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Bill Davis posted 01-13-2001 07:18 AM ET (US)
This wonderful site may be my last hope!
I just bought a used 13' Boston Whaler Sport 13'. It came on a EZ Loader trailer that was part of a Boston Whaler package on the boat, the trailer bearing a Whaler logo on it. It is a bunk style trailer, and the rear-most cross-piece is two or three feet under or forward of the rear, bottom edge of the transom.

I need to have the outboard motor [a 30 hp Merc that was also part of the standard package on this year 2000 model] tilted or "trimmed" up to trailer it, even to just get out of my driveway. For that, I must have some kind of motor support, like a transom saver.

However, the transom saver must extend from the bottom, prop-end of the motor, to the trailer cross piece. But, since there is no cross piece on this "short" trailer, at the rear of the boat, what do I do? It looks impossible! It looks like none of the "transom savers" I have seen on the market could possibly work.
I want to go fishing!!

Thanks,
bill davis
whdavis2@ix.netcom.com850/385-4001
dgp posted 01-13-2001 08:13 AM ET (US)
Bill, you need a transom saver with a dog-leg style, try www.hagenfish.com/marine.htm
Don
Bill Davis posted 01-13-2001 09:00 AM ET (US)
Well, I tried the hagenmarine.com site, but it wouldn't load. Could you give me more information? I sure hope you weren't talking about this similar sounding site:
http://www.hagen-engineering.de/marine/marine.html
It is a little big looking!
Bill Davis posted 01-13-2001 09:02 AM ET (US)
Don: I found the site. It is:
http://www.hagensfish.com/marine.htm
thanks!
Bill Davis posted 01-13-2001 09:18 AM ET (US)
I can't tell what supports the non-motor ends of the support, when looking at the picture at the Hagen site. Do you have one of these dog-leg style gizmoes? Does it go from the trailer to the motor, or from the boat to the motor??
bigz posted 01-13-2001 09:23 AM ET (US)
Bill if you need a source try Cabela's it is in their 2000 marine catalog part #SL-01-1012 price is $39.99 --- good luck Tom
Bill Davis posted 01-13-2001 09:51 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the Cabella's tip. Good picture and explanation!
After it looked like a slight pain in the posterior to use that under-the-boat mounted support [promising easy removal for loading and unloading], I called the nearest Whaler dealer. He said not to worry: don't need a motor support on this Sport 13 to trailer it. He said "we" just tilt it up with the tilt motor as needed and drive on! We, I dunno... Sounds easier....
bigz posted 01-13-2001 10:15 AM ET (US)
Bill well you can but if she (boat) is hanging that far out be prepared for some spider cracks developing on the deck below the well along the drain channel. This will be caused by the stress produced from the stern being unsupported with the motor suspended and bouncing as your merrily travel along. The other alternative if the trailer bow winch stand support can be moved forward and you can get the whole boat on the bunks flush with the stern the use of the motor bracket will work. Just some thoughts form a little bit of experience -- Tom
Whaletosh posted 01-24-2001 01:14 PM ET (US)
The Cabelas part SL-01-1012 which is listed on the Cabela's website as IB-01-1012 is the way to go. I can vouch that it works because that is what I use for my 13 Sport with ta 25 4 stroke.
dchris2 posted 01-29-2001 10:11 PM ET (US)
Please keep this going. I,m close to being an owner of a 2001 sport with the 40 horse elpto engine. What ever that means. Just have to come up with 1.5 k and I'm done. I want to haul it everywhere. but, realistically it will just hang at the jersey shore this summer. It will be garaged for the winter. Advise on the Mill's shelter for extending life into the late fall would be appreciated. Advise regarding a done deal is discouraged. I bought it and am confident. When you see the black smoke on the horizon, you'll know it's me. now about that CG auxillary course: they don't offer them in NC PA; i gots the knot tying book.
lhg posted 01-29-2001 11:44 PM ET (US)
dchris2: Glad to see you've bought a Whaler. It should run nicely with the 40HP. The 40ELPTO means:
E = Electric Start
L = Long Shaft (20")
PT = Power Trim
O = Oil Injected
B Bear posted 01-30-2001 08:17 AM ET (US)
If that Coast Gaurd Aux course is the boating safety course. You can get that through The U.S. Power Squadron, you can find their link off the U.S. Coast Gaurd we site. Not as good is the US Boat internet course.
dchris2 posted 01-30-2001 11:16 PM ET (US)
Only joking, but I do need to brush up on my etiquette. I'm geographically isolated. Those damn rules. Stupid move was the Houston Ship channel on a Hobie 16 in irons. Dumb is forced upon you. It won't happen again, thanks for the link
Bill Davis posted 01-31-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)
Well, I have ordered the Cabellas item noted in the above posts. It just made sense to me to protect the transom--I hope to be doing a little bouncing down some rut roads to some landings, and I don't want to be worring about the motor damaging the boat or the hydraulics getting messed up. Besides, it wasn't too expensive and it gives me another gizmo. I will report later on how hard it is to disengage for launch--that is my major concern.
