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| runpasthefence |
posted 06-22-2008 07:13 PM ET (US)  
Well, my project 15' Sport of about 2.5 years is complete. Well, these things are never really complete, but the boat is in a "complete enough for use and pictures" state. I'll make this brief, and will update this thread with pictures as they come. This adventure began with a 1985 15' Sport powered by a 2005 Yamaha 90. I sold this boat, and took on my dad's project 1979 15' which was already a bit of a custom craft. We flipped the boat and repaired a couple of decades of neglect and abuse. In addition, I fiberglassed and shaped a pad into the existing design of the hull. Furthermore, I extended the lifting strakes all the way to the stern. Complete sub-album for pad work- Next, we primed and painted the exterior with Awl Grip "Flag [url]Blue". Complete sub-album for paint work- Next, we flipped the boat and I began work on shaping the cavity that would house the custom aluminum fuel tank. The fuel tank now has a much nicer brass gas cap. Complete sub-album for tank and cavity work - After perfectly the previously primed interior, we shot the interior with Awl Grip's "Cream" color. I chose this color because it is very easy on your eyes in sunlight, and has a classic look. I used vinyl stickers to inlay a flag design in the non-skid pattern at the bow. The motor is a Heinz 57 jumble of different parts and years. Complete album showing various parts of the motor rebuild and repaint - I had planned on using an original 15' Center Console model console , but decided against it as it just didn't suite my taste. A friend who works at the neighboring carpentry shop offered to build my console. Pictures don't really do this thing justice, it really is a work of art. This album includes pictures of most wood components. The remainder of the process involved the rigging of the boats control and electronic systems and mounting all of the wood components. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ Reconstruction/IMG_1788.jpg Finally, a week after using the boat for the first time, I had a Sapele rub rail milled to fit the 15'. I epoxied, varnished, and installed it within a week. And here she is mostly complete. She still needs a few little things to tie up some loose ends, but I'm very happy for now. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ Complete/IMG_1944.jpg
Thanks for looking, and thanks for the great input over the past couple of years. Mick |
| dauntless14 |
posted 06-22-2008 07:49 PM ET (US)
Beautiful! I like the black Awl Grip. |
| jeffs22outrage |
posted 06-22-2008 07:55 PM ET (US)
Mick, Great Job and the boat looks beautiful. You should be very proud for her. |
| Bluejay15 |
posted 06-22-2008 11:13 PM ET (US)
The patience you have and attention to detail is amazing. Great job. How does she handle with the addition of the raised pad? Did you model the pad after an Action Marine or bass boat? What is the length and width of the pad? You have to give us some numbers. Nice rig. Jeremy |
| floatinghat |
posted 06-22-2008 11:15 PM ET (US)
Wow, that looks great. It looks like you have a rope tied around the girl's ankle. Did she make the trip back? |
| runpasthefence |
posted 06-23-2008 12:34 AM ET (US)
Thanks, the boat is Flag Blue. I really need to get a good picture that shows of the deep blue tones of the color. Jeremy, the pad's final shape and design isn't a direct copy of any other pad design. However, the basic dimensions and shape were derived from looking at the 15' Hydrostream Viper, smaller Allisons, Critchfields, and Actions. It's been so long since we did the pad work that I've completely forgotten its dimensions. I'll have to go back and measure. I'm on the rev limiter with my current prop, a 14x24 Yamaha Drag. This yields a top speed of about 62-MPH, and a cruise of about 40-MPH. The motor will definitely turn a larger prop as I'm getting to the rev limiter very quickly. Right now I'm looking for a 26 version of the same prop, or maybe a Mercury Chopper. I'll also disengage the rev limiter this week. I'd either like to turn this 24 up to about 6,400-RPM, or turn a new 26 to about 6,000 to 6,200. |
| runpasthefence |
posted 06-23-2008 12:36 AM ET (US)
Not around the ankle, but definitely in her hands...it's all she has to hold onto. I'm debating whether or not to have a very low profile aluminum rail fabricated to wrap the interior of the boat. Right now passengers are lacking a good place to grab hold of to secure themselves at speed. |
| minitauk85 |
posted 06-23-2008 06:47 AM ET (US)
