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Nushlie posted 08-25-2003 04:03 PM ET (US)
Whaler Enthusiasts,
We are trying to decide on what we are going to do with our current boat which is a 1984 Montauk. We are debating on whether to keep it or sell it and get a new Montauk or a new 18' Dauntless.
It sounds like the new Montauks offer a somewhat more comfortable ride in rougher water than does our current Montauk. However, we are wondering if the 18' Dauntless is an even more comfortable and versatile boat than is the new Montauk.
It appears the Dauntless is significantly (approx $15,000 USD) more expensive than the Montauk, however, Whalers last for quite some time and we want to be sure to get the right one. Most of our boating is done on Lake Erie with some boating done in the Gulf.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Nushlie

ShrimpBurrito posted 08-25-2003 04:47 PM ET (US)
If you like the Dauntless, you might consider one that is 1-3 years old. You can get them for about the same price as a brand new Montauk 170. I saw one right here in Portland, Oregon, but it since sold: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002691.html
Jarhead posted 08-25-2003 07:31 PM ET (US)
If you look at the reasons you're thinking about trading in your old Whaler it should help with your decision.
If it's because you want a better ride, more storage, fuel capacity, live well, more HP and more room the Dauntless is the way to go.
But then again I might be the slightest bit prejudice. :)
AllanR posted 08-26-2003 08:33 AM ET (US)
You might want to check out the new Nantucket. Very good reports on this boat, and it is designed with a deeper "V" for a smoother ride than the Dauntless. The Dauntless looks like more of a family boat. But I don't believe it will ride as well as the Nantucket. But they are both in the same price range.
13DAUNTLESS posted 11-08-2003 11:30 AM ET (US)
Has anyone out there owned an 18 Dauntless and a 170 Montauk? I had my heart set on a new 170M with a 4 stroke and all the options until I found this 98 18 Dauntless. It has a NEW sw 150 Merc, fishing pkg, top, cover, stereo, and this COOL Furuno color GPS plotter/fish/depth finder thing that takes these cards. I have no idea how to use it but I will figure it out. The real problem is what boat to buy. I know both will be larger and ride better than my 13 but is it worth buying the used 18 over a new 170? I can buy the 18 for $17k without a trailer. I can buy a new 170 for $18100 with a 4s, top, fishing pkg, and dive platform. I hope someone out there can give me a first hand comparison of the two.
Thanks,
Brian
overbrook posted 11-08-2003 05:20 PM ET (US)
I have had both a 2000 18 dauntless and an 88 17 montauk and I would choose the dauntless in a heartbeat!!! much better riding and handling boat and much more roomy and functional- Go with the dauntless its the hands down favorite!
Barney posted 11-08-2003 08:13 PM ET (US)
More on the subject, used the Search function.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000916.html Jim
cape_rover posted 11-10-2003 06:52 AM ET (US)
[I can buy a new 170 for $18100 with a 4s, top, fishing pkg, and dive platform. ]
Are you sure that is not a 2-stroke? Is it a 2004 or 2003 model and does the price include freight, prep, etc.
What dealer did you get that quote from?
13DAUNTLESS posted 11-10-2003 02:49 PM ET (US)
I have a family member in the business. The price is for an 04 with a factory sun top, dive platform, 90 4stroke, fishing package, bow cushon, coast guard kit, and a trailer.
The price includes freight and prep but no tax.
cape_rover posted 11-10-2003 08:49 PM ET (US)
Are you getting the boat for dealer cost?
Barney posted 11-10-2003 09:19 PM ET (US)
Everybody's wallet just went ouch! And, some other words that can not be said here. Jim
13DAUNTLESS posted 11-11-2003 12:54 PM ET (US)
I don't believe this is dealer cost but it's close.
jaccoserv posted 11-11-2003 04:46 PM ET (US)
overbrook,
I'm not sure you can say it's the "hands down" favorite, as many people on this forum have opinions different from yours. Your Montauk is of the same design as Nushlie's. He was inquiring about a new 170 Montauk. Let's compare apples to apples here.
I would have to say in terms of creature comforts the Dauntless is the favorite, the built-in fuel tank is an obvious bonus, but I think that anyone who has ridden in both (such as myself) would be hard-pressed to say that the Dauntless is better riding or handling, I give the 170 the nod in that category.

