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jimh posted 10-27-2011 08:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
Recently I made a major overhaul of the engine gauges on my E-TEC powered boat, and I installed a total of seven new gauges from the recently released Evinrude ICON gauge series. The ICON gauges replaced my previous gauge installation which used a combination of five legacy, conventional analog gauges and two digital gauges of the Evinrude I-Command series.

The new line of ICON gauges contains a very broad selection of instruments--too many for me to describe in detail here--but I do give some background on the new series and much detail of their installation in an illustrated article at:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/ICONgauges.html

The article describes the electronic networking used with the ICON system, and shows the installation on my boat. The appearance of the ICON gauges is very nice, and the dial pointer resolution is extremely good. You can read the dial graduations to a very fine and precise value.

The gauges were installed in conjunction with a conversion of my outboard engine controls to the ICON electronic controls from the conventional mechanical controls. The two ICON features, controls and gauges, can be used independently; you can have one without the other. Together they make a very nice upgrade. I will describe the electronic control conversion in another article, which should appear soon.

If you have any questions or comments about the ICON gauges, feel free to append them to this thread, and I'll do my best to respond to them.

Mambo Minnow posted 11-03-2011 08:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
Another very nice reference article Jim!

Did you perform the conversion yourself? How many labor hours did this job entail? Did it include running wiring from the instrument panel all the way back to the engine, or was that already accomplished when you had the new motor installed by Lockeman's?

jimh posted 11-03-2011 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I did all of the gauge installation myself. Considering how long it took me--several weekends--I could not have afforded to pay anyone else to do it.

The electrical connections for the ICON gauges are very simple and take only moments to accomplish, thanks to the modular wiring components. In my installation the time consuming process was the mechanical modifications for the ICON gauges and for the ICON controls. I will describe the steps involved with both, as they were somewhat related in my conversion:

--locate position for new ignition key switch panel; drill holes and cut out area for panel. This was awkward because it had to be done in place, with many other devices already installed. There were constraints for the location due to cable length and mechanical interferences;

--rework my existing instrument panel to change hole size for adding an additional 3.5-inch gauge;

--fabricate wood mounting bases for the installation of the six-port hub, the gateway module, the auxiliary power relay, and power distribution terminal strip under the helm. Of course, I had to give those wood bases a careful sanding and a coat of epoxy so they would look good in the pictures; and they had to be located so the mounting screws for them would not be obtrusive. And their location was constrained by some cable lengths involved. It took a bit of planning to figure out where to mount everything so the wiring could be done without adding any cable extension, and the devices would still be accessible for installing and servicing;

--tear out the three existing electrical harnesses; these are replaced with a single cable; it is amazing to see, but the total wiring between helm and engine is one small network cable;

--tear out the NMEA backbone wiring to stern; no longer needed; also remove NMEA wiring from engine via rigging grommet; no longer needed;

--remove all the mechanical cables and the mechanical throttle and shift controls from helm;

--fabricate new hole for mounting ICON controls; fortunately there was just enough material left on the helm console after the original cut-out to give me a surface to mount the new controls so the mounting studs all found good wood for support.

Once all the mechanical changes were made, the electrical connections would take only a hour or less. Everything goes together very easily with the modular wiring components. For a new-boat builder the use of these gauges (and controls) will save labor on installation. For me, it was a lot of mechanical work to retro-fit them. However, it was a fun project. It is the sort of thing I enjoy. Some people enjoy having a paint brush in their hands and laying on ten coats of varnish; I enjoy fiddling with electronics, wires, connectors, configuration menus, and so on.

jimh posted 11-03-2011 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Lockeman's did not do any work with the gauges. Lockeman's converted the engine to electronic controls from the original mechanical controls. That process took about two hours or so. I will elaborate more about the engine control installation and the engine conversion in a separate article.

The ICON gauges are not only for installations with ICON controls. ICON gauges work very well with E-TEC engines that have mechanical controls. I had the gauges installed and working for a couple of weeks before making the switch to the electronic controls. You can use ICON gauges with three different rigging set-up's with E-TEC engines:

--ICON network wiring

--I-Command wiring harness

--System Check wiring harness

You just need a NMEA-2000 source for data from the engine. Some ICON gauges can also be fitted with conventional senders for other parameters. The ICON gauge system is very comprehensive and represents a big overhaul of the accessories from BRP for E-TEC engines.

conch posted 11-04-2011 01:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
Are ICON gauges available for the 30 or 40-HP E-TEC outboard engines? I could not find the answer on the Evinrude website. Anyone know or have [installed ICON gauges with a 30 or 40-HP E-TEC]?

