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boxers posted 03-07-2003 12:23 AM ET (US)
I needed a couple parts but wasn't sure if any dealers were discounting from the list price. For motors there seem to be many sources-how about whaler specific items...any suggestions?
boxers posted 03-11-2003 09:34 PM ET (US)
Does everyone pay list? Any mail order discounts?
hooter posted 03-12-2003 10:23 AM ET (US)
As they say, "You gotta pay t'play in this game." The dearth of replies to your earlier post speaks volumes. Whaler and the dealers have a lock on branded parts. After many years of tradin' with the same gal behind the parts counter at our local Whaler dealer, ever’ now and then, if she's got some ancient inventory Ah'm lookin' for, she might offer me a break. Otherwise, it's list price, Pal. Good luck.
Bigshot posted 03-12-2003 11:20 AM ET (US)
That is why a beat up bow chock on E-bay fetches $160 or whatever. Parts are not cheap or readily available. Stuff like rail T's and steering parts etc can be found anywhere for cheaper. If you need a bow chock, RPS leg, etc, you gonna pay out the....
jimh posted 03-12-2003 01:49 PM ET (US)
The expression is "pay through the nose" and it is a perfectly polite one. It's been in use in English since the late 17th Century.
Bigshot posted 03-12-2003 03:33 PM ET (US)
I was not sure if it was nose or ear so I left it blank.
witsendfl posted 03-12-2003 04:51 PM ET (US)
BOXERS,
Is there a problem with paying list ? Do you know how much of a markup or GPM there is on Boston Whaler Products ? You own a 98 Limited 13 footer, What did you pay for that ? I am sure it did not come cheap. I have seen asking prices in those in excess of $8000 USED. I think that that asking price is crazy. A sucker is born everyday ! It is all in how you interpret value in what you have paid for a item. My suggestion is to put out a request for the needed parts that you need or want and see what you get.
Sometimes you gotta pay..
witsendfl JimK
boxers posted 03-12-2003 08:36 PM ET (US)
Hooter, I was able to come up with a ski pilon brand new for $80.00 from a dealer. In this case I paid half of retail price. I guess the stuff that has been sitting around MAY get discounted like you mentioned. As for other parts, I have been looking for a pedestal leaning post for our OR-20 BW part# 1061324. It was an option on the OR-17 and OR-21 too. I may just start calling around to various dealers the see if they have left over one in stock. If I order it from a BW dealer: then as others mentioned it won't come cheap due to a paucity of supply.
boxers posted 03-12-2003 08:40 PM ET (US)
Hooter, I was able to come up with a ski pilon brand new for $80.00 from a dealer. In this case I paid half of retail price. I guess the stuff that has been sitting around MAY get discounted like you mentioned. As for other parts, I have been looking for a pedestal leaning post for our OR-20 BW part# 1061324. It was an option on the OR-17 and OR-21 too. I may just start calling around to various dealers the see if they have left over one in stock. If I order it from a BW dealer: then as others mentioned it won't come cheap due to a paucity of supply.
Bigshot posted 03-13-2003 11:19 AM ET (US)
I highly doubt any dealers are gonna be sitting (no pun inteneded) on a leaning post. That would be an order as needed part.
witsendfl posted 03-13-2003 03:58 PM ET (US)
The purpose of being a dealer is to "MAKE MONEY" We cannot all be dealers ! A dealer may be so inclinded to give you a disc of 10% as a boat customer, but do not expect them to sell to you for what they paid for it, especially in todays "order on demand" type situations. Things cost money and dealers have a tremendous amount of capital tied up in a dealership. Get yourself a good deal but consider yourself lucky to get stuff at "COST"
witsendfl JimK
Bigshot posted 03-13-2003 04:06 PM ET (US)
He is not an idiot. We all know they need to make money to stay in business, he just wanted to know who sells parts UNDER list.
witsendfl posted 03-14-2003 04:44 PM ET (US)
Nick,
Thanks for the "INTERNET ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT"
My claim is simple and to the point. Support your "LOCAL" dealer and he will support you. In the case of older, out of production parts I see no problem seeking those parts out from wherever. Saving a few bucks buying long distance does'nt make much sence when shipping is backed into the price. Boston Whaler parts have to be bought at a dealer not "DISCOUNT Whalerparts.com.org.mit.whatever..."
