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posted 04-04-2004 03:56 PM ET (US)
I have a new 150 Sport on order and am concerned that I may have a problem at the launch being by myself (I am single).
I know that it is best if one person backs the boat away from the launch until the tow vehicle driver can return to the launch. In my case I will need to tie the Whaler to the launch dock while I park the tow vehicle.
Should I be concerned that I will anger other boaters?
posted 04-04-2004 04:42 PM ET (US)
Don't worry about it. If folks at the ramp have never boated by themselves, it's their loss. As long as you aren't clogging the ramp for an inordinate amount of time, you should have no problems.
With the 150, at many ramps, you could even moor the boat behind one that is currently retrieving ...this will offset some of the "down time" that is left while you retrieve your Jeep and trailer (assuming by screen name that you're using a jeep as a tow vehicle).
The 150 launches and retrieves very easily - especially if you've had some practice.
Most boaters will notice that you're solo and not have a problem with it.
I've been boating solo lots of times and have never had a problem with "angry boaters".
If they get too mad, just go over and pull their plug...bailing will give them something else to concentrate on for awhile. :)
posted 04-04-2004 06:08 PM ET (US)
The position of the tow vehicle determines your "place in line" at a ramp. People actually get in fights over this at some ramps.
Launching isn't as much of a problem. Get EVERYTHING done in the prep area before moving toward the ramp. Wait your turn in line and back the trailer into the water. Holding a 25' dockline from a stern eye and a 15' dockline from the bow cleat, push the boat off the trailer from the side of the boat the dock is on, then get on the dock and walk the boat out.
If the dock is long and you can move the boat back far enough so someone can start launching in front of you, tie the boat to the dock, park the tow vehicle and trailer, and hurry back to the boat to cast off before you delay the boat in front of you.
If the dock isn't long where someone can launch in front of you, if there are waiting docks on the side of the launch, go ahead and start the boat and move it over to one of them before parking the tow vehicle and trailer.
If the dock isn't long and there are no waiting docks, the person following you will just have to wait for you to park the tow vehicle and trailer and get back.
Retrieving solo at a busy launch is where the problem comes in. You can't tie up to a launching dock and obstruct those in the tow vehicle line from launching or retrieving while you go get your tow vehicle and trailer. And you can't pass those in the line waiting to launch (or retrieve) just because your boat is tied to the launching dock, even though it would help clear that ramp for them to launch, because your boat shouldn't have been there in the first place.
If you're going to launch at a ramp that may be busy when you return, make sure it is one which has waiting docks. Wait until you can tie up to one of them, then go get your tow vehicle and get in line. Once you get your trailer in the water, go get the boat and bring it up to the launching dock, behind your trailer.
At a ramp without waiting docks that isn't busy, just wait for anyone in line to launch/retrieve, then pull up to the dock and tie up. Do NOT pull in behind a boat that's retrieving if there are other vehicles in line! Try to tie up on the dock as close to the ramp as possible to discourage someone from backing down while you're getting the tow vehicle and trailer. They may assume you've left it to park the tow vehicle while launching. If someone does back down on your boat, while you're getting the tow vehicle and trailer, leave the tow vehicle in line, and go out on the dock and walk your boat around the end of the dock, so they can finish launching, then pull it back up and go get your tow vehicle.
Hope this helps... and contratulations on your 150 Sport. We LOVE ours!
posted 04-04-2004 06:22 PM ET (US)
I guess I just don't boat where it's busy enough to really steam someone off in that regard. At the busiest ramp that I use, there are 8 ramps (3 finger piers). Pier 1 is designated as a "launch only" pier, Pier 2 is "Launch or retrieve" and Pier 3 is "retrieve only".
With a 150, even if someone jumped in line ahead of you, you'd likely have space to squeeze down and retrieve the boat without screwing up the whole process.
I can see how this might be a problem with a particularly busy day and no clear directions on launch/retrieve ramps. That thought had not occurred to me before since I've never encountered a problem.
Then again, being from a major city, I'm likely the one to stare down someone who gets out of hand. If you paid your money to use the ramp, either through local taxes or launch fees, as long as you're not taking too much time in the process (having trouble backing down, loading, etc) and are just running to your car, I can't see how someone should be rightfully P.O.'d at you.
