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davepetroski posted 10-28-2008 08:23 AM ET (US)
Hello, I just joined this forum after reading off and on over the last summer. I purchased a 2000 OUTRAGE 18 with Honda 130 this past spring. The boat met all my expectations for use in the Maryland area. I keep it in a slip and it was there from April until last Saturday.
My concerns:
I put it on the trailer which was surprisingly easy. Getting the power winch to pull the last two to three feet was a pain. I didn't plan it well and pulled a battery from the compartment to power the winch. What is a good method to power a winch motor when its used twice a year? What about one of those car jump start batteries they sell at target? Could a small Honda EU generator work? I would like an excuse to buy an EU2000 anyway. I hate to rig a dedicated battery that would be used so infrequently.
The battery compartment area was full of water when I got on the trailer. Is this normal? I pulled the brass keel plug to let it drain before I pulled it to the yard. When I disconnected the battery a nut fell loose and I couldn't find it. Could it have clogged the drain?
I stopped at a carwash and washed off all the mud and junk from the season. I also wanted to get the saltwater off. I plan to get the dealer to flush it out but what else should I have them do? I don't think the "winterizing" treatment is necessarily worthwhile but would like to hear what would be beneficial. Next April I plan to pick it up and put it back in the slip. What maintenance should be performed annually?
Thanks

jimh posted 10-28-2008 08:42 AM ET (US)
If you only load the boat on the trailer once a year, I'd get a manual winch.
jimh posted 10-28-2008 08:55 AM ET (US)
The owner's manual for your Honda outboard will have a section which explains the recommended annual maintenance and the procedure for preparing the motor for winter storage. Most owners of a four-cycle outboard motor change the crankcase oil at the end of the season. The lubricating oil has been contaminated by a season of use, and rather than let it sit in the oil sump all winter, it is a good idea to change. This lets the engine sit in storage with clean, fresh oil.
jimh posted 10-28-2008 08:58 AM ET (US)
If is common that the engine splash well can take on water during the process of loading the boat on the trailer. In most Boston Whaler boats the engine splash well drains to the sea, and any water than enters can drain easily.
All debris that falls into the bilge space on a boat goes directly to the point in the drainage system where it can cause the most problem. This is a well-known corollary of Murphy's Law.
Moose posted 10-30-2008 10:14 AM ET (US)
I have the same Outrage. My trailer came with a manual winch. I wouldn't mess with all that battery/generator stuff for one use per year.
Other than vacations, when it's in the water for the whole week, I launch and retrieve for every use. It's never been a problem. Usually it needs to be cranked up the last 4 or 5 feet, occasionally a two hander for the last foot or two is necessary. However, I did have rotator cuff surgery last winter, not sure if there is any connection....
boatdryver posted 10-30-2008 01:59 PM ET (US)
all manual trailer winches are not created equal. check yours over. If it is not a two speed with a long handle get some local advice and bolt on one with more mechanical advantage. It is real simple to do assuming there is clearance from the bow of the boat for the handle to rotate.
If you can't back the trailer in to the water any further with your tow car, you can get a 2 foot extension for your hitch called a stinger which you would only use at the ramp, not to tow.
JimL
Stinger23OR posted 10-30-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)
I second that suggestion on the 2 speed, it does make that last 2 feet or so of cranking real easy. (at least for this old man)
fishinchips posted 10-30-2008 09:05 PM ET (US)
could you power up the boat onto the trailer? Reason why I ask is some areas won't let you do that.
I do that on my hydrasports 22 wa. Works really good.
Ken
boatdryver posted 10-31-2008 09:17 AM ET (US)
One other thought is to find a steeper ramp. they vary quite a bit where I boat.
JimL
RonB posted 11-03-2008 08:46 PM ET (US)
Dave,
I had the same boat with a 135HP Opti, I sold it to someone on the West Coast in 2006. I never had water in my battery compartment. My battery compartment was below deck in the center console. It was meant to store two batteries. Somehow you are getting water in your center console. Check to make sure the hoses are attached to your cup holders in the center console.
I do agree with Jimh as far as the winching, a manual winch, if you run the boat up onto the trailer should suffice. I do understand your concern though, it is a heavy boat especially if you have a full 90 gallon tank. Be sure to wet your bunks before loading too.
