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Landlocked posted 06-03-2009 02:13 PM ET (US)
Just returned from 10 days on the Florida Panhandle with the Montauk. While there we've realized that the growing family has about maxed out available space in the Montauk and that we are becoming more and more comfortable going out the pass and playings around in the gulf. We'd like something bigger but still versatile enough to use on lakes and rivers here. It also has to be small enough to comfortably tow with the Tahoe.
Went by a whaler dealer down there and was offered 35k difference on the 190 trading in my 77 Montauk with 02 Mercury. Not completely un-doable for us and I'm sure I can counter for a slightly better deal but I'm just not sure I'd be happy. I love my teak and I love the character of the older boats. I also hate throwing away money.
Would love to hear thoughts of those familiar with towing and operating both boats. The 190 is a good looking boat but there is just something missing for me. Excellent financing terms are a definate plus though.
Ll.
littleblue posted 06-03-2009 04:51 PM ET (US)
For 35K you could get a very nice classic Outrage restored w/ new power and fuel tank, etc. and still have money left over to outfit w/ electronics or to put in the bank.
I've never ridden in a 190 Montauk but they seem nice and roomy. If we were talking 190 Outrage I'd pause to think for a second, however, I'd probably still wind up choosing the classic. Just has more personality.
Sorry couldn't help w/ real world comparison.
Peter posted 06-03-2009 06:15 PM ET (US)
That is a no brainer - Outrage 18. They'll both perform similarly but the Outrage 18 has the good looks that the 190 Outrage is just plain missing.
I tow mine with a Tahoe (3.73 rear axle), no problem at all.
boatdryver posted 06-03-2009 06:32 PM ET (US)
how soon do you need the bigger boat?
Reason I ask is that is CAN take a long time to find a really nice Classic Outrage 18 and then repower same.
just a thought...
JimL
Dan posted 06-03-2009 08:36 PM ET (US)
The 19 Montauk is significantly larger than the classic 18 Outrage. I have an 18, and there is a new 19 Montauk in a slip near me. I agree that the new boats have less personality. Maybe you could consider a classic 20, 21, or 22.
Also the 19 Montauk with the 115 motor looks very underpowered.
CLK posted 06-03-2009 09:25 PM ET (US)

I like the layout & simplicity of Montauks.
One thing that surprises me about the 190 Montauk is,... it's Reverse Pilot Seat is the same size as those used on the 150 & 170 Montauks - No bigger.
Perhaps BW is trying to economize production costs. However, with the extra room on the 190, I would've liked it accompanied with a wider RPS.

Cheers!
~CLK

wezie posted 06-03-2009 09:34 PM ET (US)
Having been in neither, I will compare the Montauk 17 and 170. The older boat planes easier with less bow rise. That is really pleasant to me.
If the 190 has the same bow rise as the 170, I might go with the 18 redone by you or someone else.
I will say that I am keeping the 170. It is larger than the 17 and newer.
If I have to, it will have trim tabs, but not now.
Good Luck in all your perusing.
highanddry posted 06-03-2009 10:02 PM ET (US)
Outrage 190, better looking, better performance, larger than the so called little classic. Much better boat, better ride, more capacity, no silly wood grain smathered all over like an old Buick. Sorry but could not help the "real world comparison."
Ritzyrags posted 06-03-2009 10:14 PM ET (US)
LI;
It really all comes down to the kind of budget you will be making available for your newest Whaler.
With a firm number;
You can then decide if you want to go with a "New";
Or just possibly something used but just as exciting.
Something in this model get's my heart racing..
http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43bf12.jpg
Sweet and roomy;But a bit pricey fuel wise..
Here is one that was so very well priced;
But so very far away.
Nice, spacious and reasonable.
Had to let it get away..
http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ricks21024.jpg
There is plenty of great deals to be had into the used Whaler sections lately.
These were for sale and did sell.
I have posted these as examples of some of the used whalers available and sold in the last few weeks.
