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mcmahojo posted 06-11-2007 12:14 PM ET (US)
I have a 200 Verado, new in February of 2005 with about 120 hours on it. I love the way the motor performs, but it has let me down three out of my last six trips. I don't have the latest diagnosis back from a June 9 failure, but I am interested to know if any other Verado owners are experiencing problems?
Thanks
bkloss posted 06-11-2007 02:46 PM ET (US)
I have a 200 Verado as well. Could you be more specific as to what types of problems?
tripletail posted 06-12-2007 10:39 AM ET (US)
I just received a notice from Merc regarding a problem with the Verado. I don't have the notice in front of me to give the details of the problem.
bluewaterpirate posted 06-12-2007 10:55 AM ET (US)
So MC, what is the problem(s) you've been having?
Tom
bkloss posted 06-12-2007 12:44 PM ET (US)
Problem details should be included, not only for more specific information but also to not unfairly generalize problems that may isolated to a particular motor because of [problem]s unrelated to manufacturing or design defects.
I have a 2007 build Verado 200 that may not have the same problems associated with a 2005-2006 build but I would like to know of them just in case.
uidb5298 posted 06-12-2007 02:00 PM ET (US)
I just received the recall notice for my 2006 150 Verado. The recall states that a false alarm might sound which will trigger the Verado to run at reduced power. Apparently they have fixed the [problem].
Jordi posted 06-12-2007 09:56 PM ET (US)
uidb5298,
The letter Mercury sent to Verados owners states there is an upgrade to the software of the PCM. The parameters for some alarms have been re-programmed to improve sensitivity and a low oil level alarm added. When you take your outboard for service the PCM is re-calibrated. (This is not a recall)
Jordi posted 06-12-2007 10:00 PM ET (US)
mcmahojo,
Can you elaborate on your on-going Verado 200 problems? You claim to have 50% failure rate in your last six trips,,what happened? Powerheads, superchargers, lower ends, sensors, etc.
bkloss posted 06-12-2007 10:13 PM ET (US)
I have put a whopping 15 hrs on my Verado and I do have one problem that is going to take time to get over: Every time I start the damn thing, I'm having a terrible time of knowing that it started! I'm so used to my previous and trusty Optimax giving me that sweet audible motor and compressor noise AND that slight shake the motor makes right before it fires up!!!
Seriously, it does take some getting used to - not hearing the motor starting and idling.
P.S. The pee hole and stream faces toward the boat not aft.
Enough of my rambling.......
Brian
hilob posted 06-13-2007 02:48 AM ET (US)
FYI- I purchased my 2007 190 Outrage with the 150 Verado. I have 129 hours to date. Ono run primarily, typically run 1 hour (4200 RPM),troll 9 hours, then run 40 min (4200 RPM).
I had my doubts about this new technology, but I must admit the 150 Verado has performed flawlessly. I don't have any negatives to mention. Besides it burn about 8.7 GPH if you really open her up. Trolling at 9 knots I've burning about 3.2 GPH. Note, the conditions here in Kona are pretty nice.
The only thing that really bothers me is that there isn't any Verado Certified mechanics here on the Big Island of Hawaii. That really worries me.
hilob
uidb5298 posted 06-13-2007 07:20 AM ET (US)
Jordi, You are correct regarding the software upgrade, sorry I didn't have the letter in front of me when I wrote my previous post.
I work in the automotive business and I'm pretty sure that anytime you get a letter from a manufacturer to bring their product in for a replacement item it's called a recall, even if it's only a software upgrade. They are definitely not coming out to my house to fix the problem!
mcmahojo posted 06-13-2007 07:23 AM ET (US)
The turbocharger belt on my verado failed at about 80 hours; the alternator failed shortly after. I am still waiting for a diagnosis of the latest problem.
tombro posted 06-13-2007 08:29 AM ET (US)
Service Bulletin 2007-03 was recently issued for recalibration of the Propulsion Control Module in Mercury Verado Outboards. My Verado 225 has >250 hours, and is in it's 3rd season. Other than the Fuel Float Assembly recall in spring, 2006, it has been problem free. My GPS odometer is currently reading 2,465 nm, FWIW. Luckily for me, my marina sells Boston Whalers and their mechanic is a Verado Qualified individual.
Please keep us posted on the most recent problem you are experiencing, mcmahojo.
Jordi posted 06-13-2007 09:48 AM ET (US)
Verado Owners,
Thank you for the input. Perhaps we can start a yearly (update) of the owner experiences of the Verado's with hours used and problems encountered. This will benefit many of the potential Verado owners that are waiting for the Verado to establish a reliability record. If you read the threads in the mercury verado club there have been some problems with powerheads, sensors, superchargers, etc. How pervasive the problems are to-date and how much the owners are at faults (not following Mercury guidelines) would be difficult to ascertain. Nevertheless the input from first hand ownership experience is what draws many folks to this invaluable site.
