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ndorado posted 09-19-2009 11:42 AM ET (US)   Profile for ndorado   Send Email to ndorado  
Hey guys. Great site. I am looking for some advice on a 2008 320 OUTRAGE, equipped with two Northstar 6000i units, 6-kW RADAR, autopilot, and a lot of other extras. It is powered by twin 275-HP Verado motors. The boat is brand new, a leftover. I am coming from a [Grady-White] 226 Seafarer, so a cuddy to a center console. What can some of you 320 owners tell me about this boat? I have done a search but I would like some newer comments about how you feel after owning for a few years. Hey. Thanks a lot, guys. Lookin' forward to being part of the family.
jimh posted 09-19-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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Robert V posted 09-21-2009 07:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Robert V  Send Email to Robert V     
Wow, now that's a purchase! I can't speak to the ride of the 320 Outrage but a dealer close to me (Bobby's Marine in Burgess, VA) has a nice leftover for sale as well. This guy knows the boat well, as he has run them alot. Even if you don't buy from him, he's the type that will give you an honest opinion of the boat. His name is Joey and he can be reached at 804-761-6335. Good luck and keep us posted on your purchase, welcome aboard!

Robert V
Williamsburg, VA

ndorado posted 09-25-2009 07:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     

Will be going to the dealership tomorrow to finalize some paperwork. I would definately like some opinions and feedback from 320 outrage owners about the goods & bads about this boat. It seems like there is alot of whaler bashing on some sites so getting good minfo is quite hard. How is the ride on this boat, does it pound like some say? Thanks for your replays.
Feejer posted 09-25-2009 08:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Finalize paper work? and your asking about the ride. Didn't you sea trail the boat yet? I'm 90 minutes from the NJ coast. I'll help you sea trail : )

ndorado posted 09-25-2009 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
cant sea trial for 8hrs in all types of sea conditions so the only way to really get some good feedback is to ask questions and get answers from some owners of the boat. Looked at alot of boats and kept going back to this one. It fit both family and fishing needs. Plus the price was incredible. Alot of knock on the boats ride in a heaqd sea. Just lookin for some extra info. Thanks.
Feejer posted 09-26-2009 01:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Can't sea trail the boat for 8 hours???

If the dealer wants to sell you the boat he'll take you out for the whole day if you want. Don't forget, your in the drivers seat.

glen e posted 09-26-2009 03:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Doesn't get it does he, Laz? Let's hope he has better luck than the guy on my site that took the boat straight to the ramp on a Sunday after he took it from the dealer with no sea trial.The dealer had put it on set of muffs, started it up and pronounced it "good to go". The customer said "OK!" and drove off with his new boat. Got to the ramp and put it in the water with others waiting in line and it would not shift, due to a shifter component. As he floated away....

Who buys a 200K purchase without a thorough sea trial? And what kind of dealer does not give one?

ndorado posted 09-26-2009 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
Gentleman I will m be doing a sea trial before the money is transferred, but i believe thst you can not asses the boat in only a few hours. When i sea trialed my Grady in 01' it was for about 3 or 4 hours. I was coming from an i/o to an outboard, things were alot different. It took me a good few months before i was able to fully understand all aspects of my boat. If you are able to accomplish that in a few hours of time on a new boat after spending many hours on your old boat then you are a better person than i am. I am not making a blind purchsse, but my purpose of this thread was to ask all owners of this boat what there thoghts and experiences were. I like to have as much info about a product before i buy it, hands on knowledge is limited as i do not own the boat yet and am limited as to a sea trial, so the best way is to ask questions to those with hands on experience. Thank you!!
glen e posted 09-26-2009 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
I agree - a notepad and a good cruise is all you need for a sea trial - I was referring to buying with NO sea trial. We see it all the time.
kenv posted 09-27-2009 12:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
Ndorado

You mentioned something about family and fishing needs. My dad is on his second 320 and loves the boat. He/we are not hard core tourney fisherman, and the boat has kids out fishing quite a bit, and also alot of dolphin/sunset cruises. It is a great family boat and looks awesome on the water. Not as fast as most 32's with 275 Verado's but does about 50-51. It is a heavy boat. Has a very dry ride, does pound a little, but not extreme. Handles ok around the docks, would be nice to have bow thrusters, but not necessary. The view driving is great. We found it trolls very well with nice propwash. Like others will say, there are ALOT of great 32's out there, this isn't theee boat for everyone, but, it is one of Whaler's best ever. Post back if you have more specific questions.

