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Larry posted 06-13-2005 09:27 AM ET (US)
This weekend a mechanic while looking over my engine mentioned that all the wires and connectors such as the main link (red connector) are hanging loose and he feels that they should be anchored.
Does anyone else have the same condition and is he right? To what and where are the wires/connectors to be anchored?
As an aside, later that day while reclining in comfort at anchor on the rear "couch"-(try doing that on a leaning post)- a guy paddles up in a conoe and says he has a '99 18' Dautless for sale because it has a fuel filling problem that BW cannot fix, is this a problem with some whalers of that era?
jhenkel posted 06-13-2005 01:23 PM ET (US)
Larry,
Your Rage 15 may be a bit different than my Rage 14, but my wiring harless is securely fastened to the various bulkheads and walls in the engine compartment as well as in the center console. Nothing fancy, just some basic wire ties and screws (can't think of the name for those little plastic doo-dads at the moment).
Regards,
Jeff.
Kumiega posted 06-13-2005 06:31 PM ET (US)
All of my wires are anchored. They are anchored with a custom piece that allows me to use a plastic wire tie. These piece failed so I just replaced them with new pieces from Boat US. I do agree that lose wires in an engine compartment is not a good idea. If a wire gets caught in a moving part it would be very bad.
where2 posted 06-13-2005 11:08 PM ET (US)
Larry, Get some "Zip Ties", Tie-Wraps, whatever you may call them, and strap those loose wires up. You certainly don't want that red connector (Main wiring harness) dropping into the bilge water... That would start a whole new nightmare of problems...
Larry posted 06-16-2005 08:54 AM ET (US)
OK got whole lot of zip ties ready to go but to what should they be made fast? the side wall has no connection points and I don't see any on the engine. There is a "J" bracket on each top cylinder, should anything particular be held by these. It looks like anything fastened to them or the side of the engine would be subject to extereme heat and possible melting!? Wish BW did a better job with the manuals. The large red plug is out of the bilge but not really supported. The other wire bundles are not slack enough or close enough to be tied together.
Thanks for the help.
Kumiega posted 06-16-2005 11:12 PM ET (US)
On my boat Whaler drilled holes into the gel coat in the engine compartment. They then mounted the items shown at the Boat US link. You then wire tie to these items.
http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=20002&langId=-1&catalogId=20002&productId=916&catalogId=20002&classNum=184&subdeptNum=124&storeNum=9
I hope this helps
where2 posted 06-19-2005 10:21 PM ET (US)
Larry, Looking at Page 4-34 of the Service manual, most everything is loose. I think I ended up attaching the harness connector to the battery lead figuring that the battery lead was substantial enough (its a #2 or #4 wire). If you don't have the service manual, email me...
Meanwhile yesterday while I was tinkering with my Rage, I found a loose 3/8"x1-1/4" bolt rolling around in the bilge water... Amazingly, I found where it came from...
Larry posted 06-20-2005 10:49 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the help. Except for the battery cable there does not seem to be much to anchor the wires to. The side wall might be possible but it is a little too far away from most of the wires. The boat has run for 10 years as is so I will take my time trying to secure the wires better.
Where2, Don't keep us in suspense....where did the bolt come from? :-)
where2 posted 06-20-2005 05:52 PM ET (US)
now that I re-read my post, it looks like the bolt is much larger than it really was. The head took a 3/8" socket, it really was a 1/4-20 x 1-1/4"...
Anyway, it came off the intake port ramp on the opposite side of the engine from where I found it (found on starter side rear of the bilge, came from throttle cable side upper intake ramp). I'll see if I can find a better description of what it was attaching in the parts catalog...
Larry posted 07-07-2005 02:10 PM ET (US)
Kumiega,
Thanks for the link. My rage had them mounted in the bottom of the engine compartment but I never noticed them before. I picked some up at BoatUS, put three of them on the port soundproofing with bolts through the grey backing and now my boat is "shipshape and Bristol fashion".

