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Alan H posted 10-20-2008 11:09 PM ET (US)
Is a 115-HP Mercury FOURSTROKE enough power for a Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK? I may buy one. Thanks for the advice,
Alan
Graumann posted 10-21-2008 12:50 AM ET (US)
My 190 MONTAUK with the 115-HP Mercury FOURSTROKE is OK out of the hole, and does 40-MPH on the GPS. Problem is that 40-MPH doesn't seem fast at all because the engine is so quiet, and the center console blocks most of the wind. If you'll look at the motor comparison charts on WHALER.COM, adding the 135-HP Verado doesn't improve things that much. Neither motor will make the 190 a hot rod. She is, however, a fisherman's dream come true that I have total faith in getting me home when the weather goes south.
Search for '190 Montauk' on this page for lots more discussion on the 190.
Keith
jimh posted 10-21-2008 09:29 AM ET (US)
[Moved to POST-CLASSIC from another discussion area.]
jimh posted 10-21-2008 09:33 AM ET (US)
Performance data about the 190 MONTAUK is given in
http://www.whaler.com/site_media/Performance_Data/190MT_EnginePerf.pdf
Performance data published by Boston Whaler has generally been confirmed by owner experience.
Whaler_Jack posted 10-22-2008 07:52 PM ET (US)
Alan,
I have the Merc 115. No, it's not real quick out of the hole full of gas and 4 pass. however, it will do the job. Light loads it's ok. I can say it's VERY economical. My average fuel burn is appr. 3 gph on my first 100hrs. It's a very stable boat great for most anything. I've fished the bay and 40 miles offshore (weather permitting) and pulled the grand kids on the tube. I think I'll have this one for a while!
Jack
highanddry posted 10-22-2008 08:51 PM ET (US)
The Montauk 190 is undergoing the same horsepower growth the original Nantucket 190 has undergone. The Nantucket (same as Outrage 190) began with a 115 horse and was woefully underpowered. Now it currently sports a 200 horse Verado as maximum power. The Montauk 190 started with a 115 and is woefully underpowered and is currently evolving to a 135 and obviously before all is done it will sport at least a 150.
swist posted 10-23-2008 09:17 AM ET (US)
I have a 170 with 90/hp. Neighbor has a 190 with/115 hp. Looking at the statistics, the 190 is 35% heavier, but the 115 hp motor is only 27% more powerful.
The 90 hp is adequate to somewhat better than adequate for my boat. A barn-burner it is not.
When I watch my neighbor take off from the adjacent mooring, you can clearly see its planing performance is less snappy than mine, even without measuring anything, and this is not with a big load.
Although I was initially green with envy when they got their 190, I am not sure I would be happy with the 115 hp, and to bolt on more HP would be defeating a major reason I went with the 170 to begin with - fuel economy.
Whalerdog posted 10-23-2008 05:46 PM ET (US)
I had as choice of 07 or 08 and it was 8,000 more. 115 is ok depending on your needs. 4 people full of fuel amd gear it may be sluggish. I have the 115 but it usually two people so it is decent 40 mph 135 probably 44 mph. I raced offshore boats for years some as fast as 145 mph and I am not stressed by the 115. Burns very little fuel. 135 doesn't burn that much more at the same speed if you look at the Mercury data which I feel is good.
Money bot a big concern go 135 but 115 is good for most. Compare even a 24 Outrage and look at planning speed the 115 is not that slow.
sheikofthesea posted 10-29-2008 09:26 AM ET (US)
"Woefully underpowered" is a bit unfair. The Montauk 190 is not a speedboat.It is a superskiff with incredible versatilty that allows it to go into back bays out onto open water and is about as stable, reliable, fuel efficient and safe as you can imagine. One guy on here kiddingly refers to it at Das TUB. Well he is right in one sense. Having the Montauk has turned Long Island Sound and the New York Bight into my bathtub. And I have never had so much fun.