Giving a dealer your retail business will help when you have a question or a need problem fixed with a service related issue.
There was no mention of the BOXERS being a idiot. Some people do not understand what it takes to stay in business. I am sure the business you are in relies alot on referrals. If you help someone out a jam I am sure you are repayed 10 times over
witsendfl JimK
SuburbanBoy posted 03-17-2003 11:57 AM ET (US)
I suspect witsendfl is one of the rare BW dealers. He has a right to maximize his personal profit. I believe that he feels the customers are lucky that he is willing to sell (or order) the part(s). If he can flourish with that tude' more power to him. There is not a dealer within 75 miles of my home, and I live on the southern shore of Lake Michigan. I don't think they all went out of business because they discounted BW boats and parts. I welcome the ability to order parts via phone or internet. Without this remote availability I would be sunk (so to speak). I reward those who help me out, whether by providing great service or competitive pricing, or hopefully, both. Good luck boxers in your quest.
sub
witsendfl posted 03-17-2003 04:00 PM ET (US)
SuburbanBoy,
No, I am not a dealer, as my profile shows. Maybe someday I will have that opportunity presented to me. But with alot of experience behind me working for and promotiing dealerships I can say that many people do not have a clue of how expensive it is to operate one. Unless you are a current Brunswick dealer of some sort I cannot ever see the small dealer becoming a BW dealer.
The attitude that you speak of probably is portrayed in a different manner on the internet. I always try to find a way to make it work for the customer no matter what there request is, if I can't make it work I make sure I know where they can get a answer or there problem fixed.
After selling numberous boats, customers seem to want "FREE" extra stuff just because they have spent "X" amount of dollars on a new piece of equipment. A profitable deal can go south real quick when FREE extras are thrown in.
Showing your local dealer your financial support will get you alot farther than trying to talk him down or shopping miles away from him, then going back to him with questions on installation or parts. BW like other manufactuers of boats only allow dealers to order parts. Parts are only one way a dealer remains profitable.
Sorry if the so called "ATTITUDE" caught you off guard. Believe me I am here to help.

witsendfl JimK
Swellmonster posted 03-17-2003 04:56 PM ET (US)
I get a little discount where I bought my boat.
Paying through the nose? Mikael Jackson really got ripped off! :'D
Did you ever wonder when you see a person missing a limb if they paid an arm and a leg for something?
Lighten up Yall!
boxers posted 03-17-2003 10:56 PM ET (US)
I recently had my local dealer do a motor swap and trimtabs. Wonderful job by nice folks. I did notice that certain parts were very expensive that they sold. I was going to purchase a horn button and found it was listed 50% over the manufactures suggested list retail price. A yamaha gadge was also listed 50% over yamahas retail price. Needles to say I furnished these items myself. When I asked the mechanic if they would just match the price he said get it yourself it might piss them (the parts dept.) off if you suggest having them change a price.
witsendfl-sounds like I pissed you off too...

According to you I am a "sucker" for owning a 98 limited 13 footer. Why don't you back off the attitude...I have never seen anyone attacked for the model whaler they own...If you come across like this in your business then your customers percieve you as others on this post-unpleasent to say the least!

I like our local BW dealership and everyone I have met there but was concerned if I ordered the leaning post it might be more expensive from them. This is how the post started folks.
Most here seem to agree that supporting your local Boston Whaler is the way to go whenever possable...but want it to be reciprocal in that the dealer recognizes the value of a loyal customer!
witsendfl posted 03-18-2003 08:22 AM ET (US)
boxers,
Hopefully you read the last line of my last post. A little more detail especially about the dealer attempting to sell way above retail would have added alot to the post. I don't blame you a bit for trying to shop elsewhere. I would be upset myself. That kind of stuff could be reported to the manufactuer. I was reporting a general reponse to all and not directed soley at you.
Hope you find what you need
witsendfl JimK
Bigshot posted 03-18-2003 04:18 PM ET (US)
50% markup.....I would find another dealer. MSRP is just that, manufacturers SUGGESTED retail price. Many dealers do not follow that rule like Harley Dealers, Whaler, and Mercedes(new SL models,etc) and will charge what the market will pay. As for parts, that is ridiculous. If I called my Whaler dealer for a yamaha tach and he wanted $300 and the Wellcraft/Yammie dealer had it for $200 and that was list, I would throw a hissie fit at the Whaler dealer.