Mick- All I've got to say is WOW!!! Very nice work all the way around! I hope you're able to bring her to the Lanier Rendezvous- I'n sure these guys would love to see her up close! Would love to see some pics of her running, maybe video. I would have guessed that all the wood would have raised her waterline significantly, but with that motor you're gonna need the weight up front. I love the idea of burying the fuel tank in the deck, those 15's need the deckspace. Hope to see you at Lanier and great work on that baby! -k |
| jimh |
posted 06-23-2008 09:13 AM ET (US)
Fantastic boat! |
| dnh |
posted 06-23-2008 10:09 AM ET (US)
Mick, That boat is great. It really is. The thing is, I know you will actually use it even though its such a "museum piece." There are a few other restored 15s sitting around in the warehouse on JI that never get used. They dont look as good as yours to start with. Yours is awesome. |
| brisboats |
posted 06-23-2008 10:24 AM ET (US)
Very, very nice boat Mick. The amount of work and thought is incredible. Thanks for sharing the work in progress. Looking forward to even more reports as you dial her in. Brian |
| Sal DiMercurio |
posted 06-23-2008 11:54 AM ET (US)
Absolutely beautiful, plus I like the horse power on it. What kind of top speed do you get? Sal |
| Sal DiMercurio |
posted 06-23-2008 11:56 AM ET (US)
Sorry, I missed the post that you said 62 mph,...awsome. Sal |
| Bluejay15 |
posted 06-23-2008 01:02 PM ET (US)
Mick, After looking at some of your pics it looks like you have been down to the Keys before. One of the pics looks like it was taken at the burned out bridge on Tarpon Creek in Sugarloaf Key. If you make it down this way again maybe we can do some whalering. Jeremy |
| DaveS |
posted 06-23-2008 01:05 PM ET (US)
Awesome! Totally Awesome! |
| runpasthefence |
posted 06-23-2008 09:42 PM ET (US)
k, Mounting the fuel tank "below deck" really did free up some much needed deck space. The battery is mounted under the console and really gives the deck a clean look. Furthermore, it centralizes and lowers the ever-moving weight of gasoline. At speed, on pad, the effect of the shift of 60lbs of fuel from side to side is minimal due to the location and design of the tank. I'm taking the Outrage to Rhode Island to visit a friend from school and take part in the RI rendezvous the week before Lanier. I'm saving the 15' for the lake. Hope to see you there. Nathan, thanks for the kind words. Ask anyone on the island, she's no trailer queen. I took her out this morning before work, as a matter of fact. Were you out at Cummings Point yesterday? I idled by and saw a boat that looked like yours. Sal, like I said, I took her out and it's amazing how fast she gets to the rev limiter. I need to jump up another couple of inches in pitch and disconnect the limiter, but I'm hesitant as I'm not sure if I want to know how fast she'll go. Jeremy, I've been trying to get back to the Keys ever since I went in 2005. The money involved is pretty restrictive, but now that the boat is complete I'm going to start saving for a winter trip to Cudjoe. Tarpon Creek was a pretty sweet location. I love the little mangrove creeks down there, perfect for our 15's. I'll let you know if I get something planned out. Jim, thanks for the in-line picture. |
| andygere |
posted 06-23-2008 09:55 PM ET (US)
Looks great, fantastic work. |
| where2 |
posted 06-23-2008 10:14 PM ET (US)
Mick, If you need a stopping off place ~5 hours north of the keys on one of your trips, drop me an email. I'm at the northern end of the solid metropolis that runs from Homestead to Jupiter. (yes, I'm on the water) I know what you mean about saving up for the keys. I was amazed when I was there in early 2005 and a tent site at a campground was $50/nite! That's one sweet 15. I'm sure my 15's would be jealous if they saw her in person. |
| Tele65 |
posted 06-24-2008 03:18 AM ET (US)
...terrific job! more than a simple inspiration for my winter refurbishing project of my ole 13' sport Congrats!!! |
| filthypit |
posted 06-24-2008 09:49 AM ET (US)
SPEED-DEMON!!! |
| cgodfrey |
posted 06-24-2008 04:28 PM ET (US)
The only suitable name for this boat is DEATH WISH. Putting a tricked-out 115hp on a boat rated for 70ho is asking for trouble. But I think blowing the wraparound shades off Joe Bob MetalFlakeBassboat's face might make it worth it. CG |
| dnh |
posted 06-25-2008 12:50 AM ET (US)
I've seen at least 4 other 15s in SC with 100-115 hps on them in my life and am not aware of any death reports. I'm sure none could touch Micks speed but he can handle the boat. A 15 with a 70 is extremely dangerous if someone is not aware of the characteristics.