Ritzyrags posted 06-03-2009 10:17 PM ET (US)
One more time.
http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ricks21024.jpg
mtwilling posted 06-03-2009 10:27 PM ET (US)
YOu mentioned $35k for the trade. I was in Treasure Island Marina in Panama City two weeks ago and they had a new 19 outrage at $32k and a 19 Montauk (with 135 Verado) for $35k. Each was well equipped and had trailers and biminis. With your trade you may get a good deal.
Landlocked posted 06-04-2009 09:36 AM ET (US)
Interesting...
It was a Treasure Island dealership I stopped in. Salesman was very knowledgable and and I felt comfortable he was shooting straight. He said the 190 listed at 46K. He came off of that price to 41K and offered me 6K for the Montauk making the final price 35K. It would seem he has more room to dicker than he led me to believe...
I certainly don't need to be spending that much money on a boat with 3 kids. I could do it but it would require extended financing. My preference would be an 18 or 19 with a Yamaha 4 stroke, t-top, teak and less than 10K difference. Maybe I'm dreaming but I'm going to sit back and watch a while and see what I can find. Not in a huge hurry - This winter may be the best time to buy anyway. I could pay cash at that point and then turn around and sell my boat when the right buyer came along.
I appreciate the replies.
Ll.
White Bear posted 06-04-2009 10:49 AM ET (US)
Look for a 20' Outrage rather than an 18' - more beam for stability and interior room with only slightly more length for trailering.
Tohsgib posted 06-04-2009 11:25 AM ET (US)
Your 17 is probably worth about $8k if in good shape with newer power. You can buy/steal a nice 18/20 outrage with newer power for mid-upper teens so say $10k out of your pocket after you sell the Montauk. You could also buy a nice 19/21 Banana hull and repower yourself for mid teens. I upgraded from my Newtauk to the 19' Revenge and it is night and day and the storage is what i really wanted. Plus when I get stuck in one of our daily rain storms I have cover unlike a center console. My Jeep Liberty tows it fine. Your Tahoe would laugh at it. Bananas and 18's are only about 800lbs more than a Montauk.
Landlocked posted 06-04-2009 11:39 AM ET (US)
I experienced a few of your downpours last week. Wish you could send some of it up our way!
Montauk is in great shape. Wood all fresh with epiphanes for teak. New wiring/guages. Set up for stern mount trolling motor with plug on starboard side. 02 Merc 90 2 stroke - definately less than 200 hours though I don't have a guage. 2005 or 06 Loadmaster aluminum trailer. Only negative is bottom paint that I've been slowly let wear off for the last 10 years.
Just need to find the right boat to trade up to. I think ya'll have convinced me. I want to stay smaller than the 22 though, The 1972 I had was a beast to tow. (Or maybe I'm just a wuss.)
Thanks.
Ll.
SJUAE posted 06-04-2009 01:58 PM ET (US)
My take is, with three kids and a wife you will not be steaming in to any real rough stuff so Outrage is not essential.
The 190M will be more economical to run and plenty of room at the bow.
Although there is appreciation for classics/wood etc there is similarly for something that is new.
The 190 will be lower maintenance and low risk with 5-7 years warranty and less likely to need money throwing at it.
Your initial purchase on a used may be lower but the delta is likely to decrease over the years especially if you need a new engine and you are getting 10-15% of a new boat
Regards
Steve
Tohsgib posted 06-04-2009 02:23 PM ET (US)
Good points..in 10 years your newly repowered $18k classic will be worth $10k-12K. In 10 years your $35k Montauk 190 will be worth $10k-12K. Don't know about you but this is not my daily commuter that brings home the bread and butter, it's a boat. I personally can't swallow depreciation like that on something that is used on weekends. Then again somebody has to buy them new so we can reap from their misfortunes. I have lost money on one Whaler and that was my first 15' sport that I had to repower the next season....total was about $900 loss. My one and only boat I bought new I lost about $18k in 10 years or so of use...never again unless I hit the Powerball.
Landlocked posted 06-04-2009 03:16 PM ET (US)

On the go used side of the argument...
