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Crackerjack posted 05-28-2002 10:28 PM ET (US)
I just purchased 1992 23 Walk Around and am looking for some general information on the boat. It surveyed well with minimal flaws, but am finding very little information. Any help is greatly appreciated. It is an awesome looking boat!
Dick posted 05-28-2002 11:13 PM ET (US)
Crackerjack
I have a 1993 brochure showing the 23 Walkaround. I'll scan the pages and e-mail them to you if you would like.
Let me know.
Dick
Crackerjack posted 05-30-2002 05:44 PM ET (US)
That'd be great, Dick. Do you know if the specs are the same? Thanks for the help!
JACKSOBO posted 05-30-2002 08:04 PM ET (US)
Crackerjack
I bought a 1992 23WA last fall and received an owners manual in cherry condition. If you send me your address I will copy the manual and send it to you. The manual covers all the systems on your boat. JACKSOBO
Crackerjack posted 05-30-2002 09:26 PM ET (US)
Jacksobo, my address is :
Capt. Keith Kelley [Address deleted] Thanks for the help!!
Dick posted 05-30-2002 11:05 PM ET (US)
Crackerjack
The scan of the brochure is on it's way.
Dick
DCPeters posted 05-31-2002 10:12 PM ET (US)
Hi, Dick. Could you send the scanned brochure to me also. I would appreciate seeing it.
Today I looked at a 23 WA. Saw a few things that were curious to me.
I'd be interested in hearing from you folks who have this hull about performance and things to look for.
Dick posted 05-31-2002 11:27 PM ET (US)
DCPeters
It's on the way. The scan of the 3 pages is in color and a little long and about 6 min to download.
The only WA I I have ever run was a 25 Revenge WA that I sold in the mid 80s, loved it.
Dick
Maine whaler posted 06-03-2002 06:36 AM ET (US)
There is a 23 walkaround with a diesel I/O listed in Soundings. I didn't know you could get an I/O 23. Anybody know anything about this model?
Maine whaler posted 06-05-2002 09:41 PM ET (US)
I hate to be a pain, but could you send me a scan as well? My e mail address is sculver@hannaford.com. I have looked at the 21 but it is too small for my needs. I have not been able to find a 23 close by to check out. Thanks alot.
Dick posted 06-05-2002 10:53 PM ET (US)
Maine Whaler
They are on the way.
Dick
Maine whaler posted 06-07-2002 12:51 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the scans!! Do those of you who own the boat experience the unstable performance that has been written about the boat in the past? Could it be confined to the whaler drive models?
DaveW posted 06-16-2002 10:35 PM ET (US)
Hey guys, I have a 92 23WA that I am just about throught restoring. It is the greatest whaler ever.I also have the original owners manual that is like a typed up term paper--pretty funny. I just had a half tower built and installed all the electronics myself. These are rare so don't be afraid to put some money into it. Do you have some specific questions about the boat or are you looking for general info? I am pretty new to this forum so I need a littl ehelp with pictures. Can you post them with messages or do they have to be submitted to the Cetaecea page?
Tell me about your 23? My was a salmon fishing boat out of Washington and had some pretty hard hours. She has a 1996 Merc 225 which is great power for that boat. 180 gal fuel, marine head, sink etc. Advise on picture posting and I will get after it.
Dave
msc posted 06-18-2002 08:39 PM ET (US)
I purchased a 23 WA new in 1992 and kept it for 4 years. I have said it many times...I think it was the prettiest hull ever to wear the whaler logo. It was designed by Peter Van Lanker who had formerly been with Black Watch and featured the upswept shear line common to those boats (and one I always admired). The only boat I ever took pictures of.
Seabrook posted 06-25-2002 02:48 PM ET (US)
I don't have a picture of the 23 WA, but I do have several of the 1991 21 WA. They look almost exactly the same. Same overall shape that looks as much like a sportfisher as it does a walkaround. They are beautiful boats and BIG for their length. Even the 21' is 8'6" wide and has a BIG bow. Click on the below link to find the pics of the 21 I have.
http://members.fishingworks.com/Seabrook/photos.cfm
It is also listed for sale on the Marketplace section of this site. Mint condition with 1995 225 Merc, runs 50+ MPH. Asking $21,500 and looking for bids.
