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Moe posted 04-03-2004 05:21 PM ET (US)
I just replaced the cheap-looking, small-diameter plastic steering wheel, which blocked my view of the tach from 1800 to 4200 rpm, on my 150 Sport. Like JimH, I used a 15.5"/22 degree Schmitt six-spoke wheel (PN 152-16-2-1) from Go2Marine (their PN 86942) for $57 plus shipping.
It sure makes the 150 look better, and gives me a better view of both the tach and radio. Pictures are here:
http://www.engr.udayton.edu/staff/lriggins/Whaler/Dash3.jpg
http://www.engr.udayton.edu/staff/lriggins/Whaler/WheelFromStern.jpg
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Moe

Sal A posted 04-03-2004 07:13 PM ET (US)
Moe,
Great improvement. It adds class. For me the rubber/plastic wheels on many boats remind me of bumper cars, and the 150 certainly ain't that. It looks great and thanks for all you add here in general.
Sal
Barney posted 04-03-2004 07:44 PM ET (US)
Nice addition Moe. What type of battery is that, brand etc? Jim
Moe posted 04-03-2004 07:58 PM ET (US)
Honestly, Jim, I don't remember what brand it is. Portage Entry said they'd put an AGM battery in it and I never actually checked which one they used.
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Moe
Knot at Work posted 04-04-2004 11:50 AM ET (US)
Moe, I bet it adds a instant nautical touch of class!
erik selis posted 04-04-2004 11:57 AM ET (US)
It looks much better Moe. It will probably feel much better too.
Erik
LHG posted 04-04-2004 05:42 PM ET (US)
That is an upgrade the factory should include. All BW Sports in in the 80's always had a nice 6 spoked SS wheel.
The cheap little small diameter wheel is not fitting of the rest of the boat.
Moe posted 04-04-2004 06:34 PM ET (US)
I agree that the cheap wheel is certainly out of character for a Whaler, Larry.
I think I'm going to get a teak cap for it so there will be at least a little wood on the boat, LOL!
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Moe
skred posted 04-05-2004 02:11 PM ET (US)
Having seen the pictures, I'm lonesome for the SS wheel that was std on my 15CC. Will the Schmitt SS wheel have the correct shaft diameter to fit my '99 Dauntless 16 Tilt/NFB setup?
skred posted 04-07-2004 01:11 PM ET (US)
Got my answer from Teleflex: all standard 3/4 inch shafts.
tabasco posted 04-07-2004 03:01 PM ET (US)
Schmitt has a wonderful three spoke wheel with a destroyer knob bulit in but you must tell them your shaft size for the lock down nut. The Montauk uses a half inch nut while the larger whalers use 5/8. I just replace my stock BW 5 spoke wheel with the new three spoke wheel as seen on the new larger 24 Whaler. I love the new look it makes TABASCO look like a much larger boat.
tw posted 04-07-2004 09:32 PM ET (US)
I replaced my cheapy plastic wheel also with a stainless and I love it. In fact, I commented on the plastic wheel to the dealership and posted a comnplaint on the customer survey. I think all pastic wheel owners should revolt and sent Whaler their plastic wheel postage due!
casacolumbia posted 04-09-2004 11:24 AM ET (US)
Moe:
Do you know if your type of s.s wheel will fit a 2003 13 sport?
Moe posted 04-09-2004 11:52 AM ET (US)
It should... they use the same Teleflex steering assembly.
FWIW, I just found out the teak center cap sold by West Marine is too small for this wheel.
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Moe
Moe posted 04-09-2004 11:59 AM ET (US)
Just checked the part number on the 130 and 150 stock plastic steering wheels. They are the same, so yeah, I'm sure it would fit the 130.
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Moe
casacolumbia posted 04-09-2004 04:21 PM ET (US)
Moe:
Thanks for all the help, I'll order mine today. Is the change over easy enough for a "novice' to do? Any special tools, etc. required?
Thanks
Moe posted 04-09-2004 06:44 PM ET (US)
They come wrapped in a local newspaper, LOL! No instructions.

There is a common set screw on the side of the new wheel. Back it out and the black cap will come out. It would be my luck that it would come out and drop, so I took the
set screw all the way out and put it in a safe place until I was ready to reinstall it.

There are three phillips head screws on the back side of the stock wheel that take a stubby screwdriver to get to.