I bought my Montauk around 10 years ago. Paid 6,200 for her. I repowered for around 5,000. I Bought a trailer for 1600. Total invested not counting refinishing / guages etc. (which were by choice, not necesity) is 12,800. Nick is telling me I could expect around 8K sale so that's only a 34% depreciation over 10 years in a boat that was already 20 years old when I bought her. Given the enjoyment I've had out of her in those 10 years - I'd say I'm coming out way ahead.
On the new side...
I'm looking to buy a boat that most likely will be my last. Something I can take up to 20 miles out snapper fishing,run on the lakes and rivers around here and fit the kids and someday the grandkids in. Since I'm approaching this as a "lifetime" purchase, depreciation isn't a huge concern. And assuming I buy new and it lasts as long as my 1977 has, I can expect to make it into my 70's and still have a boat as good as what I have now asumming I take care of it.
It's really all coming back to what I want and I think I've realized that what I want is the classic Teak look. I actually enjoy maintaning it. Older hulls don't worry me - I've seen how they hold up. Key is new power that will get me at least 10 years of relatively trouble free use.
littleblue posted 06-04-2009 03:54 PM ET (US)

quote:
I'm looking to buy a boat that most likely will be my last.
I've learned that there is no such thing ;)
boatdryver posted 06-04-2009 03:54 PM ET (US)
judging from your description of your Montauk I sure wouldn't trade it in. If at all possible I sure coax you to sell it yourself and pocket 3-5K more than trading it in.
JimL
RJG posted 06-04-2009 05:04 PM ET (US)
I have owned my 1988 Outrage 18 for nine years now. Actually this is the second Outrage 18 I have owned. They are that good.
I have towed both 18 Outrages all over the state of Fla. behind a Chevy Blazer and Chevy Astro van. I tow her locally behind a V6 powered Nissan pickup. I can push the boat and trailer on level ground by my 50 year old, 170lb. self.
We take her fishing for trout and redfish in the marsh, for tarpon and kingfish near the beach and for grouper and snapper as far as 30 miles out in the Atlantic.
I can launch and retrieve her from her trailer by myself in a few seconds.
For me the choice is easy. Find a good 18 Outrage, run the motor 'till it dies and re power with a 150hp of your choice. You will love it.
Landlocked posted 06-04-2009 05:17 PM ET (US)
That's exactly the kind of info I need. Thanks RJG.
Anyone want to trade an 18 for a Montauk? Ooops - guess I need to start a new thread in Marketplace.
Ll.
Peter posted 06-04-2009 05:58 PM ET (US)
Like RJG, I am on my second Outrage 18. They are that good. I always regretted selling my first and a few years ago, just a month or so after I started looking for Outrage 18 No. 2, I got lucky and found a fully loaded all original one in reasonably good condition in the vicinity.
I would follow RJG's advice. Find a good hull and take whatever motor comes with it and then repower the boat with whatever you want at the appropriate time. The boat will outlive that repower.
pglein posted 06-10-2009 03:34 PM ET (US)
Go with the classic. Simply put, it's a classier looking boat that will meet all your needs.
prj posted 06-10-2009 05:04 PM ET (US)
You know the answer to this question.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2039/2194154954_b00668d9ff_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1078/1084821235_83174b13de_b.jpg
Landlocked posted 06-16-2009 11:35 AM ET (US)
Beautiful boat prj. Exactly what I want. Going to start saving/selling off a few toys so I'm ready when one of these comes along. Missed out/got @#$%! on an 11 yesterday. Found it on Craigslist. Finally got the seller to contact me after repeated emails. Looked at it Sat. Told him I'd be back Monday to get the boat - too late to withdraw the cash on Sat and obviously the bank was closed Sunday. He said - it'll be sitting here...
Waited for the bank to open Monday morning got the cash and was in his driveway by 9am. He had sold it out from under me. Moral of the story - be ready to buy when you find something you want and act quick.
Learned my lesson.
Ll.
Tohsgib posted 06-16-2009 12:26 PM ET (US)
Yup...be VERY weary when they won't take a deposit either, no matter how friendly and reassuring they are. Always bring cash or a good deposit.
Tohsgib posted 06-16-2009 12:27 PM ET (US)
LL...I have a sweet 11' sport in FL if interested.