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| jmorgan40 |
posted 06-25-2008 07:59 AM ET (US)
Mick, That is a beautiful job on the 15. Great attention to detail! Joe |
| devildog |
posted 06-25-2008 02:42 PM ET (US)
Three words: byoo tee full!!! |
| runpasthefence |
posted 07-11-2008 05:52 PM ET (US)
So, I scored a piston about 1/4 mile from my house after a solid 60 miles traveled on July 4.I hadn't turned more than 4000rpm all day, and I hit some nice water near Bowens Island and decided to let her run a bit. Turns out the Moeller auxiliary tank I used (for the first time) can't provide enough fuel above 5000rpms to adequately fuel and lubricate the engine as I've disabled the oil injection system. Should'a known better... The damage isn't that bad. I knew exactly what was happening as soon as it happened. I dropped down to 30psi on one cylinder. I'll tear her down tomorrow. I think a hone, re-ring, and a new piston will take care of it, but I'm entertaining the idea of having the block bored over a bit and going ahead and throwing a whole new rotating assembly in it. Since I haven't disconnected the rev limiter, I'll probably reconnect the oil injection, so I don't have to worry about this happening again. I want to make the Lanier rendezvous, so it might just be a quick hone. |
| minitauk85 |
posted 07-11-2008 06:10 PM ET (US)
Godspeed, John Glenn! -k |
| dnh |
posted 07-12-2008 12:29 AM ET (US)
Beats me running down Coleman Blvd in my Yukon I've had for 7 years two weeks ago and thinking I ran over some aluminum cans. Result - engine blew 3 cylinders. Done = new car for wife. I inherit her old car. New car for wife cost more than both of my Whalers combined. Something wrong with this world. |
| newportguy |
posted 07-12-2008 10:07 AM ET (US)
Great job on the boat. I did not relaize that the 15 foot hull had a space for a tank. Was this standard on on all hulls? Or was this a modification? Also is the boat stable at 60 plus miles per hour with the addition of the pad and the strakes running al the way back? Would love for you to comment on this. Thanks Larry |
| runpasthefence |
posted 07-14-2008 01:59 AM ET (US)
The 15' never was available with an internal tank. I think this modification was perfect for my application, but if I were building a more mildly custom 15' I would use a fiberglass center console and have an aluminum tank of about 12 gallons made to fit inside it. At 60mph the boat is just getting loose. At 62 she gets pretty squirrelly. However, the boat feels as if she wants to be driven out of the chine walk. In comparison, when I had the boat rigged with the 90hp Yamaha the boat would chine walk uncontrollably at 49-50mph. Now, the boat rides perfectly at 50-55mph. She doesn't walk, and I can even take the turns of our local tidal creeks at this speed if planned properly. I think with some seat time and experience, I'll learn to be able to handle the boat more effectively above 60mph. With another prop, I think she has another 3-5mph so long as I can handle it. It's tough to say what alleviated the chine walking. It could have been as simple as the weight redistribution and centering that occurred with the rig. It could be the elevated engine height coupled with hydraulic steering and solid motor mounts. Or, it could be all of these things along with the hull modifications. I do know the boat requires much less trim input from the motor at speed to adequately set the boat's trim angle. The boat seems to have more natural lift, and might be a little more efficient at speed. |
| pglein |
posted 07-14-2008 02:54 PM ET (US)
Well, at least when you kill yourself, you'll do it in style. That's a very nice looking fiberglass coffin. |
| dnh |
posted 07-14-2008 03:46 PM ET (US)
what kind of comment is that? |
| Bluejay15 |
posted 07-14-2008 05:11 PM ET (US)
Sounds like a worthless comment made by someone with no driving skills to speak of. Some people do know how to drive boats that go over 40. Pglein, you're just not one of them. Pushing the limits is what human beings do. |
| pglein |
posted 07-15-2008 12:33 PM ET (US)
That boat is a death trap. WAY overpowered, no restraints, no padding, an unstable hull form, and a steering console that looks like it was custom made with the intention of impailing the driver. I like to go fast too, but that thing will surely top out well over 70mph when you get it propped right. The slightest mishap at that speed and the driver and occupants will be killed instantly. Pushing the envelope is about calculated risk, not reckless abandon. |