KenV - Texas

ndorado posted 09-27-2009 10:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
hey kenv thank you very much for the response. Thats what i have been waiting for. I will be using the b0at for some canyon trips which are about 70-80miles offshore and for family cruising. The enclosed head really makes the ladies happy so do the bow seats for sitting in the sun. What is your optimal cruising speed? Coming from a 22' grady which cruised at 23knts with a top speed of 32knts to a boat that cruises at what my top speed was is going to be a significant increase. When you say pounds a little, does that mean in a head sea with lets say 2-3ft seas or 4-5ft seas? Hey thanks again for all the info, anything else you can tell me will be greatly appreciated. We love the look and layout of this boat and with the 23 degree deadrise at the transom i feel it will mbe more stable then those boats with 24 degrees. Thanks again.
kenv posted 09-27-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
ndorado,

In 2-3 you can't even feel them. It's more like you say, 4-6 where it hits a little hard, but not bad. Optimum crusing speed we find is + - 35 mph. You will definetly love the twin Verados over the inboard. Quite like kittens and responsive. We did just have an oil leak issue on one engine, but it was fixed by the dealer after a couple of gasket changes.

kenv posted 09-27-2009 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
Sorry...I see now the boat before the Grady was the I/O, not the Grady.
hauptjm posted 09-29-2009 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
On many high-end boat purchases, the seller allows for a commissioning period set by both parties. If the vessel doesn't meet a preset punch list of items necessary to the safe and confident seafaring use of the vessel, then the sale is voided and the vessel is returned to the seller. All systems would be checked for operation, function and repair.

Obviously, if you can obtain (some commissions require this) a licensed surveyor to do the commission, then both parties are assured the resulting commission will be thorough and competent. On a personal note, if I were spending anything like what a 320 Outrage costs, I would not complete the purchase without one.

Many high-end manufacturers won't complete a sale until they have put 12 or more hours at sea trials testing all systems. I believe this accomplishes two things: better customer satisfaction and less liability on the manufacturer. What a concept!

ndorado posted 09-29-2009 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
just got back from the dealer and he is stil prepping the boat, bottom paint was done electronics being tuned, i am working and visiting every other day. the boat will be launched on thursday or friday and trialed by the dealer to get all the gremlins out. I will be there on saturday for my sea trial and a check list. Saturday looks like wind and rain, a perfect day for a sea trial.
Feejer posted 09-30-2009 07:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Sounds like things are moving along, good luck on Saturday. What electronics are you having installed?
Feejer posted 09-30-2009 12:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Make sure you check out the Verado Club http://www.veradoclub.com

For tips and great information on your new Verado engines

ndorado posted 09-30-2009 04:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
We are getting real close. Im very excited. The boat is coming with two Northstar 6000i 10.4" screens with northstar 6kw radar, northstar autopilot, northstar radio which im not crazy about, clarion radio with remote, 600w transducer, remote spotlight. Getting excited just talking about it. Windless anchor too. Coming from a 22' with single 200 yamaha to a beast with twin 275 Verado engines is going to be fun.
Feejer posted 10-01-2009 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Make sure you post some photos of the new boat
kenv posted 10-01-2009 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
The Remote anchor windlass is cool. Super easy to use..but watch your fingers. Also, ocassionaly, the anchor will spin around when it is coming up into the holding area...so take it slow/work it in slow in the final inches. I've wedged it in crooked several times and had to kick it out with my foot. You'll see what I mean when you use it. Post some pics when you get it. Post back with any other questions.

Ken

ndorado posted 10-04-2009 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
Well i am a proud owner of a 2008 Boston Whaler 320 outrage. My story goes like this, got to the dealership went over the whole boat, found out that the autopilot wasnt working. One screw that holds the cover for the throttles was missing and the boat was dirty. Other than that everything was great. Took the boat for a little sea trial took some bumps top rpm were 6100, got back to te dealer and signed and drove away. Now forcast was calling small craft till 1 pm. Winds out of the se at 10-15 gusts to 20. We left manasquan at about 1 pm. The inlet was tight with 6 fts, some even bigger. Boat ran right through it. We were then welcomed with 4-6ft seas for a 46 mile run down to Little egg inlet. This boat is a tank. Yes it did pound on some waves BUT it felt so solid, nothing rattled or came loose. Engines performed flawless and i was so impressed on how they put you back in your seat when you floor them. These are powerful engines especially with the rev 4 props. We had the boat airborn a few times, props out the water, some landings were soft, you know waiting for that pound but it never came, some were hard. No problem because i never felt nervous. I stopped the boat a tone pint and turned her broadside to the sea, she rolled and settled back quickly. Thats important especially when drifting or at anchor. Never was i once tossed around. Boat tracks realty well especially in the following sea we hit when coming into the inlet. Upon entering the sea settled down at that point i slammed on the throttles again to sea what top speed i could get an we hit 48.5mph with motors trimmed up only a bit. I will trim more next time to tweak a bit and see what i get. All in all my dad and i are really happy with the performance of this boat and its ability to stay real dry. Not a drop of water came in the boat, never stuffed the bow, she ran high and dry. There was not one person out there which made me feel real good becuase this boat ran great. Thanks for all your imput guys and Kenv, thanks for your real world input. I will update alter with more on this boat. Tight lines guys thanks.
Feejer posted 10-04-2009 06:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
This thread is useless without photo's. Even if the boat was dirty, post some pics.
themclos posted 10-05-2009 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Congratulations on the new Outrage! You certainly picked a good day for your sea trial. Operating in those conditions certainly gave you a taste of what to expect when you are considering a run offshore.