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Author	Topic: 190 MONTAUK Power Options
Alan H	posted 10-20-2008 11:09 PM ET (US) Is a 115-HP Mercury FOURSTROKE enough power for a Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK? I may buy one. Thanks for the advice, Alan
Graumann	posted 10-21-2008 12:50 AM ET (US) My 190 MONTAUK with the 115-HP Mercury FOURSTROKE is OK out of the hole, and does 40-MPH on the GPS. Problem is that 40-MPH doesn't seem fast at all because the engine is so quiet, and the center console blocks most of the wind. If you'll look at the motor comparison charts on WHALER.COM, adding the 135-HP Verado doesn't improve things that much. Neither motor will make the 190 a hot rod. She is, however, a fisherman's dream come true that I have total faith in getting me home when the weather goes south. Search for '190 Montauk' on this page for lots more discussion on the 190. Keith
jimh	posted 10-21-2008 09:29 AM ET (US) [Moved to POST-CLASSIC from another discussion area.]
jimh	posted 10-21-2008 09:33 AM ET (US) Performance data about the 190 MONTAUK is given in http://www.whaler.com/site_media/Performance_Data/190MT_EnginePerf.pdf Performance data published by Boston Whaler has generally been confirmed by owner experience.
Whaler_Jack	posted 10-22-2008 07:52 PM ET (US) Alan, I have the Merc 115. No, it's not real quick out of the hole full of gas and 4 pass. however, it will do the job. Light loads it's ok. I can say it's VERY economical. My average fuel burn is appr. 3 gph on my first 100hrs. It's a very stable boat great for most anything. I've fished the bay and 40 miles offshore (weather permitting) and pulled the grand kids on the tube. I think I'll have this one for a while! Jack
highanddry	posted 10-22-2008 08:51 PM ET (US) The Montauk 190 is undergoing the same horsepower growth the original Nantucket 190 has undergone. The Nantucket (same as Outrage 190) began with a 115 horse and was woefully underpowered. Now it currently sports a 200 horse Verado as maximum power. The Montauk 190 started with a 115 and is woefully underpowered and is currently evolving to a 135 and obviously before all is done it will sport at least a 150.
swist	posted 10-23-2008 09:17 AM ET (US) I have a 170 with 90/hp. Neighbor has a 190 with/115 hp. Looking at the statistics, the 190 is 35% heavier, but the 115 hp motor is only 27% more powerful. The 90 hp is adequate to somewhat better than adequate for my boat. A barn-burner it is not. When I watch my neighbor take off from the adjacent mooring, you can clearly see its planing performance is less snappy than mine, even without measuring anything, and this is not with a big load. Although I was initially green with envy when they got their 190, I am not sure I would be happy with the 115 hp, and to bolt on more HP would be defeating a major reason I went with the 170 to begin with - fuel economy.
Whalerdog	posted 10-23-2008 05:46 PM ET (US) I had as choice of 07 or 08 and it was 8,000 more. 115 is ok depending on your needs. 4 people full of fuel amd gear it may be sluggish. I have the 115 but it usually two people so it is decent 40 mph 135 probably 44 mph. I raced offshore boats for years some as fast as 145 mph and I am not stressed by the 115. Burns very little fuel. 135 doesn't burn that much more at the same speed if you look at the Mercury data which I feel is good. Money bot a big concern go 135 but 115 is good for most. Compare even a 24 Outrage and look at planning speed the 115 is not that slow.
sheikofthesea	posted 10-29-2008 09:26 AM ET (US) "Woefully underpowered" is a bit unfair. The Montauk 190 is not a speedboat.It is a superskiff with incredible versatilty that allows it to go into back bays out onto open water and is about as stable, reliable, fuel efficient and safe as you can imagine. One guy on here kiddingly refers to it at Das TUB. Well he is right in one sense. Having the Montauk has turned Long Island Sound and the New York Bight into my bathtub. And I have never had so much fun.