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lakeman posted 12-25-2005 05:46 PM ET (US)
I was looking at my 2000 Dauntless 18 and noticed I need to replace the scuppers, or at least the rubber flapper. I was wondering if I could use/replace it with the ping pong ball scuppers since the drain is at least three inches(never measured it to be sure) below the water line. Anyone have an opinnion on this?

deepwater posted 12-25-2005 05:59 PM ET (US)
wont the balls float??,,the new veh gas tanks have a balltype of anti back surge thing in the fill hose you might find one that would fit your holes ,,water goes out cant get backin
Riptide23WA posted 12-26-2005 10:57 AM ET (US)
I had bought a set of those, but another CW member said they were a bit noisy if one were to spend the night on the boat (I have a cuddy on mine), as the balls bob around in the scupper housing...
Therefore, I never installed them, and will put new flapper units on this spring. C
rtk posted 12-26-2005 06:06 PM ET (US)
I had a Carolina Skiff. The standard boat has two drain hole at deck level/water line level in the transom to allow the cockpit to self bail. They come with two drain plugs you install so the water does not enter the cockpit. Worked just fine on most of the boats, the KISS system. (keep it simple stupid)
The problem I had is my boat came with the optional rear deck. You could not access the drain holes. So it was keep the plugs in or leave them out. I didn't like the wet deck with them out, and I didn't like relying on the bilge pump to drain the boat when it rained.
I installed the "ping pong ball" things. They worked great. The boat would self bail and the deck was dry when the scuppers were submerged.
Some water would enter the boat when the scupper was say half submerged, but not much.
I have the rubber flaps on my current boat. They work ok, but I find I have to poke the flapper open to drain the transom well. It may be they are a bit old and stiff, but they are only 8 years old.
I think they are a great product. We installed them on a few yacht club boats that had open scuppers, and they work very well.
The only thing I don't like about them is I didn't think of the idea first!
Rich
rumrunner posted 01-01-2006 09:39 AM ET (US)
Anybody got a photo link or manufacturer's info re the "ping pong balls"?
I'm curious, and haven't seen them before.
Considering them for a 20' OR.
Backlash posted 01-01-2006 09:52 AM ET (US)
rumrunner,
Here's one manufacturer:
http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=55
hardknots posted 01-02-2006 08:13 PM ET (US)
I put them in my 27' and they worked perfectly.
Ricky
ConnorEl posted 01-03-2006 04:29 PM ET (US)
I’ve purchased these from Cabela’s but haven’t yet installed them:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item. jsp?id=0031985017564a&navCount=1&podId=0031985&parentId=cat21326& navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat21276&catalogCode=IF&rid=& parentType=index&indexId=cat21326&hasJS=true
djahncke posted 01-03-2006 07:01 PM ET (US)

I replaced the rubber flappers on my Dauntless 17 with the Flow-Max scuppers two years ago. The work much better than the rubber flaps ever did. I couldn't be happier.
rumrunner posted 01-03-2006 09:37 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the feedback. I assume it's a quick install?
ledfoot posted 01-04-2006 01:14 PM ET (US)
They work great on my 24' Blackfin as well; no complaints.
DeepSouthWhaler posted 01-06-2006 11:06 AM ET (US)
Lakeman, I have the same boat but a 1999 model. I am considering the same upgrade. Have you figured out how to change the scupper under the livewell on the port side?
lakeman posted 01-07-2006 06:26 AM ET (US)
Deep South, I thought the ping pong device was just a screw on replacement for the original I will check tomorrow. I was on the Florida Sportsman forum and the same question came up and I guess some boats, have the ball actually in the transom or behind it I would never want to have that setup if I knew it in advance. I will probably try the ones mentioned above for about $7 a piece. I really like the twist off option for cleaning that the TH marine ones have.
Backlash posted 01-07-2006 10:06 AM ET (US)
rumrunner,
Quick install? Not necessariy. It all depends on the outside flange diameter of your existing thru-hull. The T-H Marine scuppers I installed required grinding down the OD of my existing flange with a Dremel tool. The scupper base is composed of lexan with a silicone gasket to seal the ball. This base must fit perfectly flush with the transom to work properly. Also, if the 4 screws that attach the base to the transom are overtightened, the silicone gasket will be distorted and the ball will not seal properly.
The inside diameter (ID) of the T-H Marine scupper base is 1-1/2". If the OD of your flange is larger than this it will have to be ground down.
I chose the T-H Marine scupper, over the Rabud, because of the twist-off feature which is very handy for cleaning.
Steve