Once you have those out, the faceplate will come off, revealing a large nyloc nut and washer. Holding the wheel, remove the nut and washer. If yours is anything like mine,
the wheel will pull right off. Mine wasn't overly tightened, and it seemed quite loose on the shaft.

I coated the shaft and key, and the inside of the hub, with antiseize. I use Permatex. With one finger on the back of the key to keep it from sliding back out of its slot in the shaft, use the other hand to put the new wheel on the shaft so that the key goes in the slot of the new wheel.

Push the wheel down firmly and look in its hub slot to make sure the key is still there. It may look like the back of the wheel is a bit far from the black plastic ring around the shaft (1/8"-3/16"), but that's as good as it gets.

I coated the big washer with a thin film of antiseize, placed it on the shaft, then tightened down the nut until it just touched the hub and I felt resistance, then tightened another 1/4 turn.

Place the black plastic cap in the wheel, put some blue (242) Loctite on the set screw threads and tighten it down to hold the cap.

That's it. You're gonna be amazed at what it does for the looks of the boat.
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Moe
casacolumbia posted 04-09-2004 08:26 PM ET (US)
Moe:
Thanks again, very complete instructions. Seems like I will be able to manage. I hope mine will look as good as yours does!
tombro posted 04-10-2004 07:11 AM ET (US)
Thanks, Moe, just printed out your instructions, and am awaiting delivery of the wheel.
tombro posted 04-21-2004 09:14 AM ET (US)
New wheel went on without a hitch, and looks sweet! Now I have my eyes on a power knob in teak...
Thanks for the detailed post, Moe!
Moe posted 04-21-2004 09:27 AM ET (US)
Good deal, Tom!
Just lookin' at the pictures from the Stuart gathering, I see Whaler put a stainless wheel on THEIR 150:
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/aboutmandm/detail?.dir=/44c0&.dnm=4490.jpg
Looks like a five spoke though.
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Moe
jimh posted 04-22-2004 12:27 AM ET (US)
Literally all modern steering wheels are built with the same mounting shaft, a tapered keyed shaft. If a wheel has been in place for a long time it may need the encouragement of a gear puller to pop it off the shaft.
For more information on the six-spoke destroyer wheel see
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000339.html

Moe--I like the photograph of your 150 SPORT. It shows one of the best features of the smaller Boston Whaler boats: they can be stored in your garage!