| dnh |
posted 07-15-2008 02:47 PM ET (US)
Why is it your place to post something like that when someone has a boat he has worked on for 3 years and put more time into than probably almost any restoration on this site, and it looks beautiful, and he is proud of it, that you would write something like that? I am sure that Mick has other people such as his family that might be the more appropriate person to tell him what he ought to do and not to do having graduated from college at a military institution and probably shown some degree of discipline in his life. You can die in a 15 with a 60hp on it if you hit a wake and its trimmed up. Just be happy that he shared the photos with you or go outside and look around and smile. |
| pglein |
posted 07-15-2008 02:48 PM ET (US)
I didn't tell him not to do it. Just that it looked way too dangerous for me. |
| jeffs22outrage |
posted 07-15-2008 05:29 PM ET (US)
A loaded weapon in the hands of an idiot nothing short of disastrous. The same weapon in the hands of a true marksman is full of restraint and accuracy. Keep on running Mick. |
| HAPPYJIM |
posted 07-15-2008 07:30 PM ET (US)
Very impressive machine. You should be very proud of her. |
| zotcha |
posted 07-15-2008 10:09 PM ET (US)
Whatever... Mick, bring that thing down here, better yet, I'll come up there and steer, you run the throttle, or vice versa. I've got the helmet and Lifeline jacket. Let's go! Give me a call. Hope you make it to the RI rendevous, and I have not given up on the Lake Lanier gig either. Give me a break. zotcha. |
| CyberDish |
posted 07-15-2008 10:26 PM ET (US)
First of all.. I hope my spelling is OK... The "drool" on my keyboard may have an effect on my spelling.. hehe I have a question about the woodwork in the album titled "dads 15" What type of wood in the seats? The strips of different color? Very interesting! |
| 15ft90hp |
posted 07-16-2008 01:08 AM ET (US)
VERYCOOL! Did you rebuild your transom? It looks like all three drain tubes are custom. Your fuel tank is on, how many gallons is it? I'm in the process of installing a 18gal Tempo and been thinking about the slosh effect side to side, did you feel that sloshing before your new tank? Matt |
| tombro |
posted 07-16-2008 07:37 AM ET (US)
Wow...where's my drool bucket??? Nice work! |
| Sebash4 |
posted 07-16-2008 11:31 AM ET (US)
FANTASTIC !!! I hope I can do half that good a job on restoring my 13.... |
| runpasthefence |
posted 08-18-2008 01:06 AM ET (US)
Set a new top speed! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ garmin.jpg What should be there is 64.xx mph. Despite the weather I went for a short high speed cruise around the Folly area. Just before reaching one of the Twin Sister creeks in Lighthouse Creek, I was running wide open and glanced down to see my GPS jump from 63.8x to 64.2x. This is up a couple of mph from 62mph. I'm still on the rev limiter and in need of a taller prop, but I was running a little lighter load and was running the motor a little higher. I rebuilt the engine about three weeks ago and have used the boat each of the past three weekends. The first was a 100 mile run from my house to Rockville and back. The second was a run from my house to the locks in the Cooper River and back. Then, this weekend I made a 60+ mile run into the Ashley river. Thats about 270 miles in three weekends. Here are some pictures taken last weekend. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ Complete/summer2013.jpg |
| zotcha |
posted 08-18-2008 08:40 AM ET (US)
MAN!!! You've got that thing JACKED! Nice numbers too. zot. |
| jmorgan40 |
posted 08-18-2008 10:07 AM ET (US)
Mick, We were all lookng forward to seing you at the Lake Lanier gathering. Wish you could of made the trip. Great looking boat. Joe |
| erik selis |
posted 08-18-2008 10:35 AM ET (US)
Wow, that's all I can say. That is one heck of a project. Beautiful job and also daring. Maybe I missed it but did you strengthen the hull with the board underneath to compensate for making such a large cutout in the deck for the fuel tank? Erik |
| scwunc |
posted 08-18-2008 08:37 PM ET (US)
WOW. Very nice work. I'm about 50 hours into my 15 project with about 30 to go and can't imagine the hours you've put in. Have the fuzz given you any grief about that 130 yet? |
| runpasthefence |
