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Holy Cow posted 07-04-2003 11:22 AM ET (US)
I just recently mounted a Gallick Transom mount to the back left side of the 170 new 2003 Montauk! As you see it from behind. Are those 4 four 5/16 " stainless thru bolts going to hold that 5 hp Four stroke 68 pound outboard? The two lower bolts came thru at the seat level and the other top bolts came thu about 3-4 inches below the top of the rub rail. Just needed to make sure that that PLYWOOD is there and will give support! HC
Jimm posted 07-04-2003 11:42 AM ET (US)
HC - check the papers that came with your boat. There should be a diagram of where the wood is located on YOUR boat.
whalersman posted 07-04-2003 01:46 PM ET (US)
This type of information is exactly what I am trying to gather, along with the HIN numbers of all Montauks, so we all have a little better understanding of what Whaler changed, and approximately when.
The early 170 did not have wood in the transom for Kicker Motors.
Still not positive which serial number of Montauk they started adding the wood for the kicker motor but check out the collection so far..
www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/drawings/montauk-hin.html
You will see the last Montauk added did have wood in the transom for the kicker...
Joe
jimh posted 07-04-2003 11:18 PM ET (US)
When the 170 MONTAUK first came out there was no embedded wood for mounting a trolling motor or an auxillary motor in the transom. This became the topic of much discussion here on the forum, with many participants expressing their interest in using auxillary engines for fishing and regretting the lack of such possibility with the new 170 MONTAUK.
See http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002275.html
Their voices were heard and shortly after the introduction the factory added an additional piece of embedded wood in the transom (starboard side) for the purpose of reinforcing the area for motor mounting.
On a boat athwartship directions are generally given in terms of port and starboard. Directions along the keel are normally give in terms of fore and aft. And locations related to which side of the hull are given in terms of inboard and outboard.

I think when your write "on the back left side...when seen from behind" your probably mean on the outboard face of the transom, port side. If that is correct, you should not have a problem as the port side of the transom was always reinforced, or at least that is how I interpret Whaler Drawing No. 1689605 (which prohibits reproduction without permission, and I do not have permission to reproduce).
That wood was intended to provide reinforcement for mounting an optional swim ladder.
Since you have already drilled and mounted the bracket, it is a moot point, but I think you will be fine.
[Also, changed topic; was "Just need to make sure!"]
Jimm posted 07-05-2003 09:57 AM ET (US)
The wood diagram that came with my Montauk 170 stated that on 7/12/02 part FF " (1-3/4" Ply [size]16-1/2" x 24-1/4") " was added. This is the piece of embedded wood in the transom (starboard side). The diagram further advised that on the same date - "(EE was 1/2" phenolic [size] 4" x 12")"; was changed to - 1-3/4" ply [size] 16-1/2 x 24-1/4. EE is the piece of embedded wood in the transom (port side).
Tom W Clark posted 07-05-2003 12:18 PM ET (US)
We do know which MT170 hull had the very first plywood reinforcement for a kicker motor. It is hull number BWCE0479G203 which was manufactured on July 12, 2002 and is owned by Rodger Teed of Vancouver, WA.

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Author	Topic: 170 MONTUAK Transom Wood Location
Holy Cow	posted 07-04-2003 11:22 AM ET (US) I just recently mounted a Gallick Transom mount to the back left side of the 170 new 2003 Montauk! As you see it from behind. Are those 4 four 5/16 " stainless thru bolts going to hold that 5 hp Four stroke 68 pound outboard? The two lower bolts came thru at the seat level and the other top bolts came thu about 3-4 inches below the top of the rub rail. Just needed to make sure that that PLYWOOD is there and will give support! HC
Jimm	posted 07-04-2003 11:42 AM ET (US) HC - check the papers that came with your boat. There should be a diagram of where the wood is located on YOUR boat.
whalersman	posted 07-04-2003 01:46 PM ET (US) This type of information is exactly what I am trying to gather, along with the HIN numbers of all Montauks, so we all have a little better understanding of what Whaler changed, and approximately when. The early 170 did not have wood in the transom for Kicker Motors. Still not positive which serial number of Montauk they started adding the wood for the kicker motor but check out the collection so far.. www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/drawings/montauk-hin.html You will see the last Montauk added did have wood in the transom for the kicker... Joe
jimh	posted 07-04-2003 11:18 PM ET (US) When the 170 MONTAUK first came out there was no embedded wood for mounting a trolling motor or an auxillary motor in the transom. This became the topic of much discussion here on the forum, with many participants expressing their interest in using auxillary engines for fishing and regretting the lack of such possibility with the new 170 MONTAUK. See http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002275.html Their voices were heard and shortly after the introduction the factory added an additional piece of embedded wood in the transom (starboard side) for the purpose of reinforcing the area for motor mounting. On a boat athwartship directions are generally given in terms of port and starboard. Directions along the keel are normally give in terms of fore and aft. And locations related to which side of the hull are given in terms of inboard and outboard. I think when your write "on the back left side...when seen from behind" your probably mean on the outboard face of the transom, port side. If that is correct, you should not have a problem as the port side of the transom was always reinforced, or at least that is how I interpret Whaler Drawing No. 1689605 (which prohibits reproduction without permission, and I do not have permission to reproduce). That wood was intended to provide reinforcement for mounting an optional swim ladder. Since you have already drilled and mounted the bracket, it is a moot point, but I think you will be fine. [Also, changed topic; was "Just need to make sure!"]
Jimm	posted 07-05-2003 09:57 AM ET (US) The wood diagram that came with my Montauk 170 stated that on 7/12/02 part FF " (1-3/4" Ply [size]16-1/2" x 24-1/4") " was added. This is the piece of embedded wood in the transom (starboard side). The diagram further advised that on the same date - "(EE was 1/2" phenolic [size] 4" x 12")"; was changed to - 1-3/4" ply [size] 16-1/2 x 24-1/4. EE is the piece of embedded wood in the transom (port side).
Tom W Clark	posted 07-05-2003 12:18 PM ET (US) We do know which MT170 hull had the very first plywood reinforcement for a kicker motor. It is hull number BWCE0479G203 which was manufactured on July 12, 2002 and is owned by Rodger Teed of Vancouver, WA.