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bben posted 09-04-2007 03:26 PM ET (US)
Has anyone either bought or order [a 2008 Boston Whaler 170 MONTAUK] yet? I am thinking about moving up [to a 170 MONTAUK] from the 150 Montauk. I know it is not that much of a jump in terms of size and features. The reasons I will save for another time. I am curious about views on price. I have one price that is about $1,000 more than the Whaler website price, but they are offering me $17,000 for my 2006 150 Montauk, which seemed pretty good to me.
Is the $1,400 aluminum trailer option worth it? I havent seen it yet, but it is supposedly nicer looking and lighter, but I am not sure it is worth that kind of price. Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
millertime1 posted 09-04-2007 04:16 PM ET (US)
I've seen the Aluminum trailer. It's nice. LED lights, Diamond plate fenders, really dresses the package up. It's real popular down south. As for the price, it doesn't sound bad. I think the Whaler site doesn't include the freight and preparation. The boat I know is nice for 2008 with the new non skid which is easy to clean and the taller console.
bwhaler01 posted 09-04-2007 05:42 PM ET (US)
Hi bben. I was curious to know which dealer is offering you the $17,000 for the 150 in trade. I am thinking of trading up my 150 Sport which is a 2004. They are offering me about $9,000 in trade.
Thanks.
Inabanus posted 09-04-2007 08:21 PM ET (US)
bben,
I bought a 170 Montauk, 2007, this year and also debated on the aluminum trailer. This is going to sound strange, but I was told by the dealer, who called Boston Whaler to verify, that the aluminum trailer was actually heavier than the standard trailer. I stuck with the standard trailer but did add the disc brake option, which I would do again in a heartbeat. They are great.
In terms of your trade in, $17,000 seems like a solid price, but as you know they are making some money on the trade in, on the new boat, or both, which is expected, as long as you don't get taken for a ride (no pun intended!).
Happy hunting!
Inabanus
bben posted 09-04-2007 08:55 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the feedback thus far. $17,000 for the trade seemed solid but I do think the new price is a bit high. Interesting point about the aluminum trailer possibly being heavier...that is possible given the diamond plate wheel wells in place of the plastic. Ben
Nauti Tauk posted 09-05-2007 05:52 AM ET (US)
Defintely jump up to the aluminum trailer. I may be wrong but the $1,400 to upgrade sounds like a bit much to me. Our new aluminum Continental with stainless package (170 montauk)was something less than $2,000 out the door. It also has metal fenders but no brakes.
bben posted 09-05-2007 09:03 AM ET (US)
The dealer is Clews and Strawbrige in suburban Philly. The saleman is Jim Tasman and he is great to deal with. Thanks for the input so far. I should have said in the beginning that the standard trailer is the galvenized without disk brakes; you can then upgrade to the galvanized with disks for about $700 or upgrade to the alumium with disks for $1,400; so the upgrade from galvanized to aluminum really is only $700 in effect. Thanks again...I am still waffling...
Traveller posted 09-05-2007 02:17 PM ET (US)
Hi bben -
My wait to order a new Montauk 170 is almost over. I got a price quote last week from a local dealer for a 2008 Montauk 170, and every charge was itemized and matched the prices listed on the Boston Whaler website. The additional charges on the invoice were for dealer prep, and a freight charge for shipping the boat from the factory to the dealership. The shipping charge by itself is near $1,000.
I don't know if freight is a standard addition to the base price, but I only want the red trim with a black bimini top, and this dealer claims to only order blue for their in-stock inventory. I am also very specific about which options I want, and which I don't. They will order the boat from Boston Whaler equipped exactly as I want it, but I have to pay the shipping.
I spoke to the dealership about all the trailers that could be ordered with the Montauk 170, and discovered that even the aluminum trailer comes with 13" tires as the only size possible. I won't have a trailer with under 14" tires because of the distance I trailer a boat every year - about 10,000/year average. I decided to order the boat with the basic trailer, and have contacted a Loadmaster trailer dealer who will build a custom aluminum trailer with 14" tires for the 2008 Montauk 170, and take the basic trailer in trade.