posted 08-18-2008 11:26 PM ET (US)
As much as I've changed with this boat, I never considered including a pillow, handles, and a wooden hinged cap. However, I do need to write a will...maybe that'll be included in my burial requests. - Come on man, you sound worse than my mother. where2 - Thanks for the offer, I'll definitely keep you in mind next time I head south. Maybe I can get a chance to make those pair of 15's of yours jealous. CyberDish - It might be Holly. I'm really not sure. I still have the seat, if you have any interest in it. 15ft90hp - I did not rebuild the transom. The thru-hulls are simple new brass. With the 90 Yamaha I had a 12 gallon pate mounted flush against the port side, so sloshing wasn't an issue. I wouldn't be too concerned with sloshing with your setup. I don't think I've ever seen pictures of your 15', I'd like to if you have any. Zot - We need to hook up sometime and run the 15's. I had the motor jacked up that high because I was idling in less than 2' of water on the inside of a sandbar at Morris Island. I typically run her raised between 4-5". Pictured is 6" up. erik - The fuel cavity was substantially re-glassed, we felt not supports were needed. scwunc - I was pulled once by the SCDNR, I think mainly because the officer recognized me. It was July 4 and it was a simple safety check. He was in a 15' Alert, and we did more talking about the boats than anything. I actually just finished custom rigging a newly painted 15' for another SCDNR officer. Short answer - no probs. |
| fabricator |
posted 08-19-2008 12:45 PM ET (US)
WOW. Fantastic work! I better not let my boys see this thread, they'll be selling our 13 to make me build one like this! |
| Contender25 |
posted 08-19-2008 03:47 PM ET (US)
Your boat looks great. I have one of the black caps that covers the bolt for the spinner knob on your wheel if you would like it shoot me you address via email and you can have it. |
| zotcha |
posted 08-19-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)
Man, are you always on the ready...standby for an email...Vezo, Part II. |
| runpasthefence |
posted 07-01-2009 11:29 PM ET (US)
Woo hoo! Used the boat for the first time since Winter 08 today! My old lower unit developed a crack in the housing and started leaking oil. Also, the seams in my console started to pull apart. Something funny happened today. The guy who did all of the cushions on my boat told me his neighbor (I know...he said that he said...) told him that he had seen "the baddest Whaler he'd ever seen" in a boating magazine. He then said his neighbor described my boat perfectly. So, I'm wondering...has anyone seen my boat published in any local or national boating magazines? I washed my camera in my shorts while working on another project...pictured later, but I'll include some pictures from the boat's last use in December. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ IMG_2382.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ IMG_2397.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/yeahtoast02/project%20Ambelina/ IMG_2399.jpg |
| mateobosch |
posted 07-02-2009 12:40 AM ET (US)
Nice Job! |
| dnh |
posted 07-02-2009 03:16 AM ET (US)
I personally saw Mick today just before his trip at the shop where the secret weapon 15 was stored. He was quite excited. The boat looks great in person. I've seen him flying around on (or seemingly above) the water in the boat before. Mick put a lot of time into the boat which is as high end looking finish wise as any Hinckley I've seen. The fact that he put equal time into the performance side of it is neat as well. An interesting side note is that Mick works in a boatyard but does not wear shoes. Post some more photos Mick. |
| R T M |
posted 07-02-2009 09:11 AM ET (US)
Mick. Join the Classic Raceboat Assoc. and bring your 15 footer and run it at the ROAR AND SOAR event in early November near Orlando. Its a great event with airplanes, race boats and race cars all running. I`ll be there with my F-Runabout, and I expect Zot will bring his Speed Skiff. You will need a racing life jacket with leg straps and a helmet. http://www.fantasyofflight.com/roar-n-soar/ http://www.classicraceboatassoc.com/ rich/Binkie |
| Jessielove |
posted 07-02-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)
