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bluewaterpirate posted 03-26-2008 10:36 AM ET (US)
[Announced that on an other website another person (who is a dealer and sells marine electronics) had posted an article about this product.]
jimh posted 03-26-2008 07:18 PM ET (US)
I think it is great that GARMIN is moving its products toward having NMEA-2000 network interfaces. I have always been a fan of NMEA-2000 networking.
The GARMIN website has more information here:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11187
I do note that at $2464, MSRP, this product may be on the high end of small boat electronics.
I also think it is great that the GARMIN 4210 supports the NMEA-2000 PGNs for AIS overlay on the display. Having AIS overlay, in my opinion, has now become de rigueur for the modern electronic chart display device.
GARMIN seems to be relatively late to adopt NMEA-2000 as a protocol and interface. LOWRANCE has really been a trail blazer in this regard. It will be interesting to see if GARMIN products interoperate with other NMEA-2000 devices.
kwik_wurk posted 03-27-2008 11:25 AM ET (US)
Yeah, it is good to see Garmin get on board.
I just wish NAVMAN would get up to NMEA-2000. Other misc. electronics not being up to NMEA-2000 is quite confounding.
And NMEA-2000 is a good improvement over the 0183 standard. (However 2000 is much more expensive. But that is the way commerce works)
Chuck Tribolet posted 03-27-2008 03:53 PM ET (US)
NMEA-2000 being more expensive is a function of the volumes.
NMEA-0183 works on a standard serial port (well, sorta).
Every processor chip maker on the planet has a physical
interface for serial. Not all have a NMEA-2000.
IMHO, the NMEA folks screwed up BIG TIME when NMEA-2000 wasn't
just Ethernet. Most (at least) of the processor chip makers
have an Ethernet interface.

Chuck
jimh posted 03-28-2008 12:20 AM ET (US)
The Ethernet versus NMEA-2000 debate is a good topic for another discussion.

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Author	Topic: Garmin 4210 NMEA 2000, New Mounts
bluewaterpirate	posted 03-26-2008 10:36 AM ET (US) [Announced that on an other website another person (who is a dealer and sells marine electronics) had posted an article about this product.]
jimh	posted 03-26-2008 07:18 PM ET (US) I think it is great that GARMIN is moving its products toward having NMEA-2000 network interfaces. I have always been a fan of NMEA-2000 networking. The GARMIN website has more information here: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11187 I do note that at $2464, MSRP, this product may be on the high end of small boat electronics. I also think it is great that the GARMIN 4210 supports the NMEA-2000 PGNs for AIS overlay on the display. Having AIS overlay, in my opinion, has now become de rigueur for the modern electronic chart display device. GARMIN seems to be relatively late to adopt NMEA-2000 as a protocol and interface. LOWRANCE has really been a trail blazer in this regard. It will be interesting to see if GARMIN products interoperate with other NMEA-2000 devices.
kwik_wurk	posted 03-27-2008 11:25 AM ET (US) Yeah, it is good to see Garmin get on board. I just wish NAVMAN would get up to NMEA-2000. Other misc. electronics not being up to NMEA-2000 is quite confounding. And NMEA-2000 is a good improvement over the 0183 standard. (However 2000 is much more expensive. But that is the way commerce works)
Chuck Tribolet	posted 03-27-2008 03:53 PM ET (US) NMEA-2000 being more expensive is a function of the volumes. NMEA-0183 works on a standard serial port (well, sorta). Every processor chip maker on the planet has a physical interface for serial. Not all have a NMEA-2000. IMHO, the NMEA folks screwed up BIG TIME when NMEA-2000 wasn't just Ethernet. Most (at least) of the processor chip makers have an Ethernet interface. Chuck
jimh	posted 03-28-2008 12:20 AM ET (US) The Ethernet versus NMEA-2000 debate is a good topic for another discussion.