Ron

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Author	Topic: 2000 Outrage 18
davepetroski	posted 10-28-2008 08:23 AM ET (US) Hello, I just joined this forum after reading off and on over the last summer. I purchased a 2000 OUTRAGE 18 with Honda 130 this past spring. The boat met all my expectations for use in the Maryland area. I keep it in a slip and it was there from April until last Saturday. My concerns: I put it on the trailer which was surprisingly easy. Getting the power winch to pull the last two to three feet was a pain. I didn't plan it well and pulled a battery from the compartment to power the winch. What is a good method to power a winch motor when its used twice a year? What about one of those car jump start batteries they sell at target? Could a small Honda EU generator work? I would like an excuse to buy an EU2000 anyway. I hate to rig a dedicated battery that would be used so infrequently. The battery compartment area was full of water when I got on the trailer. Is this normal? I pulled the brass keel plug to let it drain before I pulled it to the yard. When I disconnected the battery a nut fell loose and I couldn't find it. Could it have clogged the drain? I stopped at a carwash and washed off all the mud and junk from the season. I also wanted to get the saltwater off. I plan to get the dealer to flush it out but what else should I have them do? I don't think the "winterizing" treatment is necessarily worthwhile but would like to hear what would be beneficial. Next April I plan to pick it up and put it back in the slip. What maintenance should be performed annually? Thanks
jimh	posted 10-28-2008 08:42 AM ET (US) If you only load the boat on the trailer once a year, I'd get a manual winch.
jimh	posted 10-28-2008 08:55 AM ET (US) The owner's manual for your Honda outboard will have a section which explains the recommended annual maintenance and the procedure for preparing the motor for winter storage. Most owners of a four-cycle outboard motor change the crankcase oil at the end of the season. The lubricating oil has been contaminated by a season of use, and rather than let it sit in the oil sump all winter, it is a good idea to change. This lets the engine sit in storage with clean, fresh oil.
jimh	posted 10-28-2008 08:58 AM ET (US) If is common that the engine splash well can take on water during the process of loading the boat on the trailer. In most Boston Whaler boats the engine splash well drains to the sea, and any water than enters can drain easily. All debris that falls into the bilge space on a boat goes directly to the point in the drainage system where it can cause the most problem. This is a well-known corollary of Murphy's Law.
Moose	posted 10-30-2008 10:14 AM ET (US) I have the same Outrage. My trailer came with a manual winch. I wouldn't mess with all that battery/generator stuff for one use per year. Other than vacations, when it's in the water for the whole week, I launch and retrieve for every use. It's never been a problem. Usually it needs to be cranked up the last 4 or 5 feet, occasionally a two hander for the last foot or two is necessary. However, I did have rotator cuff surgery last winter, not sure if there is any connection....
boatdryver	posted 10-30-2008 01:59 PM ET (US) all manual trailer winches are not created equal. check yours over. If it is not a two speed with a long handle get some local advice and bolt on one with more mechanical advantage. It is real simple to do assuming there is clearance from the bow of the boat for the handle to rotate. If you can't back the trailer in to the water any further with your tow car, you can get a 2 foot extension for your hitch called a stinger which you would only use at the ramp, not to tow. JimL
Stinger23OR	posted 10-30-2008 06:35 PM ET (US) I second that suggestion on the 2 speed, it does make that last 2 feet or so of cranking real easy. (at least for this old man)
fishinchips	posted 10-30-2008 09:05 PM ET (US) could you power up the boat onto the trailer? Reason why I ask is some areas won't let you do that. I do that on my hydrasports 22 wa. Works really good. Ken
boatdryver	posted 10-31-2008 09:17 AM ET (US) One other thought is to find a steeper ramp. they vary quite a bit where I boat. JimL
RonB	posted 11-03-2008 08:46 PM ET (US) Dave, I had the same boat with a 135HP Opti, I sold it to someone on the West Coast in 2006. I never had water in my battery compartment. My battery compartment was below deck in the center console. It was meant to store two batteries. Somehow you are getting water in your center console. Check to make sure the hoses are attached to your cup holders in the center console. I do agree with Jimh as far as the winching, a manual winch, if you run the boat up onto the trailer should suffice. I do understand your concern though, it is a heavy boat especially if you have a full 90 gallon tank. Be sure to wet your bunks before loading too. Ron