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Bella con23 posted 02-28-2011 07:55 PM ET (US)
My neighbor is putting his 1999 Outrage 20 on the market, [but] there seems to be some controversy about the size [of his boat]. Could someone shed some light on this and help him out?
It seems that the [original classic Boston Whaler OUTRAGE V20] stopped production in the 1980's, even though [my neighbor's] boat is clearly labeled.--Joe
jimh posted 02-28-2011 08:14 PM ET (US)
[Moved to POST-CLASSIC.]
jimh posted 02-28-2011 08:17 PM ET (US)
The 1999 OUTRAGE 21 is a completely different boat than a c.1980 OUTRAGE V-20. What dimensions are you interesting in so you can help your neighbor?
jimh posted 02-28-2011 08:24 PM ET (US)
There is also a 1998 OUTRAGE 20. Perhaps your neighbor's boat is actually that model, with a model year 1999 designation.
Bella con23 posted 02-28-2011 10:51 PM ET (US)
Thank you Jim for clearing that up. I was beginning to wonder if the previous owner may have pulled a fast one.
He was under the impression it was a 2000 until I told him I could not find a 20 foot Outrage for that year.
Joe
onlyawhaler posted 03-01-2011 12:37 AM ET (US)
I have a 1999 Outrage 20. Its the same as the 1998.
During its first two years of production from 1996-7 it was called a 19 Outrage.
19-20 of that era is the same boat. The 1999 was called a limited and didn't appear in the catalogue. Probably because they were hold overs from 98 and just they just called them "limited.
Follow the link on my profile to see a few picture of mine
Great boats
Onlyawhaler
Bella con23 posted 03-01-2011 07:33 AM ET (US)
Thank you onlyawhaler. That is a clean machine!
Does the fact that it is a "limited" add anything to a 1999 Outrage 20's value? And do you have a feel for what this boat is worth out of NJ in the current market?
This boat is also exceptionally clean and maintained. The owner holds all service records over the years.
Thanks again,
Joe
onlyawhaler posted 03-01-2011 10:26 AM ET (US)
Hi Joe,
No idea what one would be worth in your local market. I think all boats are down in price and value due to the economy and gas prices.
I was very suprised however to see a week ago watching a 1996 19/20 ft Outrage in Southern California sell for $27,000 with quite a few bidders.
It was mint, 200 documented hours on the engine, nice trailer and canvas, but still, a suprisingly high price.
I saw an identical model, a 1997 in similar shape, languish around for months in our local market of Utah last summer before finally selling for $14,000 with trailer. It was a great deal. Obviously the area and market matter
I think the 99 year limited was really just some 1998 models that didn't get sold. It doesn't appear in the catalogues or NADA. Just on the title. It is the same as the 98 with the white side doors on the console, while the 96 and 97 have black console doors. The "limited" decal on the front of the center console is the only identifing item that shows it is a 1999 model
I think the engine on the boat you are considering is important. It is probably a Mercury Optimax. Check for hours if possible and condition like compression, service records. The boat is a great model, lots of storage, fish boxs, big center console with dual doors, but the engine makes or breaks the day. It is a big 20ft boat. Mine has a 225hp and I wouldn't want any less hp.
Good luck
Onlyawhaler
Bella con23 posted 03-01-2011 04:23 PM ET (US)
Good information onlyawhaler. Thank you for your help and I will let you know how it progresses.
Buoy posted 03-01-2011 08:52 PM ET (US)
My favorite whaler hull ever! Same as the 96-97 20" Dauntless, and 98-99 20" Ventura. Here are some specs:
Length 19' 8"
Beam 8' 4"
Draft 15"
Dry Weight 2350
Swamp Capacity 4800
Persons Capacity 9
Fuel Capacity 87
Max HP 225
Min HP 130
Engine Shaft 25"
Floater posted 10-16-2011 10:44 AM ET (US)
Guys,
I've owned this exact boat for almost two years now. It has been one of the best, most versatile, boats I've ever owned. I have the 200 Optimax on it and it pushes the boat over 50mph while cruising effortlessly at 30mph.
This summer, I completed a safe return, 30 miles through Lake Erie, in 6-7 foot waves. I would have turned around in the 25 sea Ray I used to own. If you can find this model I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
Mambo Minnow posted 10-16-2011 11:22 AM ET (US)
It's a nice post-classic model. I got a "RV lot neighbor" in FL two years ago that made a corporate move from Charleston, SC with one.

