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bluewaterpirate posted 11-14-2006 10:18 AM ET (US)
http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/marine/111306b.html
Interesting ..... there whould be some good closeout prices come 2007.
Tom
bluewaterpirate posted 11-14-2006 10:20 AM ET (US)
Rumor has it these units are both NMEA 0183 & 2000 capable.
Chuck Tribolet posted 11-14-2006 03:20 PM ET (US)
The 4x12 units are XGA (1024x768) resolution. Twice the
pixels. I've been surprised that the GPS world hasn't made
that jump earlier.

Chuck
WT posted 11-14-2006 03:33 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the heads-up.
It figures that they would come out with something new.
I just bought the Garmin 478 and the Garmin NUVI 360. :-(
Warren
swist posted 11-14-2006 04:04 PM ET (US)
I learned a long time ago with electronics to buy what you need when you need it. There will always be something with more and better functionality coming out within a year AT MOST. Some consumer electronics seem to be on an even shorter obsolesence cycle (LCD TV's, e.g.)
kamie posted 11-14-2006 08:21 PM ET (US)
I agree with buying what you need and not waiting, it is frustrating though when you buy and something else dies before you get to use the new toy.
editorpmm posted 11-17-2006 03:44 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the Garmin info, which may come in handy. I just ordered a new 190 Outrage.
Does anyone know if the 12-inch chart plotter will fit that console, or is it too big for the boat's center console?
swist posted 11-18-2006 08:36 AM ET (US)
Unless I'm reading it wrong (the specs on these new items are not very detailed yet), it looks like the low end 400 series all come with an integrated fish finders. I wish there were an option not to get the fish finder and save some money. Some of us may already have sonar gear we like (or at the least, don't want to go through another transducer installation).
Backlash posted 11-19-2006 10:36 AM ET (US)
editorpmm,
From looking at the center console photo of the 190 Outrage on the Boston Whaler site it appears that the electronics mounting area will accommodate just about any size chartplotter desired. I would definitely get the exact dimensions of the desired chartplotter as well as checking what is behind the mounting area (if anything) in the console.
Steve
jimh posted 11-19-2006 01:01 PM ET (US)
While there has been an amazing increase in the power of electronic devices like GPS receivers and chart plotters, while the same time an equally amazing decrease in their prices, one thing has remained constant:
The one you really want costs $4,000.
ConB posted 11-19-2006 02:05 PM ET (US)
Who's going to be the first to go to the new Garmin store in Chicago? Buckda?
Riptide23WA posted 11-19-2006 09:49 PM ET (US)
Bill P, is that you as editorpmm? What happened... "Growler" a little too slow for you?
As a dedicated reader of PMM since 1997, let me be the first to welcome you aboard CW, and good luck with that Outrage...
Spill the beans in an editorial how you got here.
Pat
swist posted 11-20-2006 07:31 AM ET (US)
"The one you really want costs $4,000."
That's because the one you really want has a big screen. The functionality of all the units in the line is comparable - the big factor driving price is screen size (same deal as LCD TVs).
And after trying to peer at the tiny screen on my Garmin 276, I am saving my nickels for the biggest screen GPS that the boat will accomodate. As one reviewer said, a 3" screen on a chartplotter is like trying to look at a map through a keyhole.
HAPPYJIM posted 11-20-2006 08:29 AM ET (US)
I haven't bought into the "big screen" option, yet. I think my handheld Garmin 45 is more than adequate. I still rely on a paper chart for navigation and use the GPS to make sure I really am where I am. I also like that I can take my handheld on any boat that I fish on(all my personal waypoints are with me). I'll probably wait until they come out with a heads up display before I set aside my old handheld.
Chuck Tribolet posted 11-20-2006 09:51 AM ET (US)
The big screen doesn't cost $4000, not when there are laptops
with bigger screens (and a hard drive, CD/DVD ROM, and a real keyboard) for less than $1000.

Chuck
jimh posted 11-26-2006 01:31 AM ET (US)
Large high-resolution LCD displays which can be viewed in sunlight are very expensive. Most laptop computer displays are not easily seen in direct sunlight. Most Dell laptop computer displays are not easily seen even in subdued indoor lighting, and would probably be useless on a boat in direct sunlight.
According to the information in the Garmin press release, "all 4000 series units are NMEA 2000 compliant." This is good news. Garmin joins the many other electronic manufacturers in embracing the new NMEA-2000 protocol.
It was curious that they chose to make this big announcement at the European trade show. They apparently kept quiet about it at the Florida show a few weeks earlier.
WT posted 11-26-2006 12:50 PM ET (US)
Garmin can't deliver lower end units until 1st quarter 2007. The higher end units won't be available until the 2nd quarter 2007.
I'm kind of surprised that Garmin announced so soon. Now Garmin will have to discount their current stock right before the holidays. Then there will be those buyers that won't buy Garmin until the new products are out.
Warren