Feejer posted 06-16-2009 12:39 PM ET (US)
What a great looking boat. Have you looked at the Dauntless 180? I was torn between that and the Montauk 190. I felt the Dauntless has more creature comforts and was more family friendly.
Landlocked posted 06-16-2009 03:32 PM ET (US)
I might be interested in a couple months, send me some info on it if you are serious about selling. I'm going to poke around and look for a deal on a 13 for a while as I think it would probably be a better fit for what I want it for but an 11 would work.
This one just kind of materialized and being the leader of the lonely hearts whaler club around here - it seems I feel the need to rescue every whaler that I find out about and give it a good home. Plus, the guy had absolutely no idea what he had and was only asking 1500 bucks for it with an early 90's nissan 18 that looked like it had never been run and a magic tilt trailer.
I bought a squall and put a trolling motor on it for the kids but it's a little unstable for them. the 11 looked like a good step up + we could have easily towed it behind the wife's mini van for quick trips to Florida bay fishing rather than dragging the montauk behind the gas guzzling tahoe. A 13 would be easy to tow too and I could get the whole famdamily in it. The 11 was just big enough for me and one or two kids to fish comfortably.
Hoosier posted 06-16-2009 10:08 PM ET (US)
Given what you've said you're looking for, this looks like it'd be worth the drive
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/017872.html

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Author	Topic: New Montauk 190 vs Older Outrage 18 with New Power
Landlocked	posted 06-03-2009 02:13 PM ET (US) Just returned from 10 days on the Florida Panhandle with the Montauk. While there we've realized that the growing family has about maxed out available space in the Montauk and that we are becoming more and more comfortable going out the pass and playings around in the gulf. We'd like something bigger but still versatile enough to use on lakes and rivers here. It also has to be small enough to comfortably tow with the Tahoe. Went by a whaler dealer down there and was offered 35k difference on the 190 trading in my 77 Montauk with 02 Mercury. Not completely un-doable for us and I'm sure I can counter for a slightly better deal but I'm just not sure I'd be happy. I love my teak and I love the character of the older boats. I also hate throwing away money. Would love to hear thoughts of those familiar with towing and operating both boats. The 190 is a good looking boat but there is just something missing for me. Excellent financing terms are a definate plus though. Ll.
littleblue	posted 06-03-2009 04:51 PM ET (US) For 35K you could get a very nice classic Outrage restored w/ new power and fuel tank, etc. and still have money left over to outfit w/ electronics or to put in the bank. I've never ridden in a 190 Montauk but they seem nice and roomy. If we were talking 190 Outrage I'd pause to think for a second, however, I'd probably still wind up choosing the classic. Just has more personality. Sorry couldn't help w/ real world comparison.
Peter	posted 06-03-2009 06:15 PM ET (US) That is a no brainer - Outrage 18. They'll both perform similarly but the Outrage 18 has the good looks that the 190 Outrage is just plain missing. I tow mine with a Tahoe (3.73 rear axle), no problem at all.
boatdryver	posted 06-03-2009 06:32 PM ET (US) how soon do you need the bigger boat? Reason I ask is that is CAN take a long time to find a really nice Classic Outrage 18 and then repower same. just a thought... JimL
Dan	posted 06-03-2009 08:36 PM ET (US) The 19 Montauk is significantly larger than the classic 18 Outrage. I have an 18, and there is a new 19 Montauk in a slip near me. I agree that the new boats have less personality. Maybe you could consider a classic 20, 21, or 22. Also the 19 Montauk with the 115 motor looks very underpowered.
CLK	posted 06-03-2009 09:25 PM ET (US) I like the layout & simplicity of Montauks. One thing that surprises me about the 190 Montauk is,... it's Reverse Pilot Seat is the same size as those used on the 150 & 170 Montauks - No bigger. Perhaps BW is trying to economize production costs. However, with the extra room on the 190, I would've liked it accompanied with a wider RPS. Cheers! ~CLK
wezie	posted 06-03-2009 09:34 PM ET (US) Having been in neither, I will compare the Montauk 17 and 170. The older boat planes easier with less bow rise. That is really pleasant to me. If the 190 has the same bow rise as the 170, I might go with the 18 redone by you or someone else. I will say that I am keeping the 170. It is larger than the 17 and newer. If I have to, it will have trim tabs, but not now. Good Luck in all your perusing.
highanddry	posted 06-03-2009 10:02 PM ET (US) Outrage 190, better looking, better performance, larger than the so called little classic. Much better boat, better ride, more capacity, no silly wood grain smathered all over like an old Buick. Sorry but could not help the "real world comparison."