nickrnm posted 07-18-2004 10:44 PM ET (US)
[This article and ones that follow are posted in 2004.] I just bought a 1993 23' Walkaround today. The original owner must have lost the manuals so I am looking for any information and/or manuals I can get on the boat. I tried BW but they only go back to 1996 or so. Would anyone know where I can get an owners manual or spec sheet on the boat? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
nickrnm
phoeker posted 07-19-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)
Gents -
I own a 92 23' Walkaround and will help answer any questions that I can. I have noticed that many past and present 23 owners have responded and you'll find no better source of info from these guys unless of course you happen to have friends in high places. One such friend that I have, (also a member of this forum) worked as a technical editor @ Boating Magazine (Yes, the one with HQ in NYC), and tested the 23 when it first came out and he provided insight and technical knowledge only a professional could supply. I even have a copy of the original article if anyone's interested, and would thank him here by name but he's a shy bugger so I won't do that.
I have a 23 w/o bracket so I'll only report on what I know about this model. Having also owned a 21' Walkaround in the late 90s let me first say that while both are very good vessels, the 23 (1600 pounds heavier, twice the fuel capacity, much larger cuddy) is substantially larger than the 2' difference as listed on paper might imply.
While I would only take the 21 on coastal / near shore trips, the 23 is well suited to running offshore. I know this because I regularly run 45 miles out into the Gulf to our 100-fathom curve and fish amongst the battlewagons, yes Berts, Hatts, etc. I only do this when the weather window appears very favorable with ZERO % chance of T-storms and I will also add that I am not always peaceful at mind when I'm so far offshore in a boat this size. However,I do feel a little better when I see our Mexican brethren running around just as far offshore in their 22' Panga boats with 70 HP Yamahas and multiple 20 gallon jugs of fuel. I do not feel better knowing that they are illegally fishing in US waters but hey, that's another story.
This past Saturday we ran to the Canyon with a forecast of 2-3s. The forecasters were a little off, with seas running 3-4. Not too bad, but enough to provide a typical test of the boat. Our winds here in S. Texas are predominantly from the SE this time of year so we have a nice little head sea for the ride out, then a nice little following sea for the ride home. I did research this forum before buying my boat also, and did notice the comments from someone who said the 23 had to be the worst handling Whaler ever built. I do not agree with that statement. Following seas present their own challenges but I have never felt out of control when running in these conditions. After all, it is only a 23 footer (or if you like to stretch the the truth when selling, a 25, or yes even a 27 as I have seen some sellers (Brokers) market the boat on Boattraderonline.)
I have a single Yamaha Z250 with a 9.9HT kicker. On a very nice day offshore I can average over 2mpg cruising. On a poor day that # gets cut to 1.5 mpg. On a very nice day on the bay however I have seen 3 mpg. Top speed varies from 38-40mph, while the boat cruises @ 24-29 @ about 3800-4200 RPMs. Time-to-plane is about 4 seconds.
All-in-all, a very good rig. The motor, however, is a different story, one that should be told, but I'm feeling good now thinking about my boat and do not want to sour my mood.
Over& Out,
Capt. Phil

whaler23 posted 07-20-2004 08:55 PM ET (US)
I also own a 92 23WA. Mine has the whaler drive. I also have an owners manual for this boat, and am happy to copy and forward, let me know. Great boat overall. Mine is currently for sale. See link in Marketplace to pictures. So far no bites. I finally pulled the cockpit deck covering the belly tank due to a soft spot in the forward port section. Quite a job replacing the plywood underneath. And I would swear this piece alone weighs 200 pounds. Boat is only tricky handling in quartering seas. Superior in head on conditions.
gimcrack225 posted 07-20-2004 10:44 PM ET (US)
I have a manual from 1991 that covers all the Walkarounds. If you can't find one, I will copy it for you.
Karl
gimcrack225 posted 07-20-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)
In my opinion, concerning handling, the Walkarounds, a deep-vee hull, are about as far from the Montauk cathedral hull as you can get. It is a different kind of compromise. If you consider the Montauk to be the standard you many be surprised with the handling a Walkaround or any other deep-vee hull. The same powerful bow that cushions the boats entry with its boyancy, can also act as sort of a forward pointing rudder when it hits waves or chop at an uneven angle causing what is called bow steer. I discovered it the first time I was zig-zagging through the wake from other boats.
In calm water the Walkaround will coast for about 150 feet when I shift into neutral, my Montauk would basically stop when you took away power. What it boils down to is its a completely different kind of boat that happens to be made by BW.
