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Jurisproodenz posted 05-28-2001 10:28 PM ET (US)
I just spent the first weekend out on my new (at least for me -- its a 2000 model) Outrage 26. She is named Patronus (my son's a Harry Potter fan). For most of this morning we ran a steady 3100 rpm and 30 mph -- the motors just hummed and the hull beat down the harbor chop. No spray aboard. I have fears, as does just about everyone else, about the Optimax motors, but they performed beautifully. In the afternoon we had to make a run back to the marina to beat a weather front moving in ... ran her up to 4100 rpm and 36.5 knots on the GPS in chop and wind. A fellow in a larger Sea Ray tried to keep up for a moment: he just gave it up. Of course I cut it a bit too fine and found the rain smacking me in the face, but it was worth it. The faces on my kids... :) Even my wife was thrilled.
She has a white hull, white rubrail, TopGun outriggers and custom t-top, black canvas on the t-top, black antifouling, black whaler accent line, black mooring lines, black fenders and, of course, two mammoth black Optis on the transom. The Mercury blue is the only color on the boat.
Let the sun shine.
kingfish posted 05-28-2001 10:55 PM ET (US)
Sounds awesome, Jp - send Jimh some photos...Can't help but ask, though - what is (was) your concern about the Opti's? I've heard nothing but superlatives about them...
kingfish
jimh posted 05-28-2001 11:43 PM ET (US)
There is a nice review of the 26-Conquest in the JUNE 2001 issue of SPORTFISHING BOATS magazine. My wife loves the port side settee in the cockpit/helm area.
You may be interested to see the analysis of the propeller performance I just added to the REFERENCE section article. Using the data from the magazine and the specs for the Optimax engines, I was able to compute the propeller performance.
Here is this new data:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/prop2.html#26-conquest
It would be interesting to see how this compares to your set up.
dhlaw posted 05-29-2001 11:27 AM ET (US)
I have a 2000 28 Conquest with twin 225 optis and run offshore every week, in fact we were 50 miles yesterday. I run my motors at 4200 rpm's for hours with no problems. If I drive at 3100 rpm's it takes forever to get where I am going, and the boat rides like a barge. In other words....hammer it!!
sorcerer posted 05-29-2001 03:40 PM ET (US)
At 8000lbs the weight of the 28' Conquest is the dry weight of the standard
model. This would not include the engines or options.
Pretty heavy boat, huh! No wonder you need the pedal to the metal "dhlaw" -- It is a "barge" no offense intended they are nicely laid out boats.
Jurisproodenz posted 05-29-2001 08:00 PM ET (US)
The computed performance is something like 52.6 mph (1/2 tank). If we assume that the boat would achieve 10 mph per 1000 rpm from 3000 on (more or less what I saw), then this figure would be pretty close. With 200 gallons of fuel and the option to put a good number of large adults on the boat, the application of the equation is clearly subject to some variation as to result.
When I get a Dad's afternoon off without the family aboard, I will try and determine some real specifics as to performance. I will and measure rpms / speed observed at slack water (or behind the sea locks) and as little wind as possible. Without controlled conditions, it all become a bit tenuous.
Without knowing fuel consumption in mpg (the boat does not have the fancy "smart" guages -- they are implicated in a great many of the Optimax horror stories) I don't know for sure what the optimum cruising speed is in terms of mpg, but I was very, very happy with the observed performance at 3100 rpm. At that speed the boat tracks beautifully and keeps herself firmly planted. At 4100, she is more in "missile mode" and requires some effort to hang on for the crew in the harbor chop. If, as I suspect from reading various reports on the boat, the optimum cruising speed in terms of range is between 4200 and 4500, I don't think that I will often be an efficient consumer of hydrocarbons!! Have to worry about wear and tear on the body and the boat does not come with bolsters as standard equipment. Maybe I am just getting older.
I am so ludicrously happy with the boat that the temptation is to sit here and gloat. Forgive me!!
dhlaw posted 05-29-2001 11:02 PM ET (US)
Ahhhh......Whaler ownership is a beautiful thing!!!!!
Sixer posted 05-30-2001 07:51 AM ET (US)
I have a 2000 23 Outrage with 225 Opti. Love the combo, I find a cruise of around 4000-4200 optimum for me. Have you heard that Mercury has pulled the 200 & 225 Opti and is no longer selling them? Undisclosed problems.
Ed Stone posted 06-06-2001 10:25 PM ET (US)
Hey sixer,
I also have 23 Outrage.How fast are you
cruising at 4100 rpms? With close to a
full tank of gas and oil at 4100rpms
I'm running about 34mph.I have twin
135 Optis.
How do you like the seating arrangments
on your 23? I don't use the bench seat
near as much as I thought I would.
Have you seen the optional sun lounge
that fills in the bow section?
I've got the leaning post with storage
and grab rail.The cooler is hard to
access under the leaning post.
2001's have changed to allow cooler
lid to open.