I appreciate your effort and generally like the result a lot, however one small criticism if I might - your cushions are not up to par with the rest of the boat. I think they detract from what you have done quite a bit. The material fits the padding poorly and, to me, the color does not compliment the scheme you chose for the rest of the boat. Material in a deeper shade of blue with piping to match your interior would be my recommendation. Also, I would reconsider the shape of your backrest; it doesn’t thematically replicate anything else you have done in the boat. Maybe a shape that takes cues from the shape of your console would tie it all together? |
| dnh |
posted 07-02-2009 10:43 PM ET (US)
If you don't have something nice to say . . . |
| R T M |
posted 07-02-2009 11:02 PM ET (US)
Most folks appreciate constructive criticism, women on the other hand..... rich/Binkie |
| Jessielove |
posted 07-03-2009 08:47 PM ET (US)
I did have something nice to say; I said I like it a lot. Unlike most folks who complain for the sake of doing so, I said why I didn't like one particular aspect of his boat, and I offered some specific suggestions that the owner might wish to consider. I think that is being very fair and constructive. That is why it's called constructive criticism as opposed to (destructive) criticism. |
| dnh |
posted 07-03-2009 10:20 PM ET (US)
Rich / Bunkie / 500 user names Thanks. One of you spend as much time as Mick to make a boat look one half that good much less perform half that well then offer constructive / old grumpy man criticism. Peace. |
| runpasthefence |
posted 07-03-2009 11:36 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys for the comments and criticism. Nathan, your buddy was stoked out of his mind today picking up his boat. I hope your greater boating experience proves to be the deciding factor when you guys run head to head! Rich, thanks for that link. That definitely looks like something I could get into. I've seen Zot a few times over the past 6 months or so. I'm wanting a ride in that JSS so bad it hurts! I'll look into trying to make that event, but I've got a feeling I won't be on this coast in November... Jessielove, no offense taken. I totally agree. Here's the story. We had an upholsterer renting space out of the shop I work in. I did some work on the guy's 40ish' Tiara in exchange for the canvas seen here in how the boat was originally rigged... Beggars can't be choosers...I suppose. Trying to save a little coin, I reused the old cushions. The back rest is handy as it easily detaches, folds, and stows in the seat it's attached to. The bow cushion is really handy in other situations... |
| R T M |
posted 07-03-2009 11:56 PM ET (US)
Mick, can you bring that boat down to Florida to the town of Suwanee, and run it at the AOMCI(Antique Outboard) meet, on the 17-18 of this month. Its a two day meet on the Suwanee River. I know they would like to see it. At Last months meet in Mt. Dora a guy that lived on the lake showed up with his Jersey Speed Skiff. I got to talking to him, and he gave me a ride, and let me drive it too. Wouldn`t let me go over 65 though because we weren`t wearing life jackets. What a great ride. His was a wooden one from `55 mahogany deck too. Now I want to sell everything and get one, or else build a cracker box. rich/Binkie |
| TC |
posted 07-04-2009 09:58 AM ET (US)
What an incredible project, this is the first time I've seen it. What a beautiful color scheme and amazing custom work. Years ago, I had a 15 foot Viper with a 200. At first, I couldn't drive it at 60, but with seat time and a better prop,, I learned to drive through the chine walk up to 80 or better. I'm sure you figured it out already. What prop, speed and RPM are you now turning? I'm working on the final stages of rigging my new to me 250EFI Mercury on my 18 foot guardian and will hpoefully run it today. It should be fun. Happy Birthday America! |
| TampaTom |
posted 07-05-2009 02:01 AM ET (US)
That is really cool! My kid's are going to freak when they see your boat. Here's a mod we temporally put on our 15' a couple of summers ago. Thankfully, the novelty wore off after a couple of weeks. [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v290/TampaTom/?action=view¤t=MVI_2790.flv][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/TampaTom/th_MVI_2790.jpg[/IMG][/URL] |
| TampaTom |
posted 07-05-2009 02:04 AM ET (US)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v290/TampaTom/?action=view¤t=MVI_2790.flv |
| pcrussell50 |
posted 03-22-2011 03:35 PM ET (US)
