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floater88 posted 07-21-2014 06:18 PM ET (US)
I was testing all my [navigation] lights this morning, and I can't get the sternlight to work. It is getting power to the plug but not at the [lamp] end. Where could I get a replacement [lamp]? I'd like to get an LED, if I could. Thanks
jimh posted 07-22-2014 07:40 AM ET (US)
Are you asking about a replacement for the whole navigation lamp?
Is the lamp actually a sternlight? I suspect it might be a white all-round light.
There are many manufacturers of navigation lamps. Whether or not there is a direct replacement for the lamp you have now is hard to say, as it is not clear what lamp you are asking about, and also what style. The best approach is to look through a catalogue from a navigation lamp manufacturer.
If you just need a replacement for the miniature electric lightbulb, and you want to replace it with an LED lightbulb, there are a lot of suppliers of that sort of item, but we'd need to know the number of the miniature incandescent electric lightbulb you want to replace with an LED.
Please note:
Light is what you see. It is produced by a lamp. Inside the lamp there is lightbulb.
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-22-2014 08:51 PM ET (US)
Do be careful about LED lightbulbs. I got one for my white
all-round light on my Montauk (a Perko part), and the LEDs
were not in the same place vertically as the incandescent
filament, so the Fresnel lens on the all-round light didn't
function as designed.
That LED bulb cost about $50.
Chuck
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-22-2014 08:52 PM ET (US)
The all-round light is a Perko part, not the LED lightbulb.
Chuck
floater88 posted 07-22-2014 10:17 PM ET (US)
I'm talking about the light at the end of the seven foot pole that goes at the back of the boat. I have no power at the socket where the bulb goes into. I want to replace that socket piece and bulb, preferably with a brighter light. I saw some posts on here about a guy who made a fitting out of Starboard. I will look into making one of those if need be. I will remove the bulb and see if there are any numbers on it.
jimh posted 07-23-2014 10:36 PM ET (US)
Are you talking about a white all-round lamp? They are usually mounted on a mast.
A sternlight is something very different from a white all-round light. Unless you have a masthead light, you probably do not have a sternlight.
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-24-2014 04:43 PM ET (US)
On my all-round light, the light socket is a replaceable part
at West Marine. I'd just rewire the pole. Use Ancor
marine-grade parts.
Chuck
floater88 posted 07-28-2014 08:21 PM ET (US)
Ok got my white all-round lamp all done. [Victory] carries a product that was almost an exact fit for the original bulb socket.
It took some minor modifications of the base to get this new one to fit. I had to cut out the original socket and the new one just dropped in.
The bulb that came with the new socket was too short now as the new base sat lower than the original. An automotive bulb that was taller did the trick.
Now to mount the post so it wasn't banging around in the cuddy. I bought some clips that you use to hold shovels up in a shed and mounted three of them to my Trolling Bar,
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/sterios/IMG_20140728_185107_zps86c7b71a.jpg
The clips hold tight and now the pole is stowed till it's needed.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/sterios/IMG_20140728_185056_zps3a6f9881.jpg
David Pendleton posted 07-28-2014 09:09 PM ET (US)
Why anyone would run an incan instead of an LED escapes me...
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-28-2014 09:23 PM ET (US)
As I said above, and as floater said, if a bulb makes light
in the wrong place for the rest of the system, it's not useful.
Chuck
floater88 posted 07-29-2014 06:33 PM ET (US)
Well Anyone would run an incan cus it's waaaay cheaper and i've spent enough on this boat this year. It's very rare for me to be out in the dark anyways cus the salmon don't hit at night. The set up works great and I'M happy with it.
jimh posted 08-17-2014 05:11 PM ET (US)
This lamp might be a good candidate for a replacement lamp for a simple Perko-style white all-round lamp:
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|65136|2312550|2312552& id=64802
I have not tried this lamp, but it looks like it would be very similar to the classic Boston Whaler white all-round pole-mounted lamp seen on many boats.