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Author	Topic: Can you buy new BW parts below list price?
boxers	posted 03-07-2003 12:23 AM ET (US) I needed a couple parts but wasn't sure if any dealers were discounting from the list price. For motors there seem to be many sources-how about whaler specific items...any suggestions?
boxers	posted 03-11-2003 09:34 PM ET (US) Does everyone pay list? Any mail order discounts?
hooter	posted 03-12-2003 10:23 AM ET (US) As they say, "You gotta pay t'play in this game." The dearth of replies to your earlier post speaks volumes. Whaler and the dealers have a lock on branded parts. After many years of tradin' with the same gal behind the parts counter at our local Whaler dealer, ever’ now and then, if she's got some ancient inventory Ah'm lookin' for, she might offer me a break. Otherwise, it's list price, Pal. Good luck.
Bigshot	posted 03-12-2003 11:20 AM ET (US) That is why a beat up bow chock on E-bay fetches $160 or whatever. Parts are not cheap or readily available. Stuff like rail T's and steering parts etc can be found anywhere for cheaper. If you need a bow chock, RPS leg, etc, you gonna pay out the....
jimh	posted 03-12-2003 01:49 PM ET (US) The expression is "pay through the nose" and it is a perfectly polite one. It's been in use in English since the late 17th Century.
Bigshot	posted 03-12-2003 03:33 PM ET (US) I was not sure if it was nose or ear so I left it blank.
witsendfl	posted 03-12-2003 04:51 PM ET (US) BOXERS, Is there a problem with paying list ? Do you know how much of a markup or GPM there is on Boston Whaler Products ? You own a 98 Limited 13 footer, What did you pay for that ? I am sure it did not come cheap. I have seen asking prices in those in excess of $8000 USED. I think that that asking price is crazy. A sucker is born everyday ! It is all in how you interpret value in what you have paid for a item. My suggestion is to put out a request for the needed parts that you need or want and see what you get. Sometimes you gotta pay.. witsendfl JimK
boxers	posted 03-12-2003 08:36 PM ET (US) Hooter, I was able to come up with a ski pilon brand new for $80.00 from a dealer. In this case I paid half of retail price. I guess the stuff that has been sitting around MAY get discounted like you mentioned. As for other parts, I have been looking for a pedestal leaning post for our OR-20 BW part# 1061324. It was an option on the OR-17 and OR-21 too. I may just start calling around to various dealers the see if they have left over one in stock. If I order it from a BW dealer: then as others mentioned it won't come cheap due to a paucity of supply.
boxers	posted 03-12-2003 08:40 PM ET (US) Hooter, I was able to come up with a ski pilon brand new for $80.00 from a dealer. In this case I paid half of retail price. I guess the stuff that has been sitting around MAY get discounted like you mentioned. As for other parts, I have been looking for a pedestal leaning post for our OR-20 BW part# 1061324. It was an option on the OR-17 and OR-21 too. I may just start calling around to various dealers the see if they have left over one in stock. If I order it from a BW dealer: then as others mentioned it won't come cheap due to a paucity of supply.
Bigshot	posted 03-13-2003 11:19 AM ET (US) I highly doubt any dealers are gonna be sitting (no pun inteneded) on a leaning post. That would be an order as needed part.
witsendfl	posted 03-13-2003 03:58 PM ET (US) The purpose of being a dealer is to "MAKE MONEY" We cannot all be dealers ! A dealer may be so inclinded to give you a disc of 10% as a boat customer, but do not expect them to sell to you for what they paid for it, especially in todays "order on demand" type situations. Things cost money and dealers have a tremendous amount of capital tied up in a dealership. Get yourself a good deal but consider yourself lucky to get stuff at "COST" witsendfl JimK
Bigshot	posted 03-13-2003 04:06 PM ET (US) He is not an idiot. We all know they need to make money to stay in business, he just wanted to know who sells parts UNDER list.
