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Nantucket owners, now that youve had yours a while...
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posted 10-19-2004 08:54 PM ET (US)
Well, as for me I got my first sea trail on "Das Boat" May 15th....been out maybe 50 times since then...keeping a log...usually running anywhere from 1 hour to 4....Boays ina slip at CPM, Maryland.......here are my thoughts so far....
1- This Nantucket is a really wonderful boat...takes flat water and up to four footers equally well, people hurt on the latter...:)fair weather boater here:)
Overall, if you can find one( I hear they cant be had, or they fly out off the dealership) Buy one, you wont be disappointed:))
posted 10-20-2004 03:54 AM ET (US)
I don't think the Nantucket is a boat that gets much talk. Not sure why. In any case I will be picking mine up very soon. The pedestal seats have arrived and we are only waiting on the bimini to arrive for installation. Mine will be the Opti 150, fishing package, front cushion, bimini, swim platform etc.
As to speed I hope it will run a solid 45 give or take because water ski speeds for slalom are 36 MPH. I will not be shy with putting the throttle forward, engines like to run and I plan to run it, why be shy?
I plan to eventually install a jackplate and tabs and will of course have a GPS/sonar and VHF.
I hope that a year from now I have good reports. My boat will be rigged out for diving, exploring and some fishing.
Perhaps I will see you on the water, my 'tucket will be the one passing you because if the water is smooth enough to go 37 it is smooth enough to run wide open--lol--and I think the difference will be more than 5 MPH especially after tabs and jackplate are installed. My dealer says the boat will run 48 as is. On a smooth freshwater lake maybe it does. If not I am sure I will still be happy. J
posted 10-20-2004 08:53 AM ET (US)
Have had my Nantucket for about two months now. Lots of running on Connecticut river, one trip to Penobscot bay Maine and two trips to Isle of Shoals off New hampshire.
Haven't had anything wrong at all. Feel so comfotable in this boat, more so than the previous Montauk.
The best thing is the Honda 150. Having Yamaha 100 four stroke on Montauk made 115 on Nantucket a no go. This motor makes boat very responsive, very important in rougher conditions. Gas consumption seems low, filled boat and took two trips out of Great Bay NH and needle still hasn't moved.
Woodard Marine in Vermont has been the greatest dealer, still waiting for cushions and ladder from Whaler. Hurricane is as good as UPS strike. Anybody want to cruise the Connecticut River in Vermont let me know, got miles and miles of good foliage still to go here in Putney.
posted 10-20-2004 11:21 AM ET (US)
Winding down on my first year with the Nantucket. I have the 135 opti and have been extremely pleased. The top end is over 40mph and fuel economy is great. The boat has been a lot of fun with the family fishing, cruising and skiing/wakeboarding. We do go down the C&D Canal (Chesapeake Delaware) to go out to dinner and it's a really nice ride.
Only had a few miinor problems: I trailer the boat and it had a dig on the keel from launching at low tide. The dealer took care of it and installed a pad to prevent it. The front cushion is nice but a bit small for my teenage daughters sunbathing. The worst problem has been the weather the past several weeks, a great deal of wind and rain.
Stripers should be arriving in the Delaware Bay (croakers are unbelievable now) I hope the weather cooperates the next several weekends. I do hate winter!
posted 10-21-2004 03:47 AM ET (US)
Do Nantucket owners have the same bow light moisture problems that the Montauk 170 owners have? This seems to be their biggest complaint, what on the Nantucket is of similar aggravation? J
posted 10-21-2004 01:15 PM ET (US)
I will be suprized if you run 45 highanddry....maybe with trim tabs etc...but Ill be suprized. If your dealer said you will run 48MPH you will be the first one Ive heard of that can do that with a 150:)But who knows, maybe you can set it up to run with that MPH...WOT with the 115-2 is 41.60, with 150 its I belive 42.50 or 44.50 ...see the performance data on this site...regardless congrates on your Nantucket...youl love her........Ive not heard of Bow light problems with the Nantucket....Ill check mine next time Im down...havn't needed to turn on the lights yet! hehe
posted 10-21-2004 04:13 PM ET (US)
I have a Dauntless 180 which is 6" shorter but the same weight as the Nantucket. I have a 135 optimax raised to the 2nd hole, ss prop with a dolfin and I top out at 44 mph, 5600 rpm. If you put a 150 optimax on that boat and raise it up, you should absolutely have no problem reaching 44+ mph top end.
posted 10-22-2004 04:46 AM ET (US)
BKloss, yes, I agree. For one thing I will add a jack plate unless someone can give me good reason not to. I want the jackplate for both performance and shallow ops. I believe the 6 inch set back and the ability to raise the engine up for optimum speed under ideal conditions will get me into the mid to high 40s. Of course I may need to play with props and I only expect the boat to do this when light. J
posted 10-22-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)
On nice flat water here on Connecticut River with Honda 150 I can just nudge 50 mph(GPS)before I realize that this is really fast in a boat. No problem..Nantucket feels just right. No water in bow light, but I did seal it with silicon sealer after applying bulb grease on bulb ends purchased from Wal Mart auto dept.
posted 10-24-2004 02:03 PM ET (US)
I have had my Nantucket for 6 months and have about 75 hours on it. I have been happy for the most part. 90% fishing near shore - 10% cruising and tubing with the kids. No problems other than some very minor details that my dealer took care of after I had the boat a few weeks.