Congratulations on your new boat.
jimh posted 07-21-2004 07:33 AM ET (US)
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Author	Topic: c.1992 23 Walk Around
Crackerjack	posted 05-28-2002 10:28 PM ET (US) I just purchased 1992 23 Walk Around and am looking for some general information on the boat. It surveyed well with minimal flaws, but am finding very little information. Any help is greatly appreciated. It is an awesome looking boat!
Dick	posted 05-28-2002 11:13 PM ET (US) Crackerjack I have a 1993 brochure showing the 23 Walkaround. I'll scan the pages and e-mail them to you if you would like. Let me know. Dick
Crackerjack	posted 05-30-2002 05:44 PM ET (US) That'd be great, Dick. Do you know if the specs are the same? Thanks for the help!
JACKSOBO	posted 05-30-2002 08:04 PM ET (US) Crackerjack I bought a 1992 23WA last fall and received an owners manual in cherry condition. If you send me your address I will copy the manual and send it to you. The manual covers all the systems on your boat. JACKSOBO
Crackerjack	posted 05-30-2002 09:26 PM ET (US) Jacksobo, my address is : Capt. Keith Kelley [Address deleted] Thanks for the help!!
Dick	posted 05-30-2002 11:05 PM ET (US) Crackerjack The scan of the brochure is on it's way. Dick
DCPeters	posted 05-31-2002 10:12 PM ET (US) Hi, Dick. Could you send the scanned brochure to me also. I would appreciate seeing it. Today I looked at a 23 WA. Saw a few things that were curious to me. I'd be interested in hearing from you folks who have this hull about performance and things to look for.
Dick	posted 05-31-2002 11:27 PM ET (US) DCPeters It's on the way. The scan of the 3 pages is in color and a little long and about 6 min to download. The only WA I I have ever run was a 25 Revenge WA that I sold in the mid 80s, loved it. Dick
Maine whaler	posted 06-03-2002 06:36 AM ET (US) There is a 23 walkaround with a diesel I/O listed in Soundings. I didn't know you could get an I/O 23. Anybody know anything about this model?
Maine whaler	posted 06-05-2002 09:41 PM ET (US) I hate to be a pain, but could you send me a scan as well? My e mail address is sculver@hannaford.com. I have looked at the 21 but it is too small for my needs. I have not been able to find a 23 close by to check out. Thanks alot.
Dick	posted 06-05-2002 10:53 PM ET (US) Maine Whaler They are on the way. Dick
Maine whaler	posted 06-07-2002 12:51 PM ET (US) Thanks for the scans!! Do those of you who own the boat experience the unstable performance that has been written about the boat in the past? Could it be confined to the whaler drive models?
DaveW	posted 06-16-2002 10:35 PM ET (US) Hey guys, I have a 92 23WA that I am just about throught restoring. It is the greatest whaler ever.I also have the original owners manual that is like a typed up term paper--pretty funny. I just had a half tower built and installed all the electronics myself. These are rare so don't be afraid to put some money into it. Do you have some specific questions about the boat or are you looking for general info? I am pretty new to this forum so I need a littl ehelp with pictures. Can you post them with messages or do they have to be submitted to the Cetaecea page? Tell me about your 23? My was a salmon fishing boat out of Washington and had some pretty hard hours. She has a 1996 Merc 225 which is great power for that boat. 180 gal fuel, marine head, sink etc. Advise on picture posting and I will get after it. Dave
msc	posted 06-18-2002 08:39 PM ET (US) I purchased a 23 WA new in 1992 and kept it for 4 years. I have said it many times...I think it was the prettiest hull ever to wear the whaler logo. It was designed by Peter Van Lanker who had formerly been with Black Watch and featured the upswept shear line common to those boats (and one I always admired). The only boat I ever took pictures of.
Seabrook	posted 06-25-2002 02:48 PM ET (US) I don't have a picture of the 23 WA, but I do have several of the 1991 21 WA. They look almost exactly the same. Same overall shape that looks as much like a sportfisher as it does a walkaround. They are beautiful boats and BIG for their length. Even the 21' is 8'6" wide and has a BIG bow. Click on the below link to find the pics of the 21 I have. http://members.fishingworks.com/Seabrook/photos.cfm It is also listed for sale on the Marketplace section of this site. Mint condition with 1995 225 Merc, runs 50+ MPH. Asking $21,500 and looking for bids.