quote: Sadly, even if JoeBob metalflake bass boat adheres to the horsepower limits imposed by he top-flight pro tournaments, he will still be good for 70+ mph. Many non-professional bass boaters do NOT adhere to the horsepower limitations that the pro's must live under. 80's are not unheard of for those guys. 90's, if the he boat is an Allison, and some of the really speed junkies have gone over 100. -Peter |
| contender |
posted 03-22-2011 05:01 PM ET (US)
Run, Your boat looks great, just like you said just needs a couple of finishing touches, great job. How is the transom holding up with all the extra weight and HP? I have a 17 I redid last Jan, use the same color on the inside for the same reason, Painted the outside in Fighting Lady Yellow. trimmed it out with a black rub rail with a red insert and a black Bimini top. Built my own console out of fiberglass, I put a fresh water shower under the console with the fuel tank and battery. I'm running an old 140 Looper Evinrude. good luck nice boat |
| Jeff |
posted 03-22-2011 05:29 PM ET (US)
Guys this thread is a bit old (almost 3 years). If I remember right, Mick has changed the motor set up a couple times since this post. |
| Binkster |
posted 03-22-2011 08:28 PM ET (US)
I started a thread trying to find some performance info on Mick`s (runpasthefence`s) 15` Whaler. We have`nt heard from him in quite a while. There were alot of threads back in `07 and `08 pertaining to this good looking Whaler with the radical padded bottom, but I never remember reading anything about performance with the 130 Yamaha. Anyone know anything. Apparently jimh morphed my thread into a resurrection of this old thread. Oh well. |
| dnh |
posted 03-22-2011 08:33 PM ET (US)
I know Mick. Last I heard he had a 225 on the boat. I will get an update. I dont think he follows this board anymore. |
| Binkster |
posted 03-22-2011 09:24 PM ET (US)
thanks dnh, I knew he was a student at the Citadel. I thought he may have graduated and joined the military. Would like to see some current pics with the 225. Must be the worlds fastest Whaler. |
| pcrussell50 |
posted 03-22-2011 10:36 PM ET (US)
Some people DO put Merc 2.5L Promax 225's on Hydrostream Vipers, which Mick mentioned was one of his inspirations for his 15' classic. The Viper is a light, 15 footer with a pad. It's rated for 120hp. IIRC, a Viper with that a 225 Promax is a candidate for blowover, as it will _easily_ exceed 80mph. Much above that, and they say blowover can and or will happen. The Viper has a wide blunt nose like classic Whaler's too. -Peter |
| contender |
posted 03-22-2011 10:46 PM ET (US)
If the whaler reaches those speeds (70 plus with the 225) the hull will definitely blow over. The front of the hull just catches to much air, and will just need a small wave to put it airborne... He needs a kill switch, vest and helmet |
| Binkster |
posted 03-23-2011 09:09 PM ET (US)
The picture of the boat shows it has a standard shifter and throttle mounted on the center console, and no kill switch is visible. Pretty dangerous setup. Should have a foot throttle. If you are going to run at racing speeds, at least try to make it as safe as a race boat. At those speeds blowing the hull over or stuffing it into a wave or getting tossed out is probably not survivable without a helmet and racing life jacket. |
| dnh |
posted 03-23-2011 09:31 PM ET (US)
He does have a foot throttle. |
| TC |
posted 03-31-2011 01:46 PM ET (US)
My Viper had a worn out Johnson 200 crossflow that hit 80. The previous owner had it running 96 with a worked over 2 liter mercury. You need the windshield on it at these speeds for downforce. |
| pcrussell50 |
posted 03-31-2011 02:14 PM ET (US)
Mine just has a "bubbleback", v4 crossflow, so it's about 115prop/135crank hp. I'm hoping for low 60's, but I've only had her to the lake once since I got her last August, and it was waaay too rough that day to go fast. We'll see how it goes when I get a smooth day at the lake. Sadly, we live far from the lake, so getting there is a bit of a commitment and a production. -Peter |
| littlehandegan |
posted 03-31-2011 09:38 PM ET (US)
I have a report this boat is now running a 200. And that the owner is over sea's fighting for our country! |
| runpasthefence |
posted 05-04-2011 05:12 AM ET (US)