I did add trim tabs and a 4 blade PowerTech prop. WOW…what a difference. I highly recommend the tabs, makes a huge difference in the ride. The 4 blade helped with improved midrange, much less bow rise, can maintain plane 5 mph lower than the Mirage Plus prop I had on it. I lost 1.5 mph off the top end but gained 2 mph at 4000 rpm. My max speed is 45.8 mph (after powertech tweaked it for me) with full fuel and 2 people. I can live with that. I also had dual batteries w/ a perko added.
My biggest gripes are limited storage. (as with all whalers), the under gunnel rod racks don’t allow for rods over 6 feet and it’s really a pain to retrieve an anchor with the position of the bow rail in relation to the bow. I am having a mini anchor pulpit designed that is similar to the one on the Outrage 21. It fits around the bow nav lights and that should solve that problem. I will post pics when it is installed.
Highanddry…I like your idea of the jackplate, alot. I would think that you will easily accomplish what you looking for with that addition. Please post the results. I am VERY interested in doing that too….but will let you be my guinea pig (grin). I have had no problems with the water in the nav lights.
posted 10-24-2004 02:08 PM ET (US)
Correction...that’s a top speed of 44.8 mph. We need an edit feature here for the literate
posted 10-28-2004 06:58 PM ET (US)
highanddry Please tell how the pedestal seats are. As I don't fish it seems nice to be able to sit while crusing. If you have a photo that would be great. I've looked for a shot but haven't been able to find one.
posted 10-28-2004 07:18 PM ET (US)
I have the pedestal seats. They are comfortable to sit in.
My wife loves them. Nice for the passenger.
However... even with the pilot seat slid all the way forward I can not reach the steering wheel and have my back up against the back rest. I have to sorta sit on the edge. I am over six feet tall and don’t have short arms by any means. This was noted by another user on this board that has the seats also.
If it was just ME using the boat, I would get the leaning post. I mm basically using the seats as a modified leaning post as it is.
posted 10-28-2004 07:23 PM ET (US)
here is BW's drawing of the seats:
posted 10-31-2004 01:51 AM ET (US)
Picked my boat up today. Had it out for a short trial. The engine had about 1.5 hours into the break-in cycle from the dealer. Initial impressions are that it is a solid and easy tracking boat. Cuts through the waves easily. My initial speeds are at 3,000 RPM about 25 and at 4500 about 40 and at wide open--10 sec burst per manual about 46. The engine is a 150 Opti. It is pleasently quiet but emits a nice snarl when punched. The speeds are not GPS, probably not accurate, all I know is that at WOT it was scooting enough to tear my eyes and I was not trimmed out all that well either. Three people and 28 gallons on board.
The seats someone asked?--Yes, I like them right off. They are comfortable enough and better suited to multi purpose use that the leaning post and you can lean on them easy enough if you don't want to sit in them.
OK, the Smart guages are fogged slightly, the trailer brakes hung up, the RH tie down strap is interfered with by the swim platform, the hull seems to have a very vague and almost imperceptable (my wife cannot see it) color variation from place to place, or is it a gloss variation and needs some buffing and waxing or is it just stain/dirt?
Nantucket 190 with 150 Opti, fishing package, swim platform, bow cushion, bimini top and other odds and ends.
OK, tell me again now that this is a good boat, I always go into "post major purchase shock". I think I better go take some asprin or qualudes or something. J
posted 10-31-2004 11:57 PM ET (US)
My tie down/swim platform is problem was solved by making an oval hole in the platform so the tie-down strap can make a straight shot from the transom d-ring to the trailer attach point.
I made the oval hole with a 1.5 inch hole saw. Made two holes next to each other and cut out the center portion to make the oval. Painted the inside of the hole with matching paint. Came out very neat and looks like it was made that way. Worked for me.
My hull also looked like yours in a few places. I waxed mine and they are forever gone.
I can smell gas fumes in by beige at times. Took it to the dealer and found that the other Nantucket in town came in for the same thing. Pressure tested the tank, checks out good. The put an electronic sniffer on it and it barely registered anything. The other Nantucket came had similar results. They say not a problem, has to do with the poly tank. I feel slightly reassured, but still wary.