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Author	Topic: New Montauk Compared to New 18' Dauntless
Nushlie	posted 08-25-2003 04:03 PM ET (US) Whaler Enthusiasts, We are trying to decide on what we are going to do with our current boat which is a 1984 Montauk. We are debating on whether to keep it or sell it and get a new Montauk or a new 18' Dauntless. It sounds like the new Montauks offer a somewhat more comfortable ride in rougher water than does our current Montauk. However, we are wondering if the 18' Dauntless is an even more comfortable and versatile boat than is the new Montauk. It appears the Dauntless is significantly (approx $15,000 USD) more expensive than the Montauk, however, Whalers last for quite some time and we want to be sure to get the right one. Most of our boating is done on Lake Erie with some boating done in the Gulf. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, Nushlie
ShrimpBurrito	posted 08-25-2003 04:47 PM ET (US) If you like the Dauntless, you might consider one that is 1-3 years old. You can get them for about the same price as a brand new Montauk 170. I saw one right here in Portland, Oregon, but it since sold: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002691.html
Jarhead	posted 08-25-2003 07:31 PM ET (US) If you look at the reasons you're thinking about trading in your old Whaler it should help with your decision. If it's because you want a better ride, more storage, fuel capacity, live well, more HP and more room the Dauntless is the way to go. But then again I might be the slightest bit prejudice. :)
AllanR	posted 08-26-2003 08:33 AM ET (US) You might want to check out the new Nantucket. Very good reports on this boat, and it is designed with a deeper "V" for a smoother ride than the Dauntless. The Dauntless looks like more of a family boat. But I don't believe it will ride as well as the Nantucket. But they are both in the same price range.
13DAUNTLESS	posted 11-08-2003 11:30 AM ET (US) Has anyone out there owned an 18 Dauntless and a 170 Montauk? I had my heart set on a new 170M with a 4 stroke and all the options until I found this 98 18 Dauntless. It has a NEW sw 150 Merc, fishing pkg, top, cover, stereo, and this COOL Furuno color GPS plotter/fish/depth finder thing that takes these cards. I have no idea how to use it but I will figure it out. The real problem is what boat to buy. I know both will be larger and ride better than my 13 but is it worth buying the used 18 over a new 170? I can buy the 18 for $17k without a trailer. I can buy a new 170 for $18100 with a 4s, top, fishing pkg, and dive platform. I hope someone out there can give me a first hand comparison of the two. Thanks, Brian
overbrook	posted 11-08-2003 05:20 PM ET (US) I have had both a 2000 18 dauntless and an 88 17 montauk and I would choose the dauntless in a heartbeat!!! much better riding and handling boat and much more roomy and functional- Go with the dauntless its the hands down favorite!
Barney	posted 11-08-2003 08:13 PM ET (US) More on the subject, used the Search function. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000916.html Jim
cape_rover	posted 11-10-2003 06:52 AM ET (US) [I can buy a new 170 for $18100 with a 4s, top, fishing pkg, and dive platform. ] Are you sure that is not a 2-stroke? Is it a 2004 or 2003 model and does the price include freight, prep, etc. What dealer did you get that quote from?
13DAUNTLESS	posted 11-10-2003 02:49 PM ET (US) I have a family member in the business. The price is for an 04 with a factory sun top, dive platform, 90 4stroke, fishing package, bow cushon, coast guard kit, and a trailer. The price includes freight and prep but no tax.
cape_rover	posted 11-10-2003 08:49 PM ET (US) Are you getting the boat for dealer cost?
Barney	posted 11-10-2003 09:19 PM ET (US) Everybody's wallet just went ouch! And, some other words that can not be said here. Jim
13DAUNTLESS	posted 11-11-2003 12:54 PM ET (US) I don't believe this is dealer cost but it's close.
jaccoserv	posted 11-11-2003 04:46 PM ET (US) overbrook, I'm not sure you can say it's the "hands down" favorite, as many people on this forum have opinions different from yours. Your Montauk is of the same design as Nushlie's. He was inquiring about a new 170 Montauk. Let's compare apples to apples here. I would have to say in terms of creature comforts the Dauntless is the favorite, the built-in fuel tank is an obvious bonus, but I think that anyone who has ridden in both (such as myself) would be hard-pressed to say that the Dauntless is better riding or handling, I give the 170 the nod in that category.