witsendfl	posted 03-14-2003 04:44 PM ET (US) Nick, Thanks for the "INTERNET ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT" My claim is simple and to the point. Support your "LOCAL" dealer and he will support you. In the case of older, out of production parts I see no problem seeking those parts out from wherever. Saving a few bucks buying long distance does'nt make much sence when shipping is backed into the price. Boston Whaler parts have to be bought at a dealer not "DISCOUNT Whalerparts.com.org.mit.whatever..." Giving a dealer your retail business will help when you have a question or a need problem fixed with a service related issue. There was no mention of the BOXERS being a idiot. Some people do not understand what it takes to stay in business. I am sure the business you are in relies alot on referrals. If you help someone out a jam I am sure you are repayed 10 times over witsendfl JimK
SuburbanBoy	posted 03-17-2003 11:57 AM ET (US) I suspect witsendfl is one of the rare BW dealers. He has a right to maximize his personal profit. I believe that he feels the customers are lucky that he is willing to sell (or order) the part(s). If he can flourish with that tude' more power to him. There is not a dealer within 75 miles of my home, and I live on the southern shore of Lake Michigan. I don't think they all went out of business because they discounted BW boats and parts. I welcome the ability to order parts via phone or internet. Without this remote availability I would be sunk (so to speak). I reward those who help me out, whether by providing great service or competitive pricing, or hopefully, both. Good luck boxers in your quest. sub
witsendfl	posted 03-17-2003 04:00 PM ET (US) SuburbanBoy, No, I am not a dealer, as my profile shows. Maybe someday I will have that opportunity presented to me. But with alot of experience behind me working for and promotiing dealerships I can say that many people do not have a clue of how expensive it is to operate one. Unless you are a current Brunswick dealer of some sort I cannot ever see the small dealer becoming a BW dealer. The attitude that you speak of probably is portrayed in a different manner on the internet. I always try to find a way to make it work for the customer no matter what there request is, if I can't make it work I make sure I know where they can get a answer or there problem fixed. After selling numberous boats, customers seem to want "FREE" extra stuff just because they have spent "X" amount of dollars on a new piece of equipment. A profitable deal can go south real quick when FREE extras are thrown in. Showing your local dealer your financial support will get you alot farther than trying to talk him down or shopping miles away from him, then going back to him with questions on installation or parts. BW like other manufactuers of boats only allow dealers to order parts. Parts are only one way a dealer remains profitable. Sorry if the so called "ATTITUDE" caught you off guard. Believe me I am here to help. witsendfl JimK
Swellmonster	posted 03-17-2003 04:56 PM ET (US) I get a little discount where I bought my boat. Paying through the nose? Mikael Jackson really got ripped off! :'D Did you ever wonder when you see a person missing a limb if they paid an arm and a leg for something? Lighten up Yall!
boxers	posted 03-17-2003 10:56 PM ET (US) I recently had my local dealer do a motor swap and trimtabs. Wonderful job by nice folks. I did notice that certain parts were very expensive that they sold. I was going to purchase a horn button and found it was listed 50% over the manufactures suggested list retail price. A yamaha gadge was also listed 50% over yamahas retail price. Needles to say I furnished these items myself. When I asked the mechanic if they would just match the price he said get it yourself it might piss them (the parts dept.) off if you suggest having them change a price. witsendfl-sounds like I pissed you off too... According to you I am a "sucker" for owning a 98 limited 13 footer. Why don't you back off the attitude...I have never seen anyone attacked for the model whaler they own...If you come across like this in your business then your customers percieve you as others on this post-unpleasent to say the least! I like our local BW dealership and everyone I have met there but was concerned if I ordered the leaning post it might be more expensive from them. This is how the post started folks. Most here seem to agree that supporting your local Boston Whaler is the way to go whenever possable...but want it to be reciprocal in that the dealer recognizes the value of a loyal customer!
witsendfl	posted 03-18-2003 08:22 AM ET (US) boxers, Hopefully you read the last line of my last post. A little more detail especially about the dealer attempting to sell way above retail would have added alot to the post. I don't blame you a bit for trying to shop elsewhere. I would be upset myself. That kind of stuff could be reported to the manufactuer. I was reporting a general reponse to all and not directed soley at you. Hope you find what you need witsendfl JimK
Bigshot	posted 03-18-2003 04:18 PM ET (US) 50% markup.....I would find another dealer. MSRP is just that, manufacturers SUGGESTED retail price. Many dealers do not follow that rule like Harley Dealers, Whaler, and Mercedes(new SL models,etc) and will charge what the market will pay. As for parts, that is ridiculous. If I called my Whaler dealer for a yamaha tach and he wanted $300 and the Wellcraft/Yammie dealer had it for $200 and that was list, I would throw a hissie fit at the Whaler dealer.