But I suppose carrying a portable air compressor to re-fill your trailer tires after an unpleasant encounter might be appropriate. :)
posted 04-04-2004 06:30 PM ET (US)
If you boat at a ramp where there is no waiting line, you have to pick up the tow-vehicle driver. What are you supposed to do in the meantime. Seems like it should take the same amount of time, only your boat will be unattended for part of the time.
posted 04-04-2004 06:34 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all the good info guys.
I did give some thought about boating alone and intend to launch early in the morning to avoid the rush. It's just that I talked to a fellow boater and he warned me about trouble launching at a busy ramp to the point that I am considering canceling my Whaler order. I now feel comfortable that my plan is workable.
posted 04-04-2004 10:21 PM ET (US)
If you feel rushed at the ramp launching or retrieving, just ask for a hand to hold the bow line, some one will help you.
I always ask if some is solo. That same guy might be the one to give you a tow back in if needed. We are all boaters no matter what and a little neighborly help with a smile never hurt anything.
posted 04-04-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)
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Launching usually goes fine without much input from the skipper. It is loading the boat on the trailer that often takes time. It is best to practice a few times when the ramp is not busy to get your technique perfected.
The angle of the ramp, the depth of the water, and the availability of a courtesy dock all affect the process. Every ramp is a bit different. Often the really busy ramps are supervised by park officials.
I have even seen Sheriff's Deputies working at the very busy Elizabeth Park Ramp in Wyandotte during the peak of the Walleye run in the lower Detroit River in late Spring. It gets rather stacked up there at times.
posted 04-04-2004 11:41 PM ET (US)
Dont sweat it, I am single and do it ALL the time...ALOT of people do it!!!So dont worry!!!!
People at the ramp WILL BE MAD at you, but thats because they will jealous of the new guy in the Jeep that owns one of the newest, sweetest 15' boats at the ramp!!!! GOOD LUCK with the 15!!
posted 04-05-2004 12:21 AM ET (US)
Most people who boat (as in work at doing it well vs. weekend warrior types) probably won't care if you take 2 minutes or 5 minutes to launch your boat. In fact, if you think you need help don't be afraid to ask someone before you start.
Just have your routine down but don't hurry, that's when you'll make even more mistakes.(speaking from experience- not putting the car in park, locking the primary keys in the car, leaving the keys for the boat in the car, forgetting something else in the car after you already went back to get the boat keys, trying to start the boat without the kill switch lanyard in place, trying to start the boat with the motor still tilted up, need I go on?)
The other thing you can do before attempting to launch for the first time on a Sat AM is go late at night if the ramp is lit and practice backing down and even launching the boat.
Remember anyone who has any boating experience has already made the mistakes that you will make. Provide no one gets hurt and no serious property damage takes place it should be a lot of fun.
posted 04-05-2004 01:33 AM ET (US)
Congratulations on your new boat. You will have lots of fun boating that will outweigh the initial trailering anxieties. I am sure that with a beauty like the 15 Sport you are going to find plenty of friends who will want to go boating with you, so you may not be trailering alone as much as you think.
I launch and retrieve my 220 Dauntless by myself at least twice a week. In my part of the country it makes sense to use a bunk trailer, and I am driving on and off the boat (note, I do crank it up the last six inches when loading), not using a roller trailer and ropes system. I back in the water, with my wheels close to the edge of the water. Climb on the back bumper (this is easier then it sounds), and onto the tongue, unhook the winch line, and then use the trailer's winch post as a step into the boat. I am typically at ramps without docks, in which case I am using a remotely located boat float, or more likely putting the bow up gently on the shore and using the danforth anchor and about eight feet of rope as insurance to hold it there while I park the car. The 220 is a very beachable boat for it's size, the nose hangs over land quite nicely. I can do all of this without getting my feet wet in most locales. Loading is the same process in reverse. In my case, the order of who goes next, is largely determined by who has the car on the ramp. It is like stop signs, sometimes you will run into people who don't follow the standard "rules" of courtesy, and then you just have to wait a little longer.
If you are new to trailering a boat then it is wise to go and practice sometime when the crowds are not prevalent. The first time to a new ramp I am always very nervous and overly cautious. First I walk up to someone who has just used, or is about to use, the ramp and ask for some local advice (are there hidden obstructions, rocks near the shoreline, any special policies, etc.). I am never afraid to admit that I haven't been there before, and usually I get great advice about where to fish, etc., in addition to information about the ramp. Then just watch for a while and make sure you are comfortable with what is taking place. At a busy ramp with multiple lanes, staying in the middle of your lane will make your fellow boaters happy as much as being quick. Backing down an inclined ramp can be disconcerting at first and takes practice. I would encourage you to go slow, be careful, and as your learning get out of the car (be careful, put the brake on, look first, etc.) and take a look if you are unsure. Don't forget about both of your side view mirrors, they are very useful for staying straight in ramp lanes when backing up.