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Author	Topic: 1999 Outrage 20
Bella con23	posted 02-28-2011 07:55 PM ET (US) My neighbor is putting his 1999 Outrage 20 on the market, [but] there seems to be some controversy about the size [of his boat]. Could someone shed some light on this and help him out? It seems that the [original classic Boston Whaler OUTRAGE V20] stopped production in the 1980's, even though [my neighbor's] boat is clearly labeled.--Joe
jimh	posted 02-28-2011 08:14 PM ET (US) [Moved to POST-CLASSIC.]
jimh	posted 02-28-2011 08:17 PM ET (US) The 1999 OUTRAGE 21 is a completely different boat than a c.1980 OUTRAGE V-20. What dimensions are you interesting in so you can help your neighbor?
jimh	posted 02-28-2011 08:24 PM ET (US) There is also a 1998 OUTRAGE 20. Perhaps your neighbor's boat is actually that model, with a model year 1999 designation.
Bella con23	posted 02-28-2011 10:51 PM ET (US) Thank you Jim for clearing that up. I was beginning to wonder if the previous owner may have pulled a fast one. He was under the impression it was a 2000 until I told him I could not find a 20 foot Outrage for that year. Joe
onlyawhaler	posted 03-01-2011 12:37 AM ET (US) I have a 1999 Outrage 20. Its the same as the 1998. During its first two years of production from 1996-7 it was called a 19 Outrage. 19-20 of that era is the same boat. The 1999 was called a limited and didn't appear in the catalogue. Probably because they were hold overs from 98 and just they just called them "limited. Follow the link on my profile to see a few picture of mine Great boats Onlyawhaler
Bella con23	posted 03-01-2011 07:33 AM ET (US) Thank you onlyawhaler. That is a clean machine! Does the fact that it is a "limited" add anything to a 1999 Outrage 20's value? And do you have a feel for what this boat is worth out of NJ in the current market? This boat is also exceptionally clean and maintained. The owner holds all service records over the years. Thanks again, Joe
onlyawhaler	posted 03-01-2011 10:26 AM ET (US) Hi Joe, No idea what one would be worth in your local market. I think all boats are down in price and value due to the economy and gas prices. I was very suprised however to see a week ago watching a 1996 19/20 ft Outrage in Southern California sell for $27,000 with quite a few bidders. It was mint, 200 documented hours on the engine, nice trailer and canvas, but still, a suprisingly high price. I saw an identical model, a 1997 in similar shape, languish around for months in our local market of Utah last summer before finally selling for $14,000 with trailer. It was a great deal. Obviously the area and market matter I think the 99 year limited was really just some 1998 models that didn't get sold. It doesn't appear in the catalogues or NADA. Just on the title. It is the same as the 98 with the white side doors on the console, while the 96 and 97 have black console doors. The "limited" decal on the front of the center console is the only identifing item that shows it is a 1999 model I think the engine on the boat you are considering is important. It is probably a Mercury Optimax. Check for hours if possible and condition like compression, service records. The boat is a great model, lots of storage, fish boxs, big center console with dual doors, but the engine makes or breaks the day. It is a big 20ft boat. Mine has a 225hp and I wouldn't want any less hp. Good luck Onlyawhaler
Bella con23	posted 03-01-2011 04:23 PM ET (US) Good information onlyawhaler. Thank you for your help and I will let you know how it progresses.
Buoy	posted 03-01-2011 08:52 PM ET (US) My favorite whaler hull ever! Same as the 96-97 20" Dauntless, and 98-99 20" Ventura. Here are some specs: Length 19' 8" Beam 8' 4" Draft 15" Dry Weight 2350 Swamp Capacity 4800 Persons Capacity 9 Fuel Capacity 87 Max HP 225 Min HP 130 Engine Shaft 25"
Floater	posted 10-16-2011 10:44 AM ET (US) Guys, I've owned this exact boat for almost two years now. It has been one of the best, most versatile, boats I've ever owned. I have the 200 Optimax on it and it pushes the boat over 50mph while cruising effortlessly at 30mph. This summer, I completed a safe return, 30 miles through Lake Erie, in 6-7 foot waves. I would have turned around in the 25 sea Ray I used to own. If you can find this model I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
Mambo Minnow	posted 10-16-2011 11:22 AM ET (US) It's a nice post-classic model. I got a "RV lot neighbor" in FL two years ago that made a corporate move from Charleston, SC with one.