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Author	Topic: Ping Pong ball scuppers
lakeman	posted 12-25-2005 05:46 PM ET (US) I was looking at my 2000 Dauntless 18 and noticed I need to replace the scuppers, or at least the rubber flapper. I was wondering if I could use/replace it with the ping pong ball scuppers since the drain is at least three inches(never measured it to be sure) below the water line. Anyone have an opinnion on this?
deepwater	posted 12-25-2005 05:59 PM ET (US) wont the balls float??,,the new veh gas tanks have a balltype of anti back surge thing in the fill hose you might find one that would fit your holes ,,water goes out cant get backin
Riptide23WA	posted 12-26-2005 10:57 AM ET (US) I had bought a set of those, but another CW member said they were a bit noisy if one were to spend the night on the boat (I have a cuddy on mine), as the balls bob around in the scupper housing... Therefore, I never installed them, and will put new flapper units on this spring. C
rtk	posted 12-26-2005 06:06 PM ET (US) I had a Carolina Skiff. The standard boat has two drain hole at deck level/water line level in the transom to allow the cockpit to self bail. They come with two drain plugs you install so the water does not enter the cockpit. Worked just fine on most of the boats, the KISS system. (keep it simple stupid) The problem I had is my boat came with the optional rear deck. You could not access the drain holes. So it was keep the plugs in or leave them out. I didn't like the wet deck with them out, and I didn't like relying on the bilge pump to drain the boat when it rained. I installed the "ping pong ball" things. They worked great. The boat would self bail and the deck was dry when the scuppers were submerged. Some water would enter the boat when the scupper was say half submerged, but not much. I have the rubber flaps on my current boat. They work ok, but I find I have to poke the flapper open to drain the transom well. It may be they are a bit old and stiff, but they are only 8 years old. I think they are a great product. We installed them on a few yacht club boats that had open scuppers, and they work very well. The only thing I don't like about them is I didn't think of the idea first! Rich
rumrunner	posted 01-01-2006 09:39 AM ET (US) Anybody got a photo link or manufacturer's info re the "ping pong balls"? I'm curious, and haven't seen them before. Considering them for a 20' OR.
Backlash	posted 01-01-2006 09:52 AM ET (US) rumrunner, Here's one manufacturer: http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=55
hardknots	posted 01-02-2006 08:13 PM ET (US) I put them in my 27' and they worked perfectly. Ricky
ConnorEl	posted 01-03-2006 04:29 PM ET (US) I’ve purchased these from Cabela’s but haven’t yet installed them: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item. jsp?id=0031985017564a&navCount=1&podId=0031985&parentId=cat21326& navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat21276&catalogCode=IF&rid=& parentType=index&indexId=cat21326&hasJS=true
djahncke	posted 01-03-2006 07:01 PM ET (US) I replaced the rubber flappers on my Dauntless 17 with the Flow-Max scuppers two years ago. The work much better than the rubber flaps ever did. I couldn't be happier.
rumrunner	posted 01-03-2006 09:37 PM ET (US) Thanks for the feedback. I assume it's a quick install?
ledfoot	posted 01-04-2006 01:14 PM ET (US) They work great on my 24' Blackfin as well; no complaints.
DeepSouthWhaler	posted 01-06-2006 11:06 AM ET (US) Lakeman, I have the same boat but a 1999 model. I am considering the same upgrade. Have you figured out how to change the scupper under the livewell on the port side?
lakeman	posted 01-07-2006 06:26 AM ET (US) Deep South, I thought the ping pong device was just a screw on replacement for the original I will check tomorrow. I was on the Florida Sportsman forum and the same question came up and I guess some boats, have the ball actually in the transom or behind it I would never want to have that setup if I knew it in advance. I will probably try the ones mentioned above for about $7 a piece. I really like the twist off option for cleaning that the TH marine ones have.
Backlash	posted 01-07-2006 10:06 AM ET (US) rumrunner, Quick install? Not necessariy. It all depends on the outside flange diameter of your existing thru-hull. The T-H Marine scuppers I installed required grinding down the OD of my existing flange with a Dremel tool. The scupper base is composed of lexan with a silicone gasket to seal the ball. This base must fit perfectly flush with the transom to work properly. Also, if the 4 screws that attach the base to the transom are overtightened, the silicone gasket will be distorted and the ball will not seal properly. The inside diameter (ID) of the T-H Marine scupper base is 1-1/2". If the OD of your flange is larger than this it will have to be ground down. I chose the T-H Marine scupper, over the Rabud, because of the twist-off feature which is very handy for cleaning. Steve