Feejer posted 09-05-2007 02:23 PM ET (US)
I know Clews and Strawbridge very well. I'm about 30 minutes from them and took my 2005 [Boston Whaler boat] there after I purchased it to have them check it out and add some options. Jim is a very nice guy and gave me some real good pricing. But I found a used 2005 with 18 hours on the engine and could not pass up the deal. I think their prices are inline with other dealers around. I for one would have second thoughts on adding trailer brakes on such a light package. My last two boat were over 4,500-lbs and I did have SS disc brakes on them. But with the Montauk 17 package around 2,500 [lbs?] I would not buy them unless is was required by your tow car or truck. The constant clunking from the trailer brake tongue everytime I would stop drove me nuts
Jefecinco posted 09-05-2007 07:29 PM ET (US)
Reference those plastic fenders. My trailer is eight years old and two days ago I replaced the plastic fenders for the second time.
At least they are affordable, about $30 each at West Marine, and very easy to replace. Only held on by four bolts. It'll be necessary to move the yellow and red reflectors, too. I use rivets to hold mine to the fenders as I find the adhesive to fail early.
If I could find aluminum diamond plate replacements that are "piece part replacements" I would use them. But my trailer was built with crossmember placement for an exact fit for the plastic fenders.
I'd go for the aluminum just for the fender quality.
Butch
bben posted 09-05-2007 07:38 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all of the replies. So it looks like I am leaning toward the aluminum trailer. One final question: the aluminum trailer is a torsion axle set up and I have done a little digging and some say the torsion set up is prone to rust without warning, whereas, the leaf spring set up will also rust but is visible and easy to repalce. Any final thoughts on this piece? Thank you again. Ben
jimh posted 09-05-2007 09:04 PM ET (US)
My impression is that torsion axles tend to carry the trailer frame lower to the ground, and this is an improvement. It makes the boat easier to launch as you do not have to back the trailer as far down the ramp to get the boat to float off of the trailer.
Jefecinco posted 09-06-2007 07:24 PM ET (US)
Eight years on torsion axles in salt water. No problems.
Butch
Whalerdog posted 09-06-2007 10:27 PM ET (US)
Torsion on most types of trailer rides better then springs. Good Luck on yur possible purchase.

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Author	Topic: 2008 170 Montauk Price
bben	posted 09-04-2007 03:26 PM ET (US) Has anyone either bought or order [a 2008 Boston Whaler 170 MONTAUK] yet? I am thinking about moving up [to a 170 MONTAUK] from the 150 Montauk. I know it is not that much of a jump in terms of size and features. The reasons I will save for another time. I am curious about views on price. I have one price that is about $1,000 more than the Whaler website price, but they are offering me $17,000 for my 2006 150 Montauk, which seemed pretty good to me. Is the $1,400 aluminum trailer option worth it? I havent seen it yet, but it is supposedly nicer looking and lighter, but I am not sure it is worth that kind of price. Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
millertime1	posted 09-04-2007 04:16 PM ET (US) I've seen the Aluminum trailer. It's nice. LED lights, Diamond plate fenders, really dresses the package up. It's real popular down south. As for the price, it doesn't sound bad. I think the Whaler site doesn't include the freight and preparation. The boat I know is nice for 2008 with the new non skid which is easy to clean and the taller console.
bwhaler01	posted 09-04-2007 05:42 PM ET (US) Hi bben. I was curious to know which dealer is offering you the $17,000 for the 150 in trade. I am thinking of trading up my 150 Sport which is a 2004. They are offering me about $9,000 in trade. Thanks.
Inabanus	posted 09-04-2007 08:21 PM ET (US) bben, I bought a 170 Montauk, 2007, this year and also debated on the aluminum trailer. This is going to sound strange, but I was told by the dealer, who called Boston Whaler to verify, that the aluminum trailer was actually heavier than the standard trailer. I stuck with the standard trailer but did add the disc brake option, which I would do again in a heartbeat. They are great. In terms of your trade in, $17,000 seems like a solid price, but as you know they are making some money on the trade in, on the new boat, or both, which is expected, as long as you don't get taken for a ride (no pun intended!). Happy hunting! Inabanus
bben	posted 09-04-2007 08:55 PM ET (US) Thanks for the feedback thus far. $17,000 for the trade seemed solid but I do think the new price is a bit high. Interesting point about the aluminum trailer possibly being heavier...that is possible given the diamond plate wheel wells in place of the plastic. Ben
Nauti Tauk	posted 09-05-2007 05:52 AM ET (US) Defintely jump up to the aluminum trailer. I may be wrong but the $1,400 to upgrade sounds like a bit much to me. Our new aluminum Continental with stainless package (170 montauk)was something less than $2,000 out the door. It also has metal fenders but no brakes.