Chuck

seahorse posted 11-04-2011 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     
The ICON gauges will work on 2008 and later 40hp to 90hp motors. They won't work on the 15HO, 25, or 30hp E-TECs.
conch posted 11-04-2011 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
Thank you Seahorse. I might have a 13-foot boatd added to the fleet in the near future and I'm trying to narrow my re-power choices. I have to admit I am a gauge junkie.--Chuck
jimh posted 11-04-2011 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The ICON gauges get their data via engine parameters sent on a NMEA-2000 network. If an engine is sending NMEA-2000 engine parameters, the ICON gauges ought to show them, unless they're using some proprietary parameters--but I don't think they are using proprietary PGN data at the NMEA-2000 interface.

The E-TEC 30-HP engine probably does not have a NMEA interface, and that's why it is not suited for ICON gauges.

I think my installation of ICON gauges was probably one of the first re-fits of ICON gauges on an existing boat, and I don't suspect that at this writing there are too many other boaters who have installed them. However, I think ICON will be quite popular, and more installations will be done on existing boats. I also expect that many new boat installations will move to ICON gauges for E-TEC powered boats.

conch posted 11-05-2011 08:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
Seahorse wrote that ICON gauges can be used with newer 40-HP E-TEC motors but not the 30-HP model. Now I can search for repower info narrowing my choice to 40hp E-TEC or 40hp Yamaha. If I choose E-TEC I would want ICON gauges so the 30-HP is out.

Chuck

jorgeraidel posted 06-09-2013 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jorgeraidel  Send Email to jorgeraidel     
Jimm

Please i need some suggestion, i installed like you the electronic kit including icon pro series ect, and and engine is starting and stop perfect, reverse,forward,neutral electronic perfect, the issues is about tach and speed gauges show me all dta field in 0 ? For example if i started engine no work RPM, is like dead :(, batery 0 v, temperature all and i try all. And nothing is like gateway module no send data from ems to nmea network but have LED blue on ?

Some suggestion?

jimh posted 06-09-2013 08:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Check the power to the Gateway Module. Also, the Gateway Module powers the NMEA-2000 network by itself. Perhaps you have two power taps now, and perhaps that is a problem.

Check the ICON Network connection between the Gateway Module and the Helm HUB.

jimh posted 06-09-2013 08:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Oh, and, of course, check the NMEA-2000 connection from the Gateway Module to the NMEA-2000 network backbone. The connector used on the Gateway Module might be a little different than those on the network backbone. Make sure you have it aligned correctly, there are no bent pins, and the connector collar is properly tightened at the network-T.
jorgeraidel posted 06-09-2013 12:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jorgeraidel  Send Email to jorgeraidel     
Thanks for your answare :)

Well i checked all and still having issues with gauges but checking all parts ect i saw very interesting thing the gateway module in my guide should be 764922 Gateway Module and cable kit and the gateway module that i have is P/N 764920 and i thinking that the problem is this module, jimm could you confirm that you gateway module is the correct part number?

jimh posted 06-10-2013 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I can't check those part numbers, at least not very easily. It may take me a week or more.
jimh posted 06-11-2013 04:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I just checked on my Evinrude ICON Gateway Module model. According to the NMEA-2000 data source identification, on my installation the module is

MODEL = 764920

and it works just fine.

sail16 posted 03-04-2014 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for sail16  Send Email to sail16     
Does the ICON Pro speedometer have a setting that will calibrate the needle to show knots instead of MPH?
jimh posted 03-05-2014 10:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Very interesting question!

Referring to my map of the menu options at

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/ICON_Menu.html

in the PAGE SETUP menu, one of the options is to SET UNITS. In the choices, there is a sub-menu for setting the units of SPEED. SPEED can be set to units of

--MPH
--KMH
--KNOTS

This setting will probably affect how the speed is shown on the LCD displays of the ICON Pro RPM gauge and the ICON Pro Speedometer gauge.

On the Evinrude ICON Pro Speedometer dial face, the graduations are denoted as being in units of MPH. There is a second set of graduations with much less resolution denoted as KMH. I suspect that the dial pointer will remain in MPH, even if you set the SPEED units to KNOTS, but I cannot verify this at this moment.

I suggest you check with Evinrude. Perhaps they have a separate version of the ICON Pro Speedometer gauge which has a different dial calibration on the dial pointer gauge face.

jimh posted 03-07-2014 01:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I did some investigation into the question (above) regarding displaying speed in units of KNOTS on the dial pointer of the SPEEDOMETER gauge: this cannot be done.

As a corollary, it should be possible to obtain an ICON Pro Speedometer gauge with the primary scale graduated in kilometers-per-hour. I believe these are available in Europe.

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