Hey there gents! I was doing some searching and came across this thread. It's true, I don't frequent this site much anymore. I've been quite busy during the past year. I had been deployed to Afghanistan, but don't confuse me with our Marines, soldiers, airmen, and all other pertinent nomenclature describing people doing much more difficult work than I was. Also, when I get home I've got a couple of other projects that'll be taking up some time. I've got a 1950 AD Chevrolet pick up due for a frame swap with a blown LS powerplant. I guess I have a habit of making old slow things fast and impractical. So, the boat...Yes, she now is powered by a 2.6l Yamaha that I'm estimating puts out around 220 horsepressure. I came across a discarded powerhead just weeks before I was deployed. I put the engine back together the week before shipping off, so I was only able to take her out a couple of times. Top speed isn't a good measurement of how fun this boat is to run. Running a boat this small and light in trafficked waters at top speed is not wise. I only run at top speed during hours/seasons of low population with very good visibility. Frankly, hitting wakes of boats 18' and above at 50mph+ isn't much fun. The main downside of the boat is its impracticality. It's not the quietest or most comfortable boat. I think its great to cruise in when the seas are calm. Cruise speed is high, and fuel consumption is great. I can cover a lot of ground in a day. However, I like to entertain on the water, and this boat is only really suitable for two people. It can transport four people to and from local areas, but it isn't much fun once I reach the Charleston harbor. I used to borrow my father's 18' Outrage, but he's since downsized to a 15' Striper and repowered with a new Yamaha F70. So, the only answer is to add another boat to the family. A 19' LowPro may be in my near future. I might even use the old V4 to power it. V4 on the 19', V6 on the 15'...something isn't right here... Binks, the boat would dance between 62-64mph with the V4. Keep in mind this is a very heavy 15' built with quite heavy components. It'd be fun to do this build again but set the boat up with minimal components: small aerodynamic fiberglass console, 6 gallon tank, light battery, manual jack plate, small single seat mounted low to the floor, and let her eat. Killswitch. Check. I just left Bangladesh and am currently riding my way through India on a Royal Enfield. I'll come around here more often to say what's up and give updates once I'm back on the water. Sites like this are a bit of a tease when you're landlocked. I'll also have to check on the rendezvous section to see if there's anything going on in the Lowcountry. Cheers |
| dscew |
posted 05-04-2011 07:33 AM ET (US)
Is that Royal Enfield one of the vintage motorcycles from the 40s or 50s, or is it one of the ones currently built in India? Not that there is much difference. I had heard that India has the original machinery from England for building them. |
| Jeff |
posted 05-04-2011 07:40 AM ET (US)
Mick, Thanks for the update and good to hear from you! Enjoy you adventure across India. |
| zotcha |
posted 05-04-2011 11:15 AM ET (US)
Hey Mick, how are ya? Seen the BA Tornado damage just 6 hours west of us? Trying to get PITA, my Golden, over to do some therapy work for a small town pretty devastated. Other than that, Low Country experiencing last of the 70* days today or tomorrow, and then...Well You Know! Two trips to Charleston Harley for a buddy to pick up his first Harley. And a couple of cold ones at Reds! 1982 Sport still stylin'. 1988 conversion hasn't changed much since we saw each other last. Be Safe my friend. All is well here in South Cackalacki. Oh and the JS-04 still ready. zotcha. |
| pcrussell50 |
posted 05-04-2011 04:36 PM ET (US)
quote: As in a Sidewinder LowPro? I have 16' clone of of one of those. or, failing the embed: [URLL]https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7pbVGyeZ-usykzCO-AA8eg?feat=directlink[/URL] It's amazingly roomy. The bench seat will seat 3 adults across quite comfortably, as long as they are in the under 200lb, class, making for seating for 6, total. It's the most space-efficient closed bow 16' I've ever seen. And it'll do 55mph with just me, and her rough, hooked bottom, full of crude patches and repairs, with a stock '75 "bubbleback" v4. -Peter |
| Binkster |
posted 05-06-2011 05:51 AM ET (US)
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ 7pbVGyeZ-usykzCO-AA8eg?feat=directlink |
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