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Estero posted 08-04-2007 08:39 PM ET (US)
While troubleshooting a problem with my combined side light, I managed to break off one of the copper terminals on the lamp base. The base attaches by a flange that screws onto the bottom of the fixture, but the guy at the marine supply store I went to had no idea where to look for a replacement.
Because it's so easily removed, one would think that a replacement part should be available, unless it's just too old. The boat is a 1982 Montauk.
Any suggestions on where to get a new one? Twin Cities? West Marine?
A couple of photos to illustrate the part. They're a bit fuzzy, but you should get the idea.
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j13/Estero_SLO/?action=view& current=DSCN1538.jpg
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j13/Estero_SLO/?action=view& current=DSCN1537.jpg
Thanks in advance.
Tim

17 bodega posted 08-05-2007 03:34 AM ET (US)
Twin Cities should have the part. It is a perko replacement part with a slightly different bulb design. I bought one from Outboard Motor Shop in Oakland, CA.
It is very expensive. $100. You could rig something with your original housing but that bulb base looks toast. The old lights from the early 70's are no longer Coast Guard compliant. The new replacement part is.
Good Luck. Depending on the condition of your existing wire, you may end up wanting to pull (stuff) a new pair of tinned wires in the rubrail.
Estero posted 08-05-2007 10:48 AM ET (US)
Steve-
If I'm understanding your reply, it sounds like I have to replace the whole bow light? I was hoping that it's possible to replace just the lamp base/socket (the piece shown in photograph 1537).
Thanks for your help.
Tim
17 bodega posted 08-05-2007 08:14 PM ET (US)
Tim,
you don't have to replace the whole light, but I'll explain my reasons for doing so.
The little fixture in your light setup is the same as mine was I'm pretty sure. The bulb is very small and fits in the fixture. It no longer is CG compliant so that fixture is no longer supported as a PERKO bow/navigation light. The next size up is, but you will have trouble fitting that into the fixture (the cast iron part) without modifying the fixture. I had to jury rig mine even after buying the whole new top piece.
The new replacement part comes with the wiring, the newer two contact bulb, lens, and iron housing.
Looking at your photo, the old socket looks pretty corroded. You could probably find some sort of bulb socket and make the light work fine. It will just require some creativity on your part.
I wonder if anyone else here has played around with this problem and solved it without buying the pricey OEM retrofit part like myself.

Check out this FAQ from the whaler website
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Rec/default2.asp?content=maintenancefaqs#3
Estero posted 08-06-2007 09:33 AM ET (US)
Thanks Steve, that was very helpful.
Tim

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Author	Topic: Lamp Base for Montauk Combined Side Lights
Estero	posted 08-04-2007 08:39 PM ET (US) While troubleshooting a problem with my combined side light, I managed to break off one of the copper terminals on the lamp base. The base attaches by a flange that screws onto the bottom of the fixture, but the guy at the marine supply store I went to had no idea where to look for a replacement. Because it's so easily removed, one would think that a replacement part should be available, unless it's just too old. The boat is a 1982 Montauk. Any suggestions on where to get a new one? Twin Cities? West Marine? A couple of photos to illustrate the part. They're a bit fuzzy, but you should get the idea. http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j13/Estero_SLO/?action=view& current=DSCN1538.jpg http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j13/Estero_SLO/?action=view& current=DSCN1537.jpg Thanks in advance. Tim
17 bodega	posted 08-05-2007 03:34 AM ET (US) Twin Cities should have the part. It is a perko replacement part with a slightly different bulb design. I bought one from Outboard Motor Shop in Oakland, CA. It is very expensive. $100. You could rig something with your original housing but that bulb base looks toast. The old lights from the early 70's are no longer Coast Guard compliant. The new replacement part is. Good Luck. Depending on the condition of your existing wire, you may end up wanting to pull (stuff) a new pair of tinned wires in the rubrail.
Estero	posted 08-05-2007 10:48 AM ET (US) Steve- If I'm understanding your reply, it sounds like I have to replace the whole bow light? I was hoping that it's possible to replace just the lamp base/socket (the piece shown in photograph 1537). Thanks for your help. Tim
17 bodega	posted 08-05-2007 08:14 PM ET (US) Tim, you don't have to replace the whole light, but I'll explain my reasons for doing so. The little fixture in your light setup is the same as mine was I'm pretty sure. The bulb is very small and fits in the fixture. It no longer is CG compliant so that fixture is no longer supported as a PERKO bow/navigation light. The next size up is, but you will have trouble fitting that into the fixture (the cast iron part) without modifying the fixture. I had to jury rig mine even after buying the whole new top piece. The new replacement part comes with the wiring, the newer two contact bulb, lens, and iron housing. Looking at your photo, the old socket looks pretty corroded. You could probably find some sort of bulb socket and make the light work fine. It will just require some creativity on your part. I wonder if anyone else here has played around with this problem and solved it without buying the pricey OEM retrofit part like myself. Check out this FAQ from the whaler website http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Rec/default2.asp?content=maintenancefaqs#3
Estero	posted 08-06-2007 09:33 AM ET (US) Thanks Steve, that was very helpful. Tim