Don't worry it gets easier once you start doing it, Steve
posted 04-05-2004 05:30 AM ET (US)
I offer my deep apology for judging you incorrectly. It is brought to my attention that that kind of thing is going around. Best of luck with your new boat.
posted 04-05-2004 07:03 AM ET (US)
I solo launch my 150 Sport all the time. Before I even got the boat I posted a query on a local boating/fishing forum, asking for "non-threatening ramps". I went on to explain the situation and got some good replies. In short, I found a ramp on each body of water that was do-able by myself. The only drawback was that one of them is more of a ride to the open bay/ocean. The second costs an extra $5, which surprisingly, keeps quite a few away. Well worth it! I do occasionally launch at the popular, busy ramps, but only with fishing buddies. They are experienced and quick in these situations, unlike my wife and daughter.
I totally avoid power-on type ramps, as I still cannot manage to drive the boat and tow vehicle simultaneously, no matter how much testosterone I can muster up. ;)
posted 04-05-2004 11:28 AM ET (US)
Just one thought to add here for a newbie. When launching, don't unhook your winch hook from your bow eye until the transome of your boat is well over water, basically ready to de-trailer. And don't forget to re-hook the winch rope and latch the winch ratchet PRIOR TO removing your rig from the water. Lots of bent and broken skegs attest to the fact this ain't ever'body's first thought on the subject. Ah watched about 20 guys pick up a nice Whaler V-20 from the landing and put it back on its trailer last spring down at Grand Isle, LA. Would make you cry to have seen that boat's skeg once they had it sit'iated proper:-!
posted 04-05-2004 06:50 PM ET (US)
Don't sweat it. When I was down at the marina where I keep my boat 2 guys took almost 10 minutes to get a bass boat out of the water. These looked like fairly seasoned folks. I am actually going to try pulling my 18' out tomorrow morning. I did spend some time with the trailer in an empty parking lot backing it into parking spaces. I also practiced backing it into my driveway with cars parked on both sides. The key is to practice, and take it slow, rushing only causes you to take longer because you forget things.
posted 04-05-2004 08:52 PM ET (US)
I launch and retrieve my 160 Dauntless many times myself. Being in central Florida and most ramps heavily used the best thing is be prepared in line before you get to the ramp- unhook transom straps, bow safety chain, get bowline out and have all you need in the boat. Don't come down to the dock 5 minutes later with the cooler out of the truck and head back for poles, etc.
Get a routine ahead of time- when I pull up in staging line I get out and undo straps and tilt engine up, PUT IN DRAIN PLUG!, let a couple feet of bow strap off winch and put bowline in the bed of truck in arm's reach. When it's your turn, back trailer in water to float off, tie boat off and park as quick as possible being careful of lifted 4x4 trying to back in jet ski trailer sideways next to you =).
When taking the boat out of water don't unload everything at the dock, leave it in the boat. Remember to tilt motor up (won't happen to me a 3rd time) I will power load mine where it is allowed and climb over bow to hook winch and safety chain and pull out of the water and out of the way to completly tie down, etc.
I've seen some people spend 15 minutes holding up the ramps not having a clue and some that can be in or out in 30 seconds. Don't worry about what other people say.
I started my boating life launching a 12' jon boat out of the bed of an S-10 pickup with no trailer and only 1 time had some drunks tell me I was blocking the 'real' boats. When I got p/o'd and slammed the boat in the bed I slipped and fractured my wrist. Luckily a kid not more than 12-13 jumped off the dock and helped me finish loading. After that I've learned to tolerate almost anyone and have offered help when needed.
When you are done and out of the way hang out a few minutes and watch the 'pros' ie: backing down, smoking tires, forgetting boat keys, the best was a Ford Explorer pulled down to the headlamps in water trying to jump start his boat as wife stood there yelling how stupid he was.
Sorry to be long winded but all in all just enjoy yourself.
posted 04-05-2004 09:00 PM ET (US)
I like to launch the boat by myself. In my early boating days extra people with me were distractions. Also, the "helpers" can get your fine boat in a fix. Like letting the boat turn around at the dock on a windy day, stern to the ramp. A written list and a system is the best thing. Jim
posted 04-05-2004 09:10 PM ET (US)
The car sets your place in line must be a regional thing - around here the line is definately set by your boat.