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Author	Topic: Navigation Lamp Replacement
floater88	posted 07-21-2014 06:18 PM ET (US) I was testing all my [navigation] lights this morning, and I can't get the sternlight to work. It is getting power to the plug but not at the [lamp] end. Where could I get a replacement [lamp]? I'd like to get an LED, if I could. Thanks
jimh	posted 07-22-2014 07:40 AM ET (US) Are you asking about a replacement for the whole navigation lamp? Is the lamp actually a sternlight? I suspect it might be a white all-round light. There are many manufacturers of navigation lamps. Whether or not there is a direct replacement for the lamp you have now is hard to say, as it is not clear what lamp you are asking about, and also what style. The best approach is to look through a catalogue from a navigation lamp manufacturer. If you just need a replacement for the miniature electric lightbulb, and you want to replace it with an LED lightbulb, there are a lot of suppliers of that sort of item, but we'd need to know the number of the miniature incandescent electric lightbulb you want to replace with an LED. Please note: Light is what you see. It is produced by a lamp. Inside the lamp there is lightbulb.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-22-2014 08:51 PM ET (US) Do be careful about LED lightbulbs. I got one for my white all-round light on my Montauk (a Perko part), and the LEDs were not in the same place vertically as the incandescent filament, so the Fresnel lens on the all-round light didn't function as designed. That LED bulb cost about $50. Chuck
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-22-2014 08:52 PM ET (US) The all-round light is a Perko part, not the LED lightbulb. Chuck
floater88	posted 07-22-2014 10:17 PM ET (US) I'm talking about the light at the end of the seven foot pole that goes at the back of the boat. I have no power at the socket where the bulb goes into. I want to replace that socket piece and bulb, preferably with a brighter light. I saw some posts on here about a guy who made a fitting out of Starboard. I will look into making one of those if need be. I will remove the bulb and see if there are any numbers on it.
jimh	posted 07-23-2014 10:36 PM ET (US) Are you talking about a white all-round lamp? They are usually mounted on a mast. A sternlight is something very different from a white all-round light. Unless you have a masthead light, you probably do not have a sternlight.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-24-2014 04:43 PM ET (US) On my all-round light, the light socket is a replaceable part at West Marine. I'd just rewire the pole. Use Ancor marine-grade parts. Chuck
floater88	posted 07-28-2014 08:21 PM ET (US) Ok got my white all-round lamp all done. [Victory] carries a product that was almost an exact fit for the original bulb socket. It took some minor modifications of the base to get this new one to fit. I had to cut out the original socket and the new one just dropped in. The bulb that came with the new socket was too short now as the new base sat lower than the original. An automotive bulb that was taller did the trick. Now to mount the post so it wasn't banging around in the cuddy. I bought some clips that you use to hold shovels up in a shed and mounted three of them to my Trolling Bar, http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/sterios/IMG_20140728_185107_zps86c7b71a.jpg The clips hold tight and now the pole is stowed till it's needed. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/sterios/IMG_20140728_185056_zps3a6f9881.jpg
David Pendleton	posted 07-28-2014 09:09 PM ET (US) Why anyone would run an incan instead of an LED escapes me...
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-28-2014 09:23 PM ET (US) As I said above, and as floater said, if a bulb makes light in the wrong place for the rest of the system, it's not useful. Chuck
floater88	posted 07-29-2014 06:33 PM ET (US) Well Anyone would run an incan cus it's waaaay cheaper and i've spent enough on this boat this year. It's very rare for me to be out in the dark anyways cus the salmon don't hit at night. The set up works great and I'M happy with it.
jimh	posted 08-17-2014 05:11 PM ET (US) This lamp might be a good candidate for a replacement lamp for a simple Perko-style white all-round lamp: http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1\|65136\|2312550\|2312552& id=64802 I have not tried this lamp, but it looks like it would be very similar to the classic Boston Whaler white all-round pole-mounted lamp seen on many boats.