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NewWhalerGuy posted 09-16-2001 10:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for NewWhalerGuy   Send Email to NewWhalerGuy  
Hi... I am so excited!!! Just bought a used 1997 Standard 17' here in Canada and need a pile of help:

1) wants to put a Honda on her (have had good experience with them in past)... should I go with a 50 and go slower, but lighter or with a 90 and rocket?

2) what trailer would you recommend, I can get EZ loader and Shoreland'r easily here in Canada

3) there are no side or bow rails on her... pros and cons (besides $$$) to adding them as a retrofit?

4) while out on the west coast I salmon fished in one, and it had Scotty downriggers attached to the side rails... is this safe? need to stiffen them for safety? (read: not having riggers fall overboard with me diving after them)

B Bear posted 09-16-2001 11:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Congratulations, I am guessing that the 17 Standard is the Montauk 17.

Not to be critical, but "WhalerGuy" part of your nick does not bring up a good image to mind. Thanks to " The Whaler Guy" found in the Marketplace forum. I almost thought it was a joke.

Your questions would be better answered by those members that have the same hull as you would.

I know there are some members that have Montauks out there with Honda 90's on them. In fact BobNH just bought a new Montauk with one. I have a Honda 90 and am very pleased with it.

You might find some information on bow rails, cost, installation, part numbers and locations in the other forums. I know it might take some time to look through all the past threads, but you will never know what jewel of information you might find interesting.

The same advice will go for the trailer in the Performance forum, keel roller/ lateral support bunk configuration.

Welcome,
Bear

JBCornwell posted 09-17-2001 12:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Ahoy, NewWhalerGuy. I remember how excited I was when I got my first Whaler (1966, a new Sakonnet).

Because your boat is a sit-down boat, rather than a stand-up boat like the Montauk, I think that the speed and weight of the Honda 90 might be a bit much, but a 50 would be definitely the minimum even for Great Granpas like me. You would probably be happier with a 70. I have a 70 (Suzuki DF70 4stroke) on my 1980 Montauk and it is plenty fast (cruises at 30-33 and WOT at 35-38). A 90 would give you a top end of around 43-46 with the perfect prop.

The answers to your other questions depend too much on your usage and preferences for anyone but you to answer.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Dick posted 09-17-2001 08:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Congratulations

I have a 1999 17 Montauk with a Merc 50/4 stroke. It tops out at 32 with a load of about 500 pounds. There have been a few time when the lake was flat that a little more speed would have been fun, but overall I am happy with the combination.

I was working for the dealer when I put my rig together and we carried both E-Z Load and Shorelander. I went with the Shorelander. A little more money but a much nicer trailer.

I run Scotty downriggers on my side rails and when installed properly there is no or very little strain on the rails. Be happy to send you some pictures if you would like.

Dick

dgp posted 09-17-2001 11:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Does your Standard have the optional side console or does it require a tiller operated outboard? It makes a difference since not all engines can be tiller operated.
Whalerdan posted 09-18-2001 04:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
Hey jimh, do you have any pictures of 17 standards with tiller steering. To me those would seem like great setups nice and simple yet with good deck space.
Andy Holmes posted 09-26-2001 06:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Andy Holmes  Send Email to Andy Holmes     
Hi:

I have a 1998 Standard with 75 HP merc 2-stroke. I think this is the perfect engine for this hull. Cruise is about 32 MPH (GPS) running at 4200 RPM. Max is about 43 MPH at WOT.

My boat came with side rails and I have since installed a montauk bow rail and Mills bimini top. I bought the bow rail through the local whaler dealer (426.00 + 50.00 shipping + tax) this was quite a bit less than the quote I got from the OEM supplier listed on this site - they wanted 682 + shipping + tax. The bimini top I got directly from Mills.

I had posted a question about 2 months ago regarding the bow rail installation and got excellent advice from Tom Clark. Check the repair/mod section of this forum and you will see it. I followed his procedure and am very pleased with the results.

I think you will be happy with the standard vs. the Montauk. I was looking for a montauk when I found this one and it is a much better boat for me (seating mainly - we have 4 kids).

Regards,

Andy

lhg posted 09-27-2001 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
This summer, near Pointe au Baril, on Georgian Bay, Ontario Canada, I saw a beautiful 1997 15 Standard. Who ever owned it knew their Classic Whalers. It had been upgraded with CMI side and bow rails, and all of the starboard had been replaced with varnished mahogany. The original CPD fiberglass steering console remained. It was very nice, a new version of an old classic!

You can always tell a "standard" model because they all have an unusual tan color.

whalernut posted 09-30-2001 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I have a 1973 `16 Currituck, sit down model with the cosole and side-rails. I wouldn`t trade it for any Montauk in the world! The Montauk has very little available space in side amd mine has gobs of room. It is very stable and is such an awsome fishing platform! Congratulations on you`re purchase! Regards-Jack Graner.

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