I solo my 22'outrage all the time. I have timed myself - I can launch, park the rig, get back in the boat and clear the finger pier in under 3 minutes. About a minute more to retrieve. At my main launch our finger piers are long enough that you can tie up when the boat ahead of you pulls up to the first position, and get your truck/trailer while they are pulling out.
No one should hassle anyone who takes a little longer to center a boat on a trailer, etc. But holding up a line while you pull off tie downs, search for the plug, load the beer from the truck to the boat is justifiably going to get people pissed off. Do all that stuff either in line of off to the side in the parking lot.
posted 04-06-2004 12:13 AM ET (US)
The two states I care about:
State of Ohio
"The line at the ramp is formed by the tow vehicle's position in the line, not by the boat's position"
State of Florida
posted 04-06-2004 12:11 PM ET (US)
A couple of things to remenmber that might ease your mind:
1) Everyone there has had to launch their first time.
2) Everyone there has had some kind of problem while launching or retriving.
When launching solo, if there are mulitple ramps or docks, try to launch on the downwind side of the dock or pier, if possible. The wind will tend to blow the boat away from the dock, making it easier to control. This also applies to any water current.
Also, if you are new to trailering, load up your boat and trailer and go to an empty parking lot with some empty drink cans. Practice backing up and turning the trailer using the cans to denote a simulated ramp. From my observations, backing a trailer is the most intimidating manuver a new boater has to do.
Good luck and don't be intimidated by "the pros"
posted 04-06-2004 05:44 PM ET (US)
After looking at the page you referenced I noticed it didn't say anything about salt water. Here's another excerpt from the link, " For vessels operated by individuals from up north, please wait in line as long as required to allow the tax paying locals time to launch and retrieve their boats." :-)
posted 04-06-2004 08:03 PM ET (US)
Phat, I'll bet you aren't even a Florida native!
posted 04-06-2004 08:20 PM ET (US)
If you are truly a cracker, as I am, then I have no issue with you whatsover, my brother. Really I just coudn't resist stirring the pot a little. Now, your profile says you are living in Ohio. What gives man?
ps: I was born In Vero Beach waaaayyy back in 1973.
Actually, not that this means a whole lot, I'm 3rd generation Floridian.
posted 04-06-2004 08:58 PM ET (US)
Retired from the USAF here, with two kids to get through collge and a well-paying job opening at a private university that provided free tuition for dependents. Just got the last one through this past summer, so the money's all that's keeping us here.
I understood you were kiddin'... so was I.
posted 04-06-2004 10:08 PM ET (US)
Moe, Was that south of I-10? ;)
posted 04-06-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)
Absolutely. About two miles north of the ICW.
posted 04-07-2004 11:02 AM ET (US)
Hm All the ramps I have used in the Collier Florida area seems to be using the Boat determins the order rule, not the car.
posted 04-07-2004 11:54 AM ET (US)
A lot of people don't know any better, and don't think of what their returning boat tying up a ramp does to others waiting in line. Most people just grumble, and the offender will never know it, but in some places there are those who WILL move an unattended obstruction. You may have to swim for it when you finally get there and notice everyone around grinning and "Didn't see a thing." Here, Ohio DNR may ticket you for obstructing a ramp.
It depends on whether there are waiting or "courtesy" docks. Where there aren't, courteous boaters will drop off a tow vehicle driver, then back off so others can use the ramp... and the tow vehicle driver can back down on any ramp, whichever is available next, when his turn comes. A tow vehicle trying to cut ahead of the line in some places sometimes gets pelted with sinkers, etc.
A solo operator should probably avoid busy ramps without waiting docks.
Wherever there ARE waiting docks, there should probably be a sign, "Returning boats park at courtesy docks until your trailer is on a ramp." That would clarify it for those who don't know any better.
posted 04-07-2004 05:17 PM ET (US)
1. Unless you are the ONLY person there, there is always somebody willing to help you, just ask. Well, maybe if you just ran over the other guy's dog, don't ask that person!
