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RobP posted 11-02-2010 11:35 AM ET (US)   Profile for RobP   Send Email to RobP  
Has anyone seen or heard of a Power Pole installed on a 220 Outrage?

We have on our 200 Dauntless and LOVE IT thinking about one on an Outrage were considering and wanted to know if it would be too out of place.

Also this boat does not have the windlass and the opening into the anchor locker looks kind of small to get the chain through. What size chain fits through the opening? Some of the pictures on the Whaler web site show rope tied to the anchor, I'm not too fond of that.

Thanks
Rob

jimh posted 11-05-2010 07:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Rob--To answer your direct question: I have not heard of or seen a Power Pole installed on a 220 OUTRAGE.
SJUAE posted 11-06-2010 12:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
I must confess had no idea what a power pole was although I had seen some tall black poles fitted to some bass boats so now I know :)

Check your wood locations at whalerparts I'm sure there should be no problem for a stern mount near port trim tab

You are probably seeing rope as only the first 10-20ft is chain on most installations.

If you’re worried about your chain damaging the locker etc when you are pulling up the anchor manually fit a hawse pipe or lift the lid up.

The the 220 optional windlass is a ASTER 700W 1/4inch

http://www.whalerparts.com/Diagrams/2010/220%20Outrage/06151220OR.pdf

Regards
Steve

RobP posted 11-10-2010 06:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for RobP  Send Email to RobP     
The Power Pole is a shallow water (6-8') or less anchor system. It deploys at the push of a button, no chain noise no fuss. Since the 220 Outrage draft is only 3" more that our Dauntless we expect to use it frequently in shallower areas, although we will not have the flexibility that the trolling motor offers.

The issue I have with the 220 Outrage anchor locker is the opening on the side of the locker door appears small. I'm concerned that it may be difficult to place the chain through the opening and close the hatch while the anchor it stored in the bow anchor roller. The other question is how do you secure the anchor so that it stays in the anchor roller while underway. There is a cleat at the bow to tie off the anchor line but without something to secure the chain

I'm am a bit confused why Whaler would show in the photos of the boat the anchor tied off directly to the anchor line with no chain.

The windlass is about $3,000 to install according the the dealer which is pretty close to the option price. I may explore the hawse pipe option if it becomes a problem.

Jefecinco posted 11-10-2010 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Rob,

Chain is not required to have an effective anchoring system on all boats. I believe it serves two purposes; as an anti-chafe device when anchored to an abrasive bottom such as an oyster reef and as a catenary (sp?) to permit quick anchoring using a shorter rode. For a 22 foot boat in most conditions an anchor rode without a chain should serve as well as one with chain.

A weight attached to the anchor line about ten or so feet from the anchor will serve as an effective catenary and can easily be stowed in the locker while the anchor is secured to the bow roller.

Unless one is disabled, has a heavy anchor and rode, or anchors in deep water a windlass is unnecessary. It's just another device to be maintained in many cases.

I use chain as a matter of habit not of necessity. Every time I use the anchor I find myself worrying about damaging the gel coat. I think I'll remove it and see how that works out.

Butch

SJUAE posted 11-10-2010 12:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Rob

Look at item 67 in the PDF link I gave above is shows the anchor draw tight for securing the anchor

I would be most surprised in the lid opening is too small and I doubt very much you need to fit all chain in your setup

Check with your dealer he will advise and if the hole is too small then this should be remedied free of charge if it's a design fault

Regards
Steve

number9 posted 11-10-2010 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for number9  Send Email to number9     
Rob-

A PP would be out of place on classic and newer Whalers IMO...but really anything goes on both if it floats your boat. A telescoping non-conspicuous/high $/complicated design would be nice. Like the concept but most of the available products lack the aesthetics most Whaler owners appreciate.

In some shallower waters when one would like to quickly stop the drift of a boat with the push of a button it could be the BTSSC. As mentioned having a good reinforced mounting would be the key and calm water a must.

If you could find 3 or 4 strong mounting areas you could replicate the jack-up barge/rig origin and have a rock free platform too.

Bill


RobP posted 12-08-2010 07:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for RobP  Send Email to RobP     
I just thought I'd update you on the progress.

Ended having to have a bracket mount installed.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ QYns7RIAOe6pRRLOzwcdFtH5iCbmYDa2my98ztG0n8A?feat=directlink

Robert V posted 12-09-2010 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Robert V  Send Email to Robert V     
Rob,

Nice looking boat, the PP is a nice addition to the transom. I think it is a great idea and sounds like an ideal set-up for the type of boating you do. Congrats on a great looking boat, I really like the 220 Outrage. Wish I could provide some info on the chain/locker cover question, just not something I have seen in person. Enjoy the new ride!

Robert

SJUAE posted 12-09-2010 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Rob

Glad the stern mount worked out ok, how did you get on with the anchor locker ?

Let's see some more pics of your 220

Regards
Steve

RobP posted 12-11-2010 07:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for RobP  Send Email to RobP     
Thanks Steve;

Went out on a shakedown with the dealers captain yesterday. Very nice ride. Power Pole will be great! It does end up sitting in the water a bit while at rest and at slow speed but while on plane it is clear of the water. If I had to do it over again I would probably get the 3" vertical offset bracket, it would raise it enough to get it clear of the water. Power Pole says that it would not be a problem but why invite one.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uq9UR85WeM8/TQNoKMbQdsI/AAAAAAAAFAU/LpII7bbYoDY/ s144/DSC_0930.JPG

The anchor locker, not so good. I was told but the salesman that the chain would fit though the opening, he even said he checked it. When I got there they were just finishing up installing the chain latch (which does come in the Captain's Bag so no need to order it separate, but that is another story).

When they when to put the chain into the locker it would not shut. Well that will need to be resolved.

RobP posted 12-11-2010 07:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for RobP  Send Email to RobP     
Sorry for the thumbnail, Here is a better picture (I hope)

[img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uq9UR85WeM8/TQNoKMbQdsI/AAAAAAAAFAU/LpII7bbYoDY/s800/DSC_0930.JPG[/img]

RobP posted 12-11-2010 07:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for RobP  Send Email to RobP     
Opps

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uq9UR85WeM8/TQNoKMbQdsI/AAAAAAAAFAU/LpII7bbYoDY/ s800/DSC_0930.JPG

Jefecinco posted 12-11-2010 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Rob,

That's a nice looking bracket. Is it available from the Power Pole folks? You mention a 3" vertical offset bracket which would probably be better for my 190 Montauk. I will check out the availability of brackets from Power Pole.

Does your bracket through bolt to the motor well and the bilge?

Thanks.

Butch

SJUAE posted 12-11-2010 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Rob

Certaintly a different option :) My 9.9 kicker drags a little in the up/horizontal position until I'm on the plane then there's lots of clearance no doubt your pole is the same

How about some shots of the rest of your outfit and the chain locker

Is that the sales tag on the stern tow eye :) just love new boats, want one now.

Regards
Steve

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