You will love your new Nantucket. Other than the problems above and the same brake problem you had, that’s all of my troubles. My Opti and Nantucket has worked perfectly not even a loose screw yet and I have pound it hard regularly.
I like my Nantucket…..now if it was just 6 feet longer???……well that’s another story
posted 11-07-2004 08:53 PM ET (US)
Whalerider...for the money, youd be hard pressed to find better....settle down and enjoy her...shes a wonderful boat, and will probably out live you, shes that good:)))Lets here from you after youve had a chance to shake her down....
I had a cpl of dark spots on my CC from over buffing...the dealer can fix that if its importatnt to you...wanst to me...rub rail replacement because of a rub from the metal pacaging I will do next spring...not that importatnt....
Nantucket beauty factor... a ten:) Boatability....10...out of 10
Mind you, a 150 gives you more ump!!! than my 115-2...But I love her justa s she is...and the gas milage is tops!!!and only loose 5 MPH over the 150...there both sound...the only one I hear was a problem was the 115-4(sal) was going to re-power...
After a season, I Look back at the purchase and the cost vs. other Whalers and I know she was the right boat for me and my wallet!":)(
posted 11-08-2004 02:31 PM ET (US)
This really *****! I got a new boat and no water to put it in for at least 5 months. Well, I am making a trip down south to pick up another kayak and I am tempted to take the 'tucket but it is only a 4 day trip so I figure I don't have time. Oh well, I will be down on the north shore at Covington La. which would be a great time to put her in some real water--salty!!!! I think I am going to have to wait--drats. I also got an invite next June for a sinking of a ship for diving out of PC Fla, maybe I can make that.
Hey--you keep saying 5 MPH but I am pretty sure I saw 46 on the speedo and since I am still in breakin I could not leave it there long enough to stop accelerating--lol--wink wink. I think lightly loaded it may climb up a little higher out of the water and pick up a bit more speed. I definitly feel a jack plate can give 3 or 4 more MPH and help out in the shallows. Have to wait on that till later. Has anyone unplugged the prop? J
posted 11-08-2004 11:31 PM ET (US)
A new boat and no water:( UGH that really stinks. Id go get me some warm weather and water wit that thinG! I confounded how Im going to stand not having her in the water for 3-4 months...I may loose my mind! OR pull her down south early and just go for it somewhere:) After having her out 3-4 times per week since May15, Im sure Im going to have withdrawles!!!5MPH is the difference in top speed from the 2 engines I mentioned as per performance data(115-2 vs 150)Witha full tank of gas and a regular load...depebding on wind and trim etc...44 on the 150 is the tops Ive heard people get with the 150...Ive had her up to 37, I might get more if and when I change the prop to SS and empty the gas out a bit....but Im not looking for a lot more speed...shes plenty fine the way she is..No need for trim tabs if I get out on plane in seconds...she planes at like 2500 RPMs:) and the 115-2 gets her up real quick:)Even if thats correct and thats as fast as I can get...thats a 7 mph difference I wasn't willing to pay 8 grand for the 150.I was on Marlins 16 with a 115 and that boat went like 44:) But he wishes he had a bit more roonm:) and he did it with 4 people on board:) Whata great little boat that 16 is:)Makes no matter...just enjoy it and use her safe:)
posted 11-09-2004 07:08 AM ET (US)
highanddry... I assume you have the Mirage prop on your Nantucket. There are I think, 3 different size plugs to go in the vent holes on your prop. Dont just take out the existing plugs, the hole will be way TOO big. Get the plugs with the smallest or middle sized vents in them, they are pretty cheap. My 4 blade Performance prop has 3/8" vents and they seem about right.
Hurry up and get that jackplate, man! I want to see how that works out for you. I would like to do the same.
Drag that thing to some water! Have fun.
posted 11-09-2004 12:09 PM ET (US)
Yes, it is the stock Mirage and yes I read your thread where you went to a 4 blade. I may do that and keep the Mirage as a spare or not--have to see. Did you install the vented plugs? I was just thinking that they may improove acceleration especially pulling a skier up. My 'tucket jumped up pretty good but I have to say it does not get on plane as fast as a purpose ski boat. Just thinking that using the vents might allow the boat to get a better hole shot. J
posted 11-11-2004 09:19 AM ET (US)
I did not try the vented plugs in the Mirage. The vents in my 4 blade came drilled from the beginning, thus no before and after comparision was done. I agree that they may help. Try 'em, cant hurt, you can always put the non-vented plugs back in and they are not too expensive (in boat $$). Sorry, cant pass along much USEFUL info.
If you do try the vents... let us know what happened.
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