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strain posted 08-15-2004 08:05 PM ET (US)
I’m about to pull the trigger on buying a pair of Cannon uni-troll downriggers for my 170 Montauk. I would love some input regarding mounting.
In addition to fishing, I use my boat throughout the year for hanging out with the wife and dog so I would want to easily remove the downriggers.
PeteB88 posted 08-16-2004 12:29 AM ET (US)
Are you nuts? No fisherman removes his/her downriggers. My wife would whack me. Teach the dog and wife how to fish - or at least let the dog drive while you and wife adjust the 'riggers. or let the wife drive and teach the dog how to retrieve the fish - no need for net. You gotta get her dialed in!! Let me give you some advice - -
FIRST let her pick out the plugs/spoons for you. She will get into the groove as she monitors VHF I ASSURE you she will apply that woman intuition/bullshit meter to decipher all the lies and WILL get you into the fish.
SECOND - Once she gets this down you will have now built "trust" between you. She will be confident. Now do the following: say, "Honey, you're getting this stuff down real good. . . I'll make the sandwiches! . . . Hey babe, I got an idea. Why don't you NAME the lures?" man I swear this works. My wife names all the lures. You know why this is so important? Because when you are fishing and one of you starts hitting fish, and there are others around or you gotta use the VHF instead of saying "the bronze and black XX" you just use her code "we got that one on Vern . . ." Drives those goar ropers nuts.
THRID - Now that she is in the groove all you have to do is come up with suggestions. "Honey, what were those guy using last week? Do we have one or Five? Do you think we have enough for the next trip, all those other guys have hundreds." that's all you hve to do. She will become your official supplier of all lures. She will name them. Your pals will be in disbelief. ALl you need to do is get her a name book.
We need a thread for Whaler Babes. Who fish.
erik selis posted 08-16-2004 04:34 AM ET (US)
Dick has some very nice details on his website showing how he installed the downriggers on his 17-foot Montauk. I am sure the downriggers could also be mounted on the 170 Montauk in a similar way.
http://homepage.mac.com/whaler1/PhotoAlbum4.html
Good luck,
Erik
strain posted 08-16-2004 11:48 AM ET (US)
Hey PeteB88,
You right. But where do I find a fishing license for my dog? DFG is a pain here in California.
Divedog posted 08-17-2004 11:47 AM ET (US)
I haven't installed downriggers yet, but the photos in the link posted by Erik are 'Scotty' brand with an optional rail mount. From my research these are the best fit for a Montauk. They use four thumb screws which make them easy to take off. They also use a vertical support that takes some of the pressure of the side rails. The Scotty website has a nice brochure that explains they system.
strain posted 08-17-2004 12:44 PM ET (US)
I've also heard that the Scotty rail mounts are better than the Cannons. My dealer said that they just drill out the Scotty mount to handle the Cannons.
Dick posted 08-17-2004 02:04 PM ET (US)
The pictures on my site show Scotty longarms on swivel bases and rail mounts, all Scotty products. There should be no problem drilling the mount to take other brands of downriggers.
You do have to manufacture your own support board as shown in my pictures.
If you have any questions let me know.
Dick
Divedog posted 08-17-2004 04:17 PM ET (US)
Dick-
Last year when I was researching the cost of a Montauk I seem to remember you saying you sold the boat in the pictures. Do you have a replacement?
I ended up buying the an '04 Montauk at the Everett boat show. Lot's of fun already!
Dick posted 08-17-2004 10:01 PM ET (US)
Divedog
I am boatless at this time. I had to decide between boating and my woodshop, the woodshop won out for now.
There will be another Whaler in the future.
Dick
mojipa posted 08-23-2004 12:47 PM ET (US)
Go with the Cannon rail mount adaptor kit. I have 2 of them on my Montauk and they are a breeze to install. No Holes either!

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Author	Topic: Downrigger mounting advice for a 170 Montauk
strain	posted 08-15-2004 08:05 PM ET (US) I’m about to pull the trigger on buying a pair of Cannon uni-troll downriggers for my 170 Montauk. I would love some input regarding mounting. In addition to fishing, I use my boat throughout the year for hanging out with the wife and dog so I would want to easily remove the downriggers.
PeteB88	posted 08-16-2004 12:29 AM ET (US) Are you nuts? No fisherman removes his/her downriggers. My wife would whack me. Teach the dog and wife how to fish - or at least let the dog drive while you and wife adjust the 'riggers. or let the wife drive and teach the dog how to retrieve the fish - no need for net. You gotta get her dialed in!! Let me give you some advice - - FIRST let her pick out the plugs/spoons for you. She will get into the groove as she monitors VHF I ASSURE you she will apply that woman intuition/bullshit meter to decipher all the lies and WILL get you into the fish. SECOND - Once she gets this down you will have now built "trust" between you. She will be confident. Now do the following: say, "Honey, you're getting this stuff down real good. . . I'll make the sandwiches! . . . Hey babe, I got an idea. Why don't you NAME the lures?" man I swear this works. My wife names all the lures. You know why this is so important? Because when you are fishing and one of you starts hitting fish, and there are others around or you gotta use the VHF instead of saying "the bronze and black XX" you just use her code "we got that one on Vern . . ." Drives those goar ropers nuts. THRID - Now that she is in the groove all you have to do is come up with suggestions. "Honey, what were those guy using last week? Do we have one or Five? Do you think we have enough for the next trip, all those other guys have hundreds." that's all you hve to do. She will become your official supplier of all lures. She will name them. Your pals will be in disbelief. ALl you need to do is get her a name book. We need a thread for Whaler Babes. Who fish.
erik selis	posted 08-16-2004 04:34 AM ET (US) Dick has some very nice details on his website showing how he installed the downriggers on his 17-foot Montauk. I am sure the downriggers could also be mounted on the 170 Montauk in a similar way. http://homepage.mac.com/whaler1/PhotoAlbum4.html Good luck, Erik
strain	posted 08-16-2004 11:48 AM ET (US) Hey PeteB88, You right. But where do I find a fishing license for my dog? DFG is a pain here in California.
Divedog	posted 08-17-2004 11:47 AM ET (US) I haven't installed downriggers yet, but the photos in the link posted by Erik are 'Scotty' brand with an optional rail mount. From my research these are the best fit for a Montauk. They use four thumb screws which make them easy to take off. They also use a vertical support that takes some of the pressure of the side rails. The Scotty website has a nice brochure that explains they system.
strain	posted 08-17-2004 12:44 PM ET (US) I've also heard that the Scotty rail mounts are better than the Cannons. My dealer said that they just drill out the Scotty mount to handle the Cannons.
Dick	posted 08-17-2004 02:04 PM ET (US) The pictures on my site show Scotty longarms on swivel bases and rail mounts, all Scotty products. There should be no problem drilling the mount to take other brands of downriggers. You do have to manufacture your own support board as shown in my pictures. If you have any questions let me know. Dick
Divedog	posted 08-17-2004 04:17 PM ET (US) Dick- Last year when I was researching the cost of a Montauk I seem to remember you saying you sold the boat in the pictures. Do you have a replacement? I ended up buying the an '04 Montauk at the Everett boat show. Lot's of fun already!
Dick	posted 08-17-2004 10:01 PM ET (US) Divedog I am boatless at this time. I had to decide between boating and my woodshop, the woodshop won out for now. There will be another Whaler in the future. Dick
mojipa	posted 08-23-2004 12:47 PM ET (US) Go with the Cannon rail mount adaptor kit. I have 2 of them on my Montauk and they are a breeze to install. No Holes either!