Jordi
henryk posted 06-13-2007 11:27 AM ET (US)
I have two 250 HP Verado engines on the back of my 305 Conquest. They have over 100 hrs on them, and are kept in fresh water. The problems are:
1) Recall notice to replace a fuel float assembly--- performed in 2006. Had no problems before, or after replacement.
2) Recall notice of Propulsion Control Module upgrade. Dealer just informed me that it has to be done with the boat out of the water, due dealer having to have his computer, with internet access on.......to the Mercury factory support group. This is to prevent false alarms. This will be done at the end of the season, when the boat comes out of the water.
3) Smoke coming from one engne on start-up. Dealer checked it out, called Mercury, and told me this was normal. It seems that raising the motors up, above the waterline, during the time the boat is docked, allows some oil to enter. This will produce some smoke on startup. It does go away........but only happens on one of the motors, and just started happening......boat wasn't used in 1+ weeks. It didn't happen last year. Probably may lead to the next RECALL? Since I boat in fresh water, I will keep the motors lowered in the water.
Jordi posted 06-13-2007 01:27 PM ET (US)
Henry,
It has been reported that if you store your engines in the tilted up position you should give them a couple minutes before you start. Be very careful in filling the oil to the proper level and do not overfill.
Jordi
jimh posted 06-13-2007 08:19 PM ET (US)
[Combined two concurrent discussions on same topic]
podosky posted 06-13-2007 08:47 PM ET (US)
Mcmahojo: I think you meant to say the belt on your supercharger broke, as the Verado does not have a turbocharger.
We have a 150 Verado. No problems to date.
jimh posted 06-14-2007 08:37 AM ET (US)
[Moved a second discussion which was on the topic of the discussion itself and not on the topic of problems with Verado motors to a separate discussion in the Meta-discussion area. The Meta-discussion is a discussion about the discussions themselves.]
Mercace posted 12-10-2009 09:51 AM ET (US)
[Revived two-year dormant thread to post his first article here. By any standard this article is a classic troll. Thread closed. No need to reply to trolling authors whose first posts are clearly intended to be provocative--jimh]
Verado engines have problems. To mention a few: they make oil; the [Fuel System Module is] prone to failure as a result of ethanol-blended fuel; the chaps can fall off during normal use; the cowlings leak causing the powerhead to be subjected to saltwater which leads to electrical problems and sensor failures along with severe powerhead corrosion; they are heavy compared to [other] brands; the superchargers tend to rattle making a knocking noise; they have a tendency to corrode rather rapidly probably from a low grade of aluminum used during manufacturing.

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Author	Topic: Verado Problems
mcmahojo	posted 06-11-2007 12:14 PM ET (US) I have a 200 Verado, new in February of 2005 with about 120 hours on it. I love the way the motor performs, but it has let me down three out of my last six trips. I don't have the latest diagnosis back from a June 9 failure, but I am interested to know if any other Verado owners are experiencing problems? Thanks
bkloss	posted 06-11-2007 02:46 PM ET (US) I have a 200 Verado as well. Could you be more specific as to what types of problems?
tripletail	posted 06-12-2007 10:39 AM ET (US) I just received a notice from Merc regarding a problem with the Verado. I don't have the notice in front of me to give the details of the problem.
bluewaterpirate	posted 06-12-2007 10:55 AM ET (US) So MC, what is the problem(s) you've been having? Tom
bkloss	posted 06-12-2007 12:44 PM ET (US) Problem details should be included, not only for more specific information but also to not unfairly generalize problems that may isolated to a particular motor because of [problem]s unrelated to manufacturing or design defects. I have a 2007 build Verado 200 that may not have the same problems associated with a 2005-2006 build but I would like to know of them just in case.
uidb5298	posted 06-12-2007 02:00 PM ET (US) I just received the recall notice for my 2006 150 Verado. The recall states that a false alarm might sound which will trigger the Verado to run at reduced power. Apparently they have fixed the [problem].
Jordi	posted 06-12-2007 09:56 PM ET (US) uidb5298, The letter Mercury sent to Verados owners states there is an upgrade to the software of the PCM. The parameters for some alarms have been re-programmed to improve sensitivity and a low oil level alarm added. When you take your outboard for service the PCM is re-calibrated. (This is not a recall)
Jordi	posted 06-12-2007 10:00 PM ET (US) mcmahojo, Can you elaborate on your on-going Verado 200 problems? You claim to have 50% failure rate in your last six trips,,what happened? Powerheads, superchargers, lower ends, sensors, etc.