2. Up here where I boat, parking is sometimes 300-600 yards from the ramp, so people moor their boats and walk to their cars. It takes a while. Whether the boat has priority or the car has priority, if the operator is not there, he has no priority. If its crowded and my wife is with me, I have her drop me off and she keeps the boat underway near the ramp or at a nearby dock. For the last 12 years, during the summer, I've kept my old Schwinn Varsity 10-speed bike in the back of my truck and use it for "commuting" from the ramp to the parking lot. I pass a lot of people walking... Anyway, I unlock my bike (locked to a guardrail or sign post near the ramp) and pedal to the truck. When I bring the truck back, I get in line behind the other waiting vehicles and wait my turn. If there are boats there, but no vehicles, I back down, wave my wife in and take the boat out of the water. Launching is the reverse. She takes the boat and I park the truck.
3. When I boat by myself, I ask for help to secure the boat at the float and do pretty much the same thing with the bike & truck.
posted 04-07-2004 11:34 PM ET (US)
HI, this is a great thread and very helpfull to a guy like me who has never hauled a BW in or out of the water...Jetski yes, BW No. I used to keep my old 20 pro-line in a slip and considere that again for the soon to be coming Nantucket190, but have decide to trailer it at first cause I cant bring myself to paint that gorgeous hull, and evn though I liked slip life down on the Potomac, I really want to go other places very much and having the new Nantucket in the water all the time seems like Id never get the chances of going new places and seeing new water.
So although Im nervous about it thats what I will do...recently recovered from back surgery, but I figure how hard is it to crank that Natucket onto a trailer???? I figure Im not picking it up, just cranking...whats your take...Also, I think the biggest difficulty I may have with a new back is backing her to the water because of the twisting action looking behind me...your take?/...But I also figure if Ive trailered a Yamaha Jetski, loaded and ooffloaded her many times, that gives me some idea what the boat issues may be, even though its heavier and wider, the procedures are the same...except at my Marina, the boat ramp was idle most of the time and the concrete stoped were my trailer wheels stops, after that all mud...didnt mind getting wet...always put towels on the floor of the tow Jeep...always in a bathing suit....
Anyway, thats my take and my questions and this thread heps a lot...thanks,,.any other answers welcomed to this new bee Whaler guy:) Thanks
posted 04-07-2004 11:48 PM ET (US)
The bigger the trailer, the easier it is to back, because it responds more slowly. Learn to use your outside mirrors. With a boat that large, you aren't going to see as much out the back window anyway.
Depending on the ramp, the cranking may be tough on an injured back if it's shallow and you can't get it deep enough. First time you put it in the water, spray the bunks with silicone after parking the tow vehicle and trailer. If it's really hard at the ramp you use, I'd personally put an electric winch on it before risking further injury.
posted 04-08-2004 01:32 AM ET (US)
I actually pulled the Outrage out today. There was a guy from one of the marina's there putting in boats, so I freely admitted I had never done this. I backed the trailer down, which he redid to straighten it out he and his assistant helped me load and winch the boat onto the trailer. I am not sure about the electronic winch but definatly a new manual winch and new rollers are planned for the trailer. I think if I had plans to trailer the boat all the time the electronic winch might be a nice upgrade. As it stands I will probably do the load/launch maybe 3 to 4 times a year so not sure if the electronic winch is worth it right now.
posted 04-08-2004 01:39 AM ET (US)
Yiddil, if you have had back surgery, get the electric winch, especially if you plan to trailer all the time. Trust me on that one.
posted 04-08-2004 08:54 AM ET (US)
Hey Moe, at the ramps by me, the way things go, unless there is a waiting doc, you idle your boat till its your turn among the other idleing boats then pull into the ramp and secure it. then get your car and pull it out. on a busy day at a 3 ramp area it reminds me of waiting in line at the supermarcket. you shop for the shortest line, then take your position. most of the docks are long enough that while one boat is being trailored, then next boat is being tyed up and running for the car. The exeption is when there is a launch, the launch boat has presidence.
posted 04-08-2004 09:26 PM ET (US)
Thanks everyone, Kamie, Moe...lots of insight there. I think Im stronger as i go, and I can always ask for help I guess...spaying the bunks is a great Idea, never thought of that Moe!! Im wondering why they didnt just put some rollers on that Nantucket rig???Or did they??? I didn't see any...on the sides...wondering about the back...Ill find out soon enough...Im going to get my first chance to trailer it "home" and see how that goes with a Jeep Grand Cherokee 6 cyl....I think Ill be okay, just take my time...and then the first outing will proabably be to Sandy Point...unless someone knows of something in that vacinity thats better...along the south, or Severn...Ill take my time and see what would work best, prepare in advance, and then if nessessary see about adjustmnts with a electronic wench etc...Ill make sure the trailer wheels are deep in it...so as to get the best back float for the hauling cycle...I think thats what Moe said..or Kamie...Anyone wanna meet me for a Maiden Voyage when Im ready???:)
posted 04-08-2004 11:32 PM ET (US)
Yiddil, Your real maiden voyage should be with the dealer. Make sure they go over all the controls and take you for a spin in the boat. No reason why they can't help you take the boat in and out at least once so you get used to how far back on the ramp you need to be ect, how to center the boat and get it winched up. When are you scheduled to pick her up?