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Author	Topic: Rage Elec Harness
Larry	posted 06-13-2005 09:27 AM ET (US) This weekend a mechanic while looking over my engine mentioned that all the wires and connectors such as the main link (red connector) are hanging loose and he feels that they should be anchored. Does anyone else have the same condition and is he right? To what and where are the wires/connectors to be anchored? As an aside, later that day while reclining in comfort at anchor on the rear "couch"-(try doing that on a leaning post)- a guy paddles up in a conoe and says he has a '99 18' Dautless for sale because it has a fuel filling problem that BW cannot fix, is this a problem with some whalers of that era?
jhenkel	posted 06-13-2005 01:23 PM ET (US) Larry, Your Rage 15 may be a bit different than my Rage 14, but my wiring harless is securely fastened to the various bulkheads and walls in the engine compartment as well as in the center console. Nothing fancy, just some basic wire ties and screws (can't think of the name for those little plastic doo-dads at the moment). Regards, Jeff.
Kumiega	posted 06-13-2005 06:31 PM ET (US) All of my wires are anchored. They are anchored with a custom piece that allows me to use a plastic wire tie. These piece failed so I just replaced them with new pieces from Boat US. I do agree that lose wires in an engine compartment is not a good idea. If a wire gets caught in a moving part it would be very bad.
where2	posted 06-13-2005 11:08 PM ET (US) Larry, Get some "Zip Ties", Tie-Wraps, whatever you may call them, and strap those loose wires up. You certainly don't want that red connector (Main wiring harness) dropping into the bilge water... That would start a whole new nightmare of problems...
Larry	posted 06-16-2005 08:54 AM ET (US) OK got whole lot of zip ties ready to go but to what should they be made fast? the side wall has no connection points and I don't see any on the engine. There is a "J" bracket on each top cylinder, should anything particular be held by these. It looks like anything fastened to them or the side of the engine would be subject to extereme heat and possible melting!? Wish BW did a better job with the manuals. The large red plug is out of the bilge but not really supported. The other wire bundles are not slack enough or close enough to be tied together. Thanks for the help.
Kumiega	posted 06-16-2005 11:12 PM ET (US) On my boat Whaler drilled holes into the gel coat in the engine compartment. They then mounted the items shown at the Boat US link. You then wire tie to these items. http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=20002&langId=-1&catalogId=20002&productId=916&catalogId=20002&classNum=184&subdeptNum=124&storeNum=9 I hope this helps
where2	posted 06-19-2005 10:21 PM ET (US) Larry, Looking at Page 4-34 of the Service manual, most everything is loose. I think I ended up attaching the harness connector to the battery lead figuring that the battery lead was substantial enough (its a #2 or #4 wire). If you don't have the service manual, email me... Meanwhile yesterday while I was tinkering with my Rage, I found a loose 3/8"x1-1/4" bolt rolling around in the bilge water... Amazingly, I found where it came from...
Larry	posted 06-20-2005 10:49 AM ET (US) Thanks for the help. Except for the battery cable there does not seem to be much to anchor the wires to. The side wall might be possible but it is a little too far away from most of the wires. The boat has run for 10 years as is so I will take my time trying to secure the wires better. Where2, Don't keep us in suspense....where did the bolt come from? :-)
where2	posted 06-20-2005 05:52 PM ET (US) now that I re-read my post, it looks like the bolt is much larger than it really was. The head took a 3/8" socket, it really was a 1/4-20 x 1-1/4"... Anyway, it came off the intake port ramp on the opposite side of the engine from where I found it (found on starter side rear of the bilge, came from throttle cable side upper intake ramp). I'll see if I can find a better description of what it was attaching in the parts catalog...
Larry	posted 07-07-2005 02:10 PM ET (US) Kumiega, Thanks for the link. My rage had them mounted in the bottom of the engine compartment but I never noticed them before. I picked some up at BoatUS, put three of them on the port soundproofing with bolts through the grey backing and now my boat is "shipshape and Bristol fashion".