bkloss	posted 06-12-2007 10:13 PM ET (US) I have put a whopping 15 hrs on my Verado and I do have one problem that is going to take time to get over: Every time I start the damn thing, I'm having a terrible time of knowing that it started! I'm so used to my previous and trusty Optimax giving me that sweet audible motor and compressor noise AND that slight shake the motor makes right before it fires up!!! Seriously, it does take some getting used to - not hearing the motor starting and idling. P.S. The pee hole and stream faces toward the boat not aft. Enough of my rambling....... Brian
hilob	posted 06-13-2007 02:48 AM ET (US) FYI- I purchased my 2007 190 Outrage with the 150 Verado. I have 129 hours to date. Ono run primarily, typically run 1 hour (4200 RPM),troll 9 hours, then run 40 min (4200 RPM). I had my doubts about this new technology, but I must admit the 150 Verado has performed flawlessly. I don't have any negatives to mention. Besides it burn about 8.7 GPH if you really open her up. Trolling at 9 knots I've burning about 3.2 GPH. Note, the conditions here in Kona are pretty nice. The only thing that really bothers me is that there isn't any Verado Certified mechanics here on the Big Island of Hawaii. That really worries me. hilob
uidb5298	posted 06-13-2007 07:20 AM ET (US) Jordi, You are correct regarding the software upgrade, sorry I didn't have the letter in front of me when I wrote my previous post. I work in the automotive business and I'm pretty sure that anytime you get a letter from a manufacturer to bring their product in for a replacement item it's called a recall, even if it's only a software upgrade. They are definitely not coming out to my house to fix the problem!
mcmahojo	posted 06-13-2007 07:23 AM ET (US) The turbocharger belt on my verado failed at about 80 hours; the alternator failed shortly after. I am still waiting for a diagnosis of the latest problem.
tombro	posted 06-13-2007 08:29 AM ET (US) Service Bulletin 2007-03 was recently issued for recalibration of the Propulsion Control Module in Mercury Verado Outboards. My Verado 225 has >250 hours, and is in it's 3rd season. Other than the Fuel Float Assembly recall in spring, 2006, it has been problem free. My GPS odometer is currently reading 2,465 nm, FWIW. Luckily for me, my marina sells Boston Whalers and their mechanic is a Verado Qualified individual. Please keep us posted on the most recent problem you are experiencing, mcmahojo.
Jordi	posted 06-13-2007 09:48 AM ET (US) Verado Owners, Thank you for the input. Perhaps we can start a yearly (update) of the owner experiences of the Verado's with hours used and problems encountered. This will benefit many of the potential Verado owners that are waiting for the Verado to establish a reliability record. If you read the threads in the mercury verado club there have been some problems with powerheads, sensors, superchargers, etc. How pervasive the problems are to-date and how much the owners are at faults (not following Mercury guidelines) would be difficult to ascertain. Nevertheless the input from first hand ownership experience is what draws many folks to this invaluable site. Jordi
henryk	posted 06-13-2007 11:27 AM ET (US) I have two 250 HP Verado engines on the back of my 305 Conquest. They have over 100 hrs on them, and are kept in fresh water. The problems are: 1) Recall notice to replace a fuel float assembly--- performed in 2006. Had no problems before, or after replacement. 2) Recall notice of Propulsion Control Module upgrade. Dealer just informed me that it has to be done with the boat out of the water, due dealer having to have his computer, with internet access on.......to the Mercury factory support group. This is to prevent false alarms. This will be done at the end of the season, when the boat comes out of the water. 3) Smoke coming from one engne on start-up. Dealer checked it out, called Mercury, and told me this was normal. It seems that raising the motors up, above the waterline, during the time the boat is docked, allows some oil to enter. This will produce some smoke on startup. It does go away........but only happens on one of the motors, and just started happening......boat wasn't used in 1+ weeks. It didn't happen last year. Probably may lead to the next RECALL? Since I boat in fresh water, I will keep the motors lowered in the water.
Jordi	posted 06-13-2007 01:27 PM ET (US) Henry, It has been reported that if you store your engines in the tilted up position you should give them a couple minutes before you start. Be very careful in filling the oil to the proper level and do not overfill. Jordi
jimh	posted 06-13-2007 08:19 PM ET (US) [Combined two concurrent discussions on same topic]
podosky	posted 06-13-2007 08:47 PM ET (US) Mcmahojo: I think you meant to say the belt on your supercharger broke, as the Verado does not have a turbocharger. We have a 150 Verado. No problems to date.
jimh	posted 06-14-2007 08:37 AM ET (US) [Moved a second discussion which was on the topic of the discussion itself and not on the topic of problems with Verado motors to a separate discussion in the Meta-discussion area. The Meta-discussion is a discussion about the discussions themselves.]
Mercace	posted 12-10-2009 09:51 AM ET (US) [Revived two-year dormant thread to post his first article here. By any standard this article is a classic troll. Thread closed. No need to reply to trolling authors whose first posts are clearly intended to be provocative--jimh] Verado engines have problems. To mention a few: they make oil; the [Fuel System Module is] prone to failure as a result of ethanol-blended fuel; the chaps can fall off during normal use; the cowlings leak causing the powerhead to be subjected to saltwater which leads to electrical problems and sensor failures along with severe powerhead corrosion; they are heavy compared to [other] brands; the superchargers tend to rattle making a knocking noise; they have a tendency to corrode rather rapidly probably from a low grade of aluminum used during manufacturing.