posted 04-09-2004 01:15 PM ET (US)
Kamie, I probabaly wont get the boat until early May. Good Idea, Ill ask um when the time is right.......:) Ive decided not to bottom paint immeadiately, as I want to try trailering it around to different sites...as I go Ill decide about the bottom paint........Ill get the Forward Canvas, CC and Leaningpost/baitwell covers as well...already told BW I want the Mills covers...to go with the bimini...
Have decided against the 2nd battery...and will get the mooring cover down the road from mills....Cant have it all right away I guess....
They should be okay with the full review and getting it inthe water the first time around........Im chompin at the bits to get it finally...gonna be a long 3 weeks me thinks.,...:) THanks
posted 04-09-2004 02:55 PM ET (US)
Ah had lower lumbar back surgery about three years ago, successful, and can tell you this: resist the urge to pull that trailer out the shed by hand or by back for one full year. Ah guaranty it'll give you ser'ous problems, you put that new-growed tissue to woik before she's 100%, and that'll take ever' bit of a year, ok? For this foist year post-surgery, you get a friend, a kid or your wife to help if you cai't park the boat where you can just back up to her. Next, after a year's gone by, based on mah experience if your surgery woiked, you can tug the trailer around and arm crank t'your heart's delight. A winch hasn't been nec'sary for mah Outrage 18' and we use her sev'ral times ever' week, but she's lighter than your Nantucket.
posted 04-09-2004 05:54 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Been exactly one year!!!(28March) so Im ready!!! But I will watch it never the less........Hey SAl...whats the dementions on that boat..the widest part of that rig...with trailer...I guess it would be wheel to wheeel??? and length after ya fold that from part of the trailer...need to measure for the garage!!! Yikes! Thanks
posted 04-10-2004 08:30 AM ET (US)
hey heres a heads up on bottom paint....
posted 04-10-2004 08:48 AM ET (US)
For more discussion on Launching Ramps, readers might find this article to be informative:
Two Schools of Thought
There is a 7-part series of articles about trailering in the Reference Section:
Re Launch Ramp Priority, it is often confusing who comes first, the boat or the trailer.
I recall this incident from my own experience. We approached a ramp in our boat. The ramp was occupied with another boat in the process of loading. We moored to the sea wall adjacent to the ramp. I went to the parking lot
While I was gone the boat loading on the ramp cleared the water, and another boat drove up and tied to the dock at the ramp. The boat just loaded stayed at the ramp for a minute or two to get properly tied down to ascend the ramp.
As soon as the ramp cleared, I backed down with my trailer. Of course, now there is another guy's boat at the dock. The solution to this was simple.
It would be easier to resolve these kinds of conflicts if there were a sign posted at every ramp that advised users what the protocol was, however, in my experience, most ramps to not have such information posted.
I was surprised to learn that there are actually state-wide regulations on the books about this. That ought to settle most arguments.
posted 04-12-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)
Simple minded Pat remembers the 3 "R"s...
Ramp Rules Right-of-way.
Hey, it works for me......
posted 04-13-2004 10:57 AM ET (US)
I'm dumber than anyone here, thankyouverymuch.
How do I recognize the courtesy dock? It's a dock with a pedestrian approach but no vehicle ramp?
posted 04-13-2004 11:42 AM ET (US)
> It's a dock with a pedestrian approach but no vehicle ramp?
That's correct. And occasionally, there will be outer docks that have a ramp on the inside but not on the outside. The side without the ramp is the courtesy or waiting side of that dock.
posted 04-13-2004 03:10 PM ET (US)
Wow, 7th generation! Are you related to Chief Osceola or something? ;-)
posted 04-16-2004 01:03 PM ET (US)
WOW a REAL CARCKERBOY.
toooo funny...hey richard, when you were young...did ya eat "sea cow" like we did in vero beach? I think they called dem thangs manatees now.....sea cow and sea turtle..man o man...whatta dinna dat was back den.
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