evens? That would be nice, because it's cheaper than the Yamaha version by a good chunk. Tim
Tom W Clark	posted 06-10-2015 04:56 PM ET (US) Through Stiletto will be gone, you can all the same propeller models under the Turbo brand....you will just pay a lot more. The Stiletto Advantage is the same propeller as the Turbo 1. It is offered in odd pitches only. If you want an even pitch you buy the Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade...and pay even more
tedious	posted 06-10-2015 08:45 PM ET (US) Thanks Tom - I just thought your original response implied the Turbo was available in a 14-pitch, and I was hopeful to save a couple of bucks. Thanks for the clarification. Tim
Tom W Clark	posted 06-10-2015 09:02 PM ET (US) Ah. I see the source of the confusion. I mangled the construction of that sentence. It should have read: If the 15" Stiletto Advantage or Turbo 1 is too much pitch, you can use the 14" Yamaha Performance Series 3-Blade instead to increase your RPM
tedious	posted 06-11-2015 07:28 PM ET (US) Mangled sentence construction? Off with your head! On a related subject, I noted that Yamaha sells a Talon SS prop, also in even pitches. Does that correspond to another of the PPI offerings? Tim
Tom W Clark	posted 06-12-2015 10:33 AM ET (US) The Talon is a new model. It is made in Japan, not by PPI. I have not tried one yet so I do not know how its pitch compares but I see its chief advantage as the SDS hub
tedious	posted 06-12-2015 11:29 AM ET (US) Yes, I saw that it had the SDS, and I agree it's a real positive. I was trying to get a decent pic to compare blade area, to see whether the Talon was comparable to the Advantage or a bit smaller. They claim it is "low slip" which I think would mostly correspond to high blade area and a lot of cup. Tim
tedious	posted 06-12-2015 11:29 AM ET (US) Yes, I saw that it had the SDS, and I agree it's a real positive. I was trying to get a decent pic to compare blade area, to see whether the Talon was comparable to the Advantage or a bit smaller. They claim it is "low slip" which I think would mostly correspond to high blade area and a lot of cup. Tim