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Author	Topic: Garmin Announces New Chart Plotters and SONARs for 2007
bluewaterpirate	posted 11-14-2006 10:18 AM ET (US) http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/marine/111306b.html Interesting ..... there whould be some good closeout prices come 2007. Tom
bluewaterpirate	posted 11-14-2006 10:20 AM ET (US) Rumor has it these units are both NMEA 0183 & 2000 capable.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 11-14-2006 03:20 PM ET (US) The 4x12 units are XGA (1024x768) resolution. Twice the pixels. I've been surprised that the GPS world hasn't made that jump earlier. Chuck
WT	posted 11-14-2006 03:33 PM ET (US) Thanks for the heads-up. It figures that they would come out with something new. I just bought the Garmin 478 and the Garmin NUVI 360. :-( Warren
swist	posted 11-14-2006 04:04 PM ET (US) I learned a long time ago with electronics to buy what you need when you need it. There will always be something with more and better functionality coming out within a year AT MOST. Some consumer electronics seem to be on an even shorter obsolesence cycle (LCD TV's, e.g.)
kamie	posted 11-14-2006 08:21 PM ET (US) I agree with buying what you need and not waiting, it is frustrating though when you buy and something else dies before you get to use the new toy.
editorpmm	posted 11-17-2006 03:44 PM ET (US) Thanks for the Garmin info, which may come in handy. I just ordered a new 190 Outrage. Does anyone know if the 12-inch chart plotter will fit that console, or is it too big for the boat's center console?
swist	posted 11-18-2006 08:36 AM ET (US) Unless I'm reading it wrong (the specs on these new items are not very detailed yet), it looks like the low end 400 series all come with an integrated fish finders. I wish there were an option not to get the fish finder and save some money. Some of us may already have sonar gear we like (or at the least, don't want to go through another transducer installation).
Backlash	posted 11-19-2006 10:36 AM ET (US) editorpmm, From looking at the center console photo of the 190 Outrage on the Boston Whaler site it appears that the electronics mounting area will accommodate just about any size chartplotter desired. I would definitely get the exact dimensions of the desired chartplotter as well as checking what is behind the mounting area (if anything) in the console. Steve
jimh	posted 11-19-2006 01:01 PM ET (US) While there has been an amazing increase in the power of electronic devices like GPS receivers and chart plotters, while the same time an equally amazing decrease in their prices, one thing has remained constant: The one you really want costs $4,000.
ConB	posted 11-19-2006 02:05 PM ET (US) Who's going to be the first to go to the new Garmin store in Chicago? Buckda?
Riptide23WA	posted 11-19-2006 09:49 PM ET (US) Bill P, is that you as editorpmm? What happened... "Growler" a little too slow for you? As a dedicated reader of PMM since 1997, let me be the first to welcome you aboard CW, and good luck with that Outrage... Spill the beans in an editorial how you got here. Pat
swist	posted 11-20-2006 07:31 AM ET (US) "The one you really want costs $4,000." That's because the one you really want has a big screen. The functionality of all the units in the line is comparable - the big factor driving price is screen size (same deal as LCD TVs). And after trying to peer at the tiny screen on my Garmin 276, I am saving my nickels for the biggest screen GPS that the boat will accomodate. As one reviewer said, a 3" screen on a chartplotter is like trying to look at a map through a keyhole.
HAPPYJIM	posted 11-20-2006 08:29 AM ET (US) I haven't bought into the "big screen" option, yet. I think my handheld Garmin 45 is more than adequate. I still rely on a paper chart for navigation and use the GPS to make sure I really am where I am. I also like that I can take my handheld on any boat that I fish on(all my personal waypoints are with me). I'll probably wait until they come out with a heads up display before I set aside my old handheld.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 11-20-2006 09:51 AM ET (US) The big screen doesn't cost $4000, not when there are laptops with bigger screens (and a hard drive, CD/DVD ROM, and a real keyboard) for less than $1000. Chuck
jimh	posted 11-26-2006 01:31 AM ET (US) Large high-resolution LCD displays which can be viewed in sunlight are very expensive. Most laptop computer displays are not easily seen in direct sunlight. Most Dell laptop computer displays are not easily seen even in subdued indoor lighting, and would probably be useless on a boat in direct sunlight. According to the information in the Garmin press release, "all 4000 series units are NMEA 2000 compliant." This is good news. Garmin joins the many other electronic manufacturers in embracing the new NMEA-2000 protocol. It was curious that they chose to make this big announcement at the European trade show. They apparently kept quiet about it at the Florida show a few weeks earlier.
WT	posted 11-26-2006 12:50 PM ET (US) Garmin can't deliver lower end units until 1st quarter 2007. The higher end units won't be available until the 2nd quarter 2007. I'm kind of surprised that Garmin announced so soon. Now Garmin will have to discount their current stock right before the holidays. Then there will be those buyers that won't buy Garmin until the new products are out. Warren