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Author	Topic: Stainless Wheel on 150 Sport
Moe	posted 04-03-2004 05:21 PM ET (US) I just replaced the cheap-looking, small-diameter plastic steering wheel, which blocked my view of the tach from 1800 to 4200 rpm, on my 150 Sport. Like JimH, I used a 15.5"/22 degree Schmitt six-spoke wheel (PN 152-16-2-1) from Go2Marine (their PN 86942) for $57 plus shipping. It sure makes the 150 look better, and gives me a better view of both the tach and radio. Pictures are here: http://www.engr.udayton.edu/staff/lriggins/Whaler/Dash3.jpg http://www.engr.udayton.edu/staff/lriggins/Whaler/WheelFromStern.jpg -- Moe
Sal A	posted 04-03-2004 07:13 PM ET (US) Moe, Great improvement. It adds class. For me the rubber/plastic wheels on many boats remind me of bumper cars, and the 150 certainly ain't that. It looks great and thanks for all you add here in general. Sal
Barney	posted 04-03-2004 07:44 PM ET (US) Nice addition Moe. What type of battery is that, brand etc? Jim
Moe	posted 04-03-2004 07:58 PM ET (US) Honestly, Jim, I don't remember what brand it is. Portage Entry said they'd put an AGM battery in it and I never actually checked which one they used. -- Moe
Knot at Work	posted 04-04-2004 11:50 AM ET (US) Moe, I bet it adds a instant nautical touch of class!
erik selis	posted 04-04-2004 11:57 AM ET (US) It looks much better Moe. It will probably feel much better too. Erik
LHG	posted 04-04-2004 05:42 PM ET (US) That is an upgrade the factory should include. All BW Sports in in the 80's always had a nice 6 spoked SS wheel. The cheap little small diameter wheel is not fitting of the rest of the boat.
Moe	posted 04-04-2004 06:34 PM ET (US) I agree that the cheap wheel is certainly out of character for a Whaler, Larry. I think I'm going to get a teak cap for it so there will be at least a little wood on the boat, LOL! -- Moe
skred	posted 04-05-2004 02:11 PM ET (US) Having seen the pictures, I'm lonesome for the SS wheel that was std on my 15CC. Will the Schmitt SS wheel have the correct shaft diameter to fit my '99 Dauntless 16 Tilt/NFB setup?
skred	posted 04-07-2004 01:11 PM ET (US) Got my answer from Teleflex: all standard 3/4 inch shafts.
tabasco	posted 04-07-2004 03:01 PM ET (US) Schmitt has a wonderful three spoke wheel with a destroyer knob bulit in but you must tell them your shaft size for the lock down nut. The Montauk uses a half inch nut while the larger whalers use 5/8. I just replace my stock BW 5 spoke wheel with the new three spoke wheel as seen on the new larger 24 Whaler. I love the new look it makes TABASCO look like a much larger boat.
tw	posted 04-07-2004 09:32 PM ET (US) I replaced my cheapy plastic wheel also with a stainless and I love it. In fact, I commented on the plastic wheel to the dealership and posted a comnplaint on the customer survey. I think all pastic wheel owners should revolt and sent Whaler their plastic wheel postage due!
casacolumbia	posted 04-09-2004 11:24 AM ET (US) Moe: Do you know if your type of s.s wheel will fit a 2003 13 sport?
Moe	posted 04-09-2004 11:52 AM ET (US) It should... they use the same Teleflex steering assembly. FWIW, I just found out the teak center cap sold by West Marine is too small for this wheel. -- Moe
Moe	posted 04-09-2004 11:59 AM ET (US) Just checked the part number on the 130 and 150 stock plastic steering wheels. They are the same, so yeah, I'm sure it would fit the 130. -- Moe
casacolumbia	posted 04-09-2004 04:21 PM ET (US) Moe: Thanks for all the help, I'll order mine today. Is the change over easy enough for a "novice' to do? Any special tools, etc. required? Thanks
Moe	posted 04-09-2004 06:44 PM ET (US) They come wrapped in a local newspaper, LOL! No instructions. There is a common set screw on the side of the new wheel. Back it out and the black cap will come out. It would be my luck that it would come out and drop, so I took the set screw all the way out and put it in a safe place until I was ready to reinstall it. There are three phillips head screws on the back side of the stock wheel that take a stubby screwdriver to get to. Once you have those out, the faceplate will come off, revealing a large nyloc nut and washer. Holding the wheel, remove the nut and washer. If yours is anything like mine, the wheel will pull right off. Mine wasn't overly tightened, and it seemed quite loose on the shaft. I coated the shaft and key, and the inside of the hub, with antiseize. I use Permatex. With one finger on the back of the key to keep it from sliding back out of its slot in the shaft, use the other hand to put the new wheel on the shaft so that the key goes in the slot of the new wheel. Push the wheel down firmly and look in its hub slot to make sure the key is still there. It may look like the back of the wheel is a bit far from the black plastic ring around the shaft (1/8"-3/16"), but that's as good as it gets. I coated the big washer with a thin film of antiseize, placed it on the shaft, then tightened down the nut until it just touched the hub and I felt resistance, then tightened another 1/4 turn. Place the black plastic cap in the wheel, put some blue (242) Loctite on the set screw threads and tighten it down to hold the cap. That's it. You're gonna be amazed at what it does for the looks of the boat. -- Moe
casacolumbia	posted 04-09-2004 08:26 PM ET (US) Moe: Thanks again, very complete instructions. Seems like I will be able to manage. I hope mine will look as good as yours does!
tombro	posted 04-10-2004 07:11 AM ET (US) Thanks, Moe, just printed out your instructions, and am awaiting delivery of the wheel.
tombro	posted 04-21-2004 09:14 AM ET (US) New wheel went on without a hitch, and looks sweet! Now I have my eyes on a power knob in teak... Thanks for the detailed post, Moe!
Moe	posted 04-21-2004 09:27 AM ET (US) Good deal, Tom! Just lookin' at the pictures from the Stuart gathering, I see Whaler put a stainless wheel on THEIR 150: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/aboutmandm/detail?.dir=/44c0&.dnm=4490.jpg Looks like a five spoke though. -- Moe
jimh	posted 04-22-2004 12:27 AM ET (US) Literally all modern steering wheels are built with the same mounting shaft, a tapered keyed shaft. If a wheel has been in place for a long time it may need the encouragement of a gear puller to pop it off the shaft. For more information on the six-spoke destroyer wheel see http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000339.html Moe--I like the photograph of your 150 SPORT. It shows one of the best features of the smaller Boston Whaler boats: they can be stored in your garage!