I managed to find the manufacturer and I could have ordered direct and saved maybe $10, but it was snail mail and--this was the kicker--no returns without prior authorization. Their material was sort of stern [pun?]. Cabellas had a full satisfaction gauranteed policy, so I went there and threw in a couple spools of high class fishing line and a rail-mounting rod holder to experiment with.
Thanks all, for your advice.
bill
Bill Davis posted 02-04-2001 09:37 PM ET (US)
Beutiful day up the St. Marks River. Wild turkeys, otters, great white heron, pelicans.
But I just couldn't get the darn transom saver installed! My darn trailer doesn't have holes in the right place in the crossbar, as far as I could tell. Have an email posted to Cabellas and will see.
Bill Davis posted 02-09-2001 08:47 PM ET (US)
FINAL VERDICT: Boston Whaler sells a Sport 13 with motor manual that says to use a motor support, or transom saver, when towing the boat. But it sells the boat on a trailer that is not compatible with ANY transom saver on the market.
Bill Davis posted 02-11-2001 01:56 PM ET (US)
BUT I just had to get the Cabella's hard copy catalogue to get a good look on where it had the thing mounted on the trailer and drill a couple holes through the trailer crossmember and I now have a transom saver after all.
thanks for all the advice--hope all 13 Sporters can use it.
bill
jimh posted 02-11-2001 03:11 PM ET (US)
I am joining this thread a little late, but I enjoyed reading about all the efforts.
Now, not to pee in the pool, but drilling holes in the cross member! Won't that weaken it?
--jimh
bigz posted 02-11-2001 03:23 PM ET (US)
JimH --- NO IT WON'T --- so you didn't pee wee in the poolee --- Tom
PS: Unless of course Bill D had to drill 2"-3" holes --- ;)
lhg posted 02-11-2001 04:11 PM ET (US)
Always try to drill a trailer frame dead center (vertically) in the beam or cross member. In structural engineering terms, this is referred to as the Neutral Axis, where there is no bending stress at all. For those of you contemplating adding keel rollers, etc, this is important, and as BigZ says, will not weaken the beam.
JB posted 02-13-2001 07:01 PM ET (US)
I had the problem of where to attach the transom saver on the trailer...What I did was attach a metal crosspiece, on the bottom of the rear-most roller bracket, below the trailer frame, and attached the "U" bracket that pip pins to the transom saver to it in the center of the crosspiece, facing rearwards. Works great.

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Author	Topic: transom saver-motor support for 13' Sport
Bill Davis	posted 01-13-2001 07:18 AM ET (US) This wonderful site may be my last hope! I just bought a used 13' Boston Whaler Sport 13'. It came on a EZ Loader trailer that was part of a Boston Whaler package on the boat, the trailer bearing a Whaler logo on it. It is a bunk style trailer, and the rear-most cross-piece is two or three feet under or forward of the rear, bottom edge of the transom. I need to have the outboard motor [a 30 hp Merc that was also part of the standard package on this year 2000 model] tilted or "trimmed" up to trailer it, even to just get out of my driveway. For that, I must have some kind of motor support, like a transom saver. However, the transom saver must extend from the bottom, prop-end of the motor, to the trailer cross piece. But, since there is no cross piece on this "short" trailer, at the rear of the boat, what do I do? It looks impossible! It looks like none of the "transom savers" I have seen on the market could possibly work. I want to go fishing!! Thanks, bill davis whdavis2@ix.netcom.com850/385-4001
dgp	posted 01-13-2001 08:13 AM ET (US) Bill, you need a transom saver with a dog-leg style, try www.hagenfish.com/marine.htm Don
Bill Davis	posted 01-13-2001 09:00 AM ET (US) Well, I tried the hagenmarine.com site, but it wouldn't load. Could you give me more information? I sure hope you weren't talking about this similar sounding site: http://www.hagen-engineering.de/marine/marine.html It is a little big looking!
Bill Davis	posted 01-13-2001 09:02 AM ET (US) Don: I found the site. It is: http://www.hagensfish.com/marine.htm thanks!
Bill Davis	posted 01-13-2001 09:18 AM ET (US) I can't tell what supports the non-motor ends of the support, when looking at the picture at the Hagen site. Do you have one of these dog-leg style gizmoes? Does it go from the trailer to the motor, or from the boat to the motor??
bigz	posted 01-13-2001 09:23 AM ET (US) Bill if you need a source try Cabela's it is in their 2000 marine catalog part #SL-01-1012 price is $39.99 --- good luck Tom
Bill Davis	posted 01-13-2001 09:51 AM ET (US) Thanks for the Cabella's tip. Good picture and explanation! After it looked like a slight pain in the posterior to use that under-the-boat mounted support [promising easy removal for loading and unloading], I called the nearest Whaler dealer. He said not to worry: don't need a motor support on this Sport 13 to trailer it. He said "we" just tilt it up with the tilt motor as needed and drive on! We, I dunno... Sounds easier....