nickrnm	posted 07-18-2004 10:44 PM ET (US) [This article and ones that follow are posted in 2004.] I just bought a 1993 23' Walkaround today. The original owner must have lost the manuals so I am looking for any information and/or manuals I can get on the boat. I tried BW but they only go back to 1996 or so. Would anyone know where I can get an owners manual or spec sheet on the boat? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, nickrnm
phoeker	posted 07-19-2004 08:07 PM ET (US) Gents - I own a 92 23' Walkaround and will help answer any questions that I can. I have noticed that many past and present 23 owners have responded and you'll find no better source of info from these guys unless of course you happen to have friends in high places. One such friend that I have, (also a member of this forum) worked as a technical editor @ Boating Magazine (Yes, the one with HQ in NYC), and tested the 23 when it first came out and he provided insight and technical knowledge only a professional could supply. I even have a copy of the original article if anyone's interested, and would thank him here by name but he's a shy bugger so I won't do that. I have a 23 w/o bracket so I'll only report on what I know about this model. Having also owned a 21' Walkaround in the late 90s let me first say that while both are very good vessels, the 23 (1600 pounds heavier, twice the fuel capacity, much larger cuddy) is substantially larger than the 2' difference as listed on paper might imply. While I would only take the 21 on coastal / near shore trips, the 23 is well suited to running offshore. I know this because I regularly run 45 miles out into the Gulf to our 100-fathom curve and fish amongst the battlewagons, yes Berts, Hatts, etc. I only do this when the weather window appears very favorable with ZERO % chance of T-storms and I will also add that I am not always peaceful at mind when I'm so far offshore in a boat this size. However,I do feel a little better when I see our Mexican brethren running around just as far offshore in their 22' Panga boats with 70 HP Yamahas and multiple 20 gallon jugs of fuel. I do not feel better knowing that they are illegally fishing in US waters but hey, that's another story. This past Saturday we ran to the Canyon with a forecast of 2-3s. The forecasters were a little off, with seas running 3-4. Not too bad, but enough to provide a typical test of the boat. Our winds here in S. Texas are predominantly from the SE this time of year so we have a nice little head sea for the ride out, then a nice little following sea for the ride home. I did research this forum before buying my boat also, and did notice the comments from someone who said the 23 had to be the worst handling Whaler ever built. I do not agree with that statement. Following seas present their own challenges but I have never felt out of control when running in these conditions. After all, it is only a 23 footer (or if you like to stretch the the truth when selling, a 25, or yes even a 27 as I have seen some sellers (Brokers) market the boat on Boattraderonline.) I have a single Yamaha Z250 with a 9.9HT kicker. On a very nice day offshore I can average over 2mpg cruising. On a poor day that # gets cut to 1.5 mpg. On a very nice day on the bay however I have seen 3 mpg. Top speed varies from 38-40mph, while the boat cruises @ 24-29 @ about 3800-4200 RPMs. Time-to-plane is about 4 seconds. All-in-all, a very good rig. The motor, however, is a different story, one that should be told, but I'm feeling good now thinking about my boat and do not want to sour my mood. Over& Out, Capt. Phil
whaler23	posted 07-20-2004 08:55 PM ET (US) I also own a 92 23WA. Mine has the whaler drive. I also have an owners manual for this boat, and am happy to copy and forward, let me know. Great boat overall. Mine is currently for sale. See link in Marketplace to pictures. So far no bites. I finally pulled the cockpit deck covering the belly tank due to a soft spot in the forward port section. Quite a job replacing the plywood underneath. And I would swear this piece alone weighs 200 pounds. Boat is only tricky handling in quartering seas. Superior in head on conditions.
gimcrack225	posted 07-20-2004 10:44 PM ET (US) I have a manual from 1991 that covers all the Walkarounds. If you can't find one, I will copy it for you. Karl
gimcrack225	posted 07-20-2004 11:15 PM ET (US) In my opinion, concerning handling, the Walkarounds, a deep-vee hull, are about as far from the Montauk cathedral hull as you can get. It is a different kind of compromise. If you consider the Montauk to be the standard you many be surprised with the handling a Walkaround or any other deep-vee hull. The same powerful bow that cushions the boats entry with its boyancy, can also act as sort of a forward pointing rudder when it hits waves or chop at an uneven angle causing what is called bow steer. I discovered it the first time I was zig-zagging through the wake from other boats. In calm water the Walkaround will coast for about 150 feet when I shift into neutral, my Montauk would basically stop when you took away power. What it boils down to is its a completely different kind of boat that happens to be made by BW. Congratulations on your new boat.
jimh	posted 07-21-2004 07:33 AM ET (US) [Administrative post]