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glen e posted 04-08-2006 10:34 AM ET (US)   Profile for glen e   Send Email to glen e  
I have performed [a GARMIN software] update and several things are different. A few I see right away:

--support for Automatic Identification System or AIS

--easier software update tab

--"Hi speed NEMA" as an output option (does nothing on my unit, so far)

--format colors for the sonar

--radar looks a bit more crisp in the target outlines

--but, most of all, a big problem: WHAT is the THE LAND MASS NOW IN BLACK FOR? HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT?

I suggest you don't [perform the same GARMIN software update on your device] until we find out their thinking on this. Land masses are unreadable, and, yes. the tab for map in sun/dark is gone. Why? Maybe to sell G2 charts?

jimh posted 04-09-2006 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
There is always a general expectation that a software or firmware update will make improvements, instead of removing features.

If GARMIN is now providing support for AIS in their display, can a Garmin-brand of AIS receiver be far behind?

glen e posted 04-09-2006 10:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
agreed - also the big chaNge is NOAA weather in text comes in for your area..

I have been told that the black land mass is a glitch in the download and the system must be re-set using a secret button combo - will post more as I get this from garmin tech tomorrow

It amazes me that they let out something like this without seeing it...don't some of the programmers try the download before they send it out? It's not just a color choice I don't agree with, all features on land are GONE....

Moe posted 04-09-2006 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
I like it that Garmin documents changes in firmware, for example for the 3XXX here:

http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=589

What I find interesting is that there's no mention here of AIS or some of the other updates glen e mentions.

--
Moe

glen e posted 04-09-2006 01:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
got it!

the answer is hold down the Power and Quit buttons upon start up - will ask you if you want to erase everything - say yes and it's fixed - land mass is now a readable brown and tan (maybe green) ..

tombro posted 04-10-2006 08:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
Thanks, Moe for that info. I looked to see what the firmware updates for my unit were.
Chuck Tribolet posted 04-10-2006 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Stuff like the black land mass is probably caused by having
some particular combination of options set before the download,
or being at some particular prior firmware level. You can't
test ALL the combinations of stuff in the software biz.

Be sure to backup your waypoints and routes and tracks before
doing firmware upgrades. Be sure to do it periodically anyway.
For the Garmin units, Garmin MapSource does a good job.


Chuck

glen e posted 04-10-2006 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Chuck - I disagree - everyone that has written me (10 people)- no matter what the settings... that uses the download from the website is getting the black land mass.. Garmin admits they have a problem with this answer - it was just a sloppy release in my opin...

Thank you for contacting Garmin Product Support.

We are working on this issue currently so that is doesn't happen in the future. To fix the issue, you will need to do a reset of the unit. First you will want to backup any waypoints that you have on the unit to a chip.
Then perform the reset. This is done with the unit turned off, then holding the Quit button and Power button for about 5 seconds until the message comes up that says, "Are you sure you want to erase all user data". When you
answer Yes to this, the unit will reset and should be back to the colors that you are expecting.

Please let me know if I can help in any further way, and thanks for choosing
Garmin.

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-10-2006 06:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Glen e: What model GPS? What version firmware?


Chuck

glen e posted 04-10-2006 09:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
all 3XXX series upgrade is to 4.10 - my software is updates via marine uupdater and every update is notified to me via email...my specific units to upgrade:
are:
3010c
3305C
GSD20
GDL20
4Kw radar

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-10-2006 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
This hasn't made sci.geo.satellite-nav or rec.boats.electronics,
so I suspect it's not EVERYBODY who's having the problem.
And, a month and a half after it came out, Garmin still has
the download on their website.


Chuck

glen e posted 04-11-2006 04:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
ok chuck, maybe not everyone - just the people that I have talked to - 100% of them. And another thing, because they hgave written one massive file (15mb) file that includes every system module that can cannect with a 3xxx product, The file does not fit on a 16mb data card and you are forced to buy a 32 mb card. That's why thisis quiet so far, most people don't have the larger card. So even if you don't own radar or weather, you have to download the upgrade for it. A small peice of info stuck at the bottom of the instructions....

I am not bashing Garmin, I have owned 4 of their chartplotters and have the entire network system. But this is just bad business for the sale of convienece to the programmers, IMO.

Riptide23WA posted 04-11-2006 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riptide23WA  Send Email to Riptide23WA     
Glen, how do you like your setup? I am really wanting to go with a Garmin system, as I'm a long-time Garmin user, but it just seems that the Raymarine system edges out the Garmin, especially in the radar dept. Plus, I wish Garmin offered a 12" screen option...

Your thoughts?


Pat

jimh posted 04-11-2006 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please start a new discussion if you want to solicit reviews of a particular GARMIN device. This discussion is focused on a problem with a firmware update. Thanks.
Chuck Tribolet posted 04-13-2006 11:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
quote:
can a Garmin-brand of AIS receiver be far behind?

You don't want a separate AIS receiver, you want AIS built
into your VHF. Then you only need one antenna, and a lot
of the receiver cost is shared (connectors, box, etc.)


Chuck

jimh posted 04-13-2006 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Chuck--Adding an AIS dedicated receiver to a VHF Marine Radio transceiver may be difficult. Most modern VHF Marine Radio Service transceivers already have one dedicated receiver listening to the Digital Selective Calling channel. If they have to monitor the AIS channel, too, that is a second dedicated receiver.

We should move this discussion to a separate thread. The GARMIN chart plotter software update will apparently provide for a method to display the AIS data. But you will currently have to purchase a separate AIS receiver to obtain that data.

glen e posted 04-12-2006 05:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
It looks as if some discussions by many people with Garmin tech support has led GARMIN to realize the update they put out last week "was built on a friday", as they say in the car business. The new update is Version 4.2 and solves the black mass problem and a few others. It fits on a 16-Mb card and is for 3010/3005/3006 units. Kudos to Garmin for a quick turnaround.
jimh posted 04-14-2006 12:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Moved Glen's notice of the follow-on update to this discussion.]
Chuck Tribolet posted 04-14-2006 09:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
I started a thread for AIS dicussion.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000818.html


Chuck

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