bigz	posted 01-13-2001 10:15 AM ET (US) Bill well you can but if she (boat) is hanging that far out be prepared for some spider cracks developing on the deck below the well along the drain channel. This will be caused by the stress produced from the stern being unsupported with the motor suspended and bouncing as your merrily travel along. The other alternative if the trailer bow winch stand support can be moved forward and you can get the whole boat on the bunks flush with the stern the use of the motor bracket will work. Just some thoughts form a little bit of experience -- Tom
Whaletosh	posted 01-24-2001 01:14 PM ET (US) The Cabelas part SL-01-1012 which is listed on the Cabela's website as IB-01-1012 is the way to go. I can vouch that it works because that is what I use for my 13 Sport with ta 25 4 stroke.
dchris2	posted 01-29-2001 10:11 PM ET (US) Please keep this going. I,m close to being an owner of a 2001 sport with the 40 horse elpto engine. What ever that means. Just have to come up with 1.5 k and I'm done. I want to haul it everywhere. but, realistically it will just hang at the jersey shore this summer. It will be garaged for the winter. Advise on the Mill's shelter for extending life into the late fall would be appreciated. Advise regarding a done deal is discouraged. I bought it and am confident. When you see the black smoke on the horizon, you'll know it's me. now about that CG auxillary course: they don't offer them in NC PA; i gots the knot tying book.
lhg	posted 01-29-2001 11:44 PM ET (US) dchris2: Glad to see you've bought a Whaler. It should run nicely with the 40HP. The 40ELPTO means: E = Electric Start L = Long Shaft (20") PT = Power Trim O = Oil Injected
B Bear	posted 01-30-2001 08:17 AM ET (US) If that Coast Gaurd Aux course is the boating safety course. You can get that through The U.S. Power Squadron, you can find their link off the U.S. Coast Gaurd we site. Not as good is the US Boat internet course.
dchris2	posted 01-30-2001 11:16 PM ET (US) Only joking, but I do need to brush up on my etiquette. I'm geographically isolated. Those damn rules. Stupid move was the Houston Ship channel on a Hobie 16 in irons. Dumb is forced upon you. It won't happen again, thanks for the link
Bill Davis	posted 01-31-2001 09:59 PM ET (US) Well, I have ordered the Cabellas item noted in the above posts. It just made sense to me to protect the transom--I hope to be doing a little bouncing down some rut roads to some landings, and I don't want to be worring about the motor damaging the boat or the hydraulics getting messed up. Besides, it wasn't too expensive and it gives me another gizmo. I will report later on how hard it is to disengage for launch--that is my major concern. I managed to find the manufacturer and I could have ordered direct and saved maybe $10, but it was snail mail and--this was the kicker--no returns without prior authorization. Their material was sort of stern [pun?]. Cabellas had a full satisfaction gauranteed policy, so I went there and threw in a couple spools of high class fishing line and a rail-mounting rod holder to experiment with. Thanks all, for your advice. bill
Bill Davis	posted 02-04-2001 09:37 PM ET (US) Beutiful day up the St. Marks River. Wild turkeys, otters, great white heron, pelicans. But I just couldn't get the darn transom saver installed! My darn trailer doesn't have holes in the right place in the crossbar, as far as I could tell. Have an email posted to Cabellas and will see.
Bill Davis	posted 02-09-2001 08:47 PM ET (US) FINAL VERDICT: Boston Whaler sells a Sport 13 with motor manual that says to use a motor support, or transom saver, when towing the boat. But it sells the boat on a trailer that is not compatible with ANY transom saver on the market.
Bill Davis	posted 02-11-2001 01:56 PM ET (US) BUT I just had to get the Cabella's hard copy catalogue to get a good look on where it had the thing mounted on the trailer and drill a couple holes through the trailer crossmember and I now have a transom saver after all. thanks for all the advice--hope all 13 Sporters can use it. bill
jimh	posted 02-11-2001 03:11 PM ET (US) I am joining this thread a little late, but I enjoyed reading about all the efforts. Now, not to pee in the pool, but drilling holes in the cross member! Won't that weaken it? --jimh
bigz	posted 02-11-2001 03:23 PM ET (US) JimH --- NO IT WON'T --- so you didn't pee wee in the poolee --- Tom PS: Unless of course Bill D had to drill 2"-3" holes --- ;)
lhg	posted 02-11-2001 04:11 PM ET (US) Always try to drill a trailer frame dead center (vertically) in the beam or cross member. In structural engineering terms, this is referred to as the Neutral Axis, where there is no bending stress at all. For those of you contemplating adding keel rollers, etc, this is important, and as BigZ says, will not weaken the beam.
JB	posted 02-13-2001 07:01 PM ET (US) I had the problem of where to attach the transom saver on the trailer...What I did was attach a metal crosspiece, on the bottom of the rear-most roller bracket, below the trailer frame, and attached the "U" bracket that pip pins to the transom saver to it in the center of the crosspiece, facing rearwards. Works great.