Ed Stone

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Author	Topic: Outrage 26
Jurisproodenz	posted 05-28-2001 10:28 PM ET (US) I just spent the first weekend out on my new (at least for me -- its a 2000 model) Outrage 26. She is named Patronus (my son's a Harry Potter fan). For most of this morning we ran a steady 3100 rpm and 30 mph -- the motors just hummed and the hull beat down the harbor chop. No spray aboard. I have fears, as does just about everyone else, about the Optimax motors, but they performed beautifully. In the afternoon we had to make a run back to the marina to beat a weather front moving in ... ran her up to 4100 rpm and 36.5 knots on the GPS in chop and wind. A fellow in a larger Sea Ray tried to keep up for a moment: he just gave it up. Of course I cut it a bit too fine and found the rain smacking me in the face, but it was worth it. The faces on my kids... :) Even my wife was thrilled. She has a white hull, white rubrail, TopGun outriggers and custom t-top, black canvas on the t-top, black antifouling, black whaler accent line, black mooring lines, black fenders and, of course, two mammoth black Optis on the transom. The Mercury blue is the only color on the boat. Let the sun shine.
kingfish	posted 05-28-2001 10:55 PM ET (US) Sounds awesome, Jp - send Jimh some photos...Can't help but ask, though - what is (was) your concern about the Opti's? I've heard nothing but superlatives about them... kingfish
jimh	posted 05-28-2001 11:43 PM ET (US) There is a nice review of the 26-Conquest in the JUNE 2001 issue of SPORTFISHING BOATS magazine. My wife loves the port side settee in the cockpit/helm area. You may be interested to see the analysis of the propeller performance I just added to the REFERENCE section article. Using the data from the magazine and the specs for the Optimax engines, I was able to compute the propeller performance. Here is this new data: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/prop2.html#26-conquest It would be interesting to see how this compares to your set up.
dhlaw	posted 05-29-2001 11:27 AM ET (US) I have a 2000 28 Conquest with twin 225 optis and run offshore every week, in fact we were 50 miles yesterday. I run my motors at 4200 rpm's for hours with no problems. If I drive at 3100 rpm's it takes forever to get where I am going, and the boat rides like a barge. In other words....hammer it!!
sorcerer	posted 05-29-2001 03:40 PM ET (US) At 8000lbs the weight of the 28' Conquest is the dry weight of the standard model. This would not include the engines or options. Pretty heavy boat, huh! No wonder you need the pedal to the metal "dhlaw" -- It is a "barge" no offense intended they are nicely laid out boats.
Jurisproodenz	posted 05-29-2001 08:00 PM ET (US) The computed performance is something like 52.6 mph (1/2 tank). If we assume that the boat would achieve 10 mph per 1000 rpm from 3000 on (more or less what I saw), then this figure would be pretty close. With 200 gallons of fuel and the option to put a good number of large adults on the boat, the application of the equation is clearly subject to some variation as to result. When I get a Dad's afternoon off without the family aboard, I will try and determine some real specifics as to performance. I will and measure rpms / speed observed at slack water (or behind the sea locks) and as little wind as possible. Without controlled conditions, it all become a bit tenuous. Without knowing fuel consumption in mpg (the boat does not have the fancy "smart" guages -- they are implicated in a great many of the Optimax horror stories) I don't know for sure what the optimum cruising speed is in terms of mpg, but I was very, very happy with the observed performance at 3100 rpm. At that speed the boat tracks beautifully and keeps herself firmly planted. At 4100, she is more in "missile mode" and requires some effort to hang on for the crew in the harbor chop. If, as I suspect from reading various reports on the boat, the optimum cruising speed in terms of range is between 4200 and 4500, I don't think that I will often be an efficient consumer of hydrocarbons!! Have to worry about wear and tear on the body and the boat does not come with bolsters as standard equipment. Maybe I am just getting older. I am so ludicrously happy with the boat that the temptation is to sit here and gloat. Forgive me!!
dhlaw	posted 05-29-2001 11:02 PM ET (US) Ahhhh......Whaler ownership is a beautiful thing!!!!!
Sixer	posted 05-30-2001 07:51 AM ET (US) I have a 2000 23 Outrage with 225 Opti. Love the combo, I find a cruise of around 4000-4200 optimum for me. Have you heard that Mercury has pulled the 200 & 225 Opti and is no longer selling them? Undisclosed problems.
Ed Stone	posted 06-06-2001 10:25 PM ET (US) Hey sixer, I also have 23 Outrage.How fast are you cruising at 4100 rpms? With close to a full tank of gas and oil at 4100rpms I'm running about 34mph.I have twin 135 Optis. How do you like the seating arrangments on your 23? I don't use the bench seat near as much as I thought I would. Have you seen the optional sun lounge that fills in the bow section? I've got the leaning post with storage and grab rail.The cooler is hard to access under the leaning post. 2001's have changed to allow cooler lid to open. Ed Stone