bben	posted 09-05-2007 09:03 AM ET (US) The dealer is Clews and Strawbrige in suburban Philly. The saleman is Jim Tasman and he is great to deal with. Thanks for the input so far. I should have said in the beginning that the standard trailer is the galvenized without disk brakes; you can then upgrade to the galvanized with disks for about $700 or upgrade to the alumium with disks for $1,400; so the upgrade from galvanized to aluminum really is only $700 in effect. Thanks again...I am still waffling...
Traveller	posted 09-05-2007 02:17 PM ET (US) Hi bben - My wait to order a new Montauk 170 is almost over. I got a price quote last week from a local dealer for a 2008 Montauk 170, and every charge was itemized and matched the prices listed on the Boston Whaler website. The additional charges on the invoice were for dealer prep, and a freight charge for shipping the boat from the factory to the dealership. The shipping charge by itself is near $1,000. I don't know if freight is a standard addition to the base price, but I only want the red trim with a black bimini top, and this dealer claims to only order blue for their in-stock inventory. I am also very specific about which options I want, and which I don't. They will order the boat from Boston Whaler equipped exactly as I want it, but I have to pay the shipping. I spoke to the dealership about all the trailers that could be ordered with the Montauk 170, and discovered that even the aluminum trailer comes with 13" tires as the only size possible. I won't have a trailer with under 14" tires because of the distance I trailer a boat every year - about 10,000/year average. I decided to order the boat with the basic trailer, and have contacted a Loadmaster trailer dealer who will build a custom aluminum trailer with 14" tires for the 2008 Montauk 170, and take the basic trailer in trade.
Feejer	posted 09-05-2007 02:23 PM ET (US) I know Clews and Strawbridge very well. I'm about 30 minutes from them and took my 2005 [Boston Whaler boat] there after I purchased it to have them check it out and add some options. Jim is a very nice guy and gave me some real good pricing. But I found a used 2005 with 18 hours on the engine and could not pass up the deal. I think their prices are inline with other dealers around. I for one would have second thoughts on adding trailer brakes on such a light package. My last two boat were over 4,500-lbs and I did have SS disc brakes on them. But with the Montauk 17 package around 2,500 [lbs?] I would not buy them unless is was required by your tow car or truck. The constant clunking from the trailer brake tongue everytime I would stop drove me nuts
Jefecinco	posted 09-05-2007 07:29 PM ET (US) Reference those plastic fenders. My trailer is eight years old and two days ago I replaced the plastic fenders for the second time. At least they are affordable, about $30 each at West Marine, and very easy to replace. Only held on by four bolts. It'll be necessary to move the yellow and red reflectors, too. I use rivets to hold mine to the fenders as I find the adhesive to fail early. If I could find aluminum diamond plate replacements that are "piece part replacements" I would use them. But my trailer was built with crossmember placement for an exact fit for the plastic fenders. I'd go for the aluminum just for the fender quality. Butch
bben	posted 09-05-2007 07:38 PM ET (US) Thanks for all of the replies. So it looks like I am leaning toward the aluminum trailer. One final question: the aluminum trailer is a torsion axle set up and I have done a little digging and some say the torsion set up is prone to rust without warning, whereas, the leaf spring set up will also rust but is visible and easy to repalce. Any final thoughts on this piece? Thank you again. Ben
jimh	posted 09-05-2007 09:04 PM ET (US) My impression is that torsion axles tend to carry the trailer frame lower to the ground, and this is an improvement. It makes the boat easier to launch as you do not have to back the trailer as far down the ramp to get the boat to float off of the trailer.
Jefecinco	posted 09-06-2007 07:24 PM ET (US) Eight years on torsion axles in salt water. No problems. Butch
Whalerdog	posted 09-06-2007 10:27 PM ET (US) Torsion on most types of trailer rides better then springs. Good Luck on yur possible purchase.