I look forward to hearing more about your experiences with this boat.

Dan

The Panther posted 10-05-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for The Panther    
Feejer - curious as to why you would say that "this thread is useless without photos"? The guy asked for real world input to help with a major purchasing decision and get any general "good-to-know" information from actual owners and experiences about the specific product he was considering and was accosted like he was a foolish dolt that does not understand the first thing about spending his own money. He then comes back with a pretty full and detailed report of conditions, thoughts and events from his first time out and you call it "useless" ... because you can't see a picture of his dirty boat?

- Really? -

Are you still reading your kids books with the little pictures that helps you understand and follow along too? Tell ya what - open a second browser tab, go to whaler dot com, look up the 320 and pretend. ;-) (I'm teasing you...)

C'mon guy - I believe you are being waaaaaay too harsh in your judgement here. The man asked for information that you obviously could not provide, yet you had no trouble bashing him as a fool right off the bat and you call his thread useless because there are no pictures of his boat......

Sorry to clutter your thread ndorado, but the initial responses you received here from "non-contributors" struck me (as in not contributing anything to the thread) - I am especially surprised seeing who it came from. Feejer is an excellent contributor and usually a great source of information. He must have ran out of milk for the Wheaties that day and felt a little surly. (Actually, I bet he is just dying to get a look at your electronics.....)

Anyway - Welcome to this site, you will find it usually very informative and usually good natured for the most part - Sounds like you made a very informed and wise choice - Good luck and happy fishing! We look forward to hearing (and seeing) more on this fabulous boat so, ndorado...... post some pictures when you get a chance please - I too want to see this Beast of the Pine Barrens. You can use a photo hosting site such as photobucket etc - we can not post pictures directly in-line with the threads here - only a moderator can do that (if you do see photos in threads) - and someone will help you turn your links on like this one if you need:

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http://continuouswave.com/ubb/ubbcode.html


Tight Lines,
Max

Feejer posted 10-05-2009 12:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Max
I guess you missed the joke. I guess I'm used to seeing photo's of owners new boats on THT. Sorry, no harm meant.
The Panther posted 10-05-2009 02:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for The Panther    
Feej - you are right. Sorry about that - I read too much into it myself. That's the problem with written words - the reader can intone their own inflection which can change the meaning and intent drastically - I need to become a better reader.

And yep - I too eagerly await proud Pappa showing of his "kid's first bath" photos.

Have a good week.

Feejer posted 10-05-2009 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
No problem

Now where are these photo's of the new 32?

kenv posted 10-06-2009 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
Lets see some photos of a new 37!!!!
ndorado posted 10-12-2009 03:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
How do you post pics on here?
Feejer posted 10-12-2009 03:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
You can't directly put them up here. You must use Photobucket or another program like that. Put them on THT and post that link
Feejer posted 10-12-2009 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
I personally like https://www.phanfare.com
ndorado posted 10-13-2009 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for ndorado  Send Email to ndorado     
Maybe this will work.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/247511-my-new-boat-bw-320-outrage.html
Feejer posted 10-13-2009 06:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/ 247511-my-new-boat-bw-320-outrage.html

What a great looking rig

Robert V posted 10-14-2009 09:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Robert V  Send Email to Robert V     
Nice looking boat, I saw the pics on THT yesterday. I really like the electronics package. Enjoy your new boat,

Robert

kenv posted 10-14-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for kenv  Send Email to kenv     
Another great looking 320. Enjoy. Side note: It was 91 here today in SA Texas, feels like August fishing weather!!
high sierra posted 10-18-2009 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for high sierra  Send Email to high sierra     
Awesome boat! high sierra

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