Ritzyrags	posted 06-03-2009 10:14 PM ET (US) LI; It really all comes down to the kind of budget you will be making available for your newest Whaler. With a firm number; You can then decide if you want to go with a "New"; Or just possibly something used but just as exciting. Something in this model get's my heart racing.. http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43bf12.jpg Sweet and roomy;But a bit pricey fuel wise.. Here is one that was so very well priced; But so very far away. Nice, spacious and reasonable. Had to let it get away.. http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ricks21024.jpg There is plenty of great deals to be had into the used Whaler sections lately. These were for sale and did sell. I have posted these as examples of some of the used whalers available and sold in the last few weeks.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-03-2009 10:17 PM ET (US) One more time. http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ricks21024.jpg
mtwilling	posted 06-03-2009 10:27 PM ET (US) YOu mentioned $35k for the trade. I was in Treasure Island Marina in Panama City two weeks ago and they had a new 19 outrage at $32k and a 19 Montauk (with 135 Verado) for $35k. Each was well equipped and had trailers and biminis. With your trade you may get a good deal.
Landlocked	posted 06-04-2009 09:36 AM ET (US) Interesting... It was a Treasure Island dealership I stopped in. Salesman was very knowledgable and and I felt comfortable he was shooting straight. He said the 190 listed at 46K. He came off of that price to 41K and offered me 6K for the Montauk making the final price 35K. It would seem he has more room to dicker than he led me to believe... I certainly don't need to be spending that much money on a boat with 3 kids. I could do it but it would require extended financing. My preference would be an 18 or 19 with a Yamaha 4 stroke, t-top, teak and less than 10K difference. Maybe I'm dreaming but I'm going to sit back and watch a while and see what I can find. Not in a huge hurry - This winter may be the best time to buy anyway. I could pay cash at that point and then turn around and sell my boat when the right buyer came along. I appreciate the replies. Ll.
White Bear	posted 06-04-2009 10:49 AM ET (US) Look for a 20' Outrage rather than an 18' - more beam for stability and interior room with only slightly more length for trailering.
Tohsgib	posted 06-04-2009 11:25 AM ET (US) Your 17 is probably worth about $8k if in good shape with newer power. You can buy/steal a nice 18/20 outrage with newer power for mid-upper teens so say $10k out of your pocket after you sell the Montauk. You could also buy a nice 19/21 Banana hull and repower yourself for mid teens. I upgraded from my Newtauk to the 19' Revenge and it is night and day and the storage is what i really wanted. Plus when I get stuck in one of our daily rain storms I have cover unlike a center console. My Jeep Liberty tows it fine. Your Tahoe would laugh at it. Bananas and 18's are only about 800lbs more than a Montauk.
Landlocked	posted 06-04-2009 11:39 AM ET (US) I experienced a few of your downpours last week. Wish you could send some of it up our way! Montauk is in great shape. Wood all fresh with epiphanes for teak. New wiring/guages. Set up for stern mount trolling motor with plug on starboard side. 02 Merc 90 2 stroke - definately less than 200 hours though I don't have a guage. 2005 or 06 Loadmaster aluminum trailer. Only negative is bottom paint that I've been slowly let wear off for the last 10 years. Just need to find the right boat to trade up to. I think ya'll have convinced me. I want to stay smaller than the 22 though, The 1972 I had was a beast to tow. (Or maybe I'm just a wuss.) Thanks. Ll.
SJUAE	posted 06-04-2009 01:58 PM ET (US) My take is, with three kids and a wife you will not be steaming in to any real rough stuff so Outrage is not essential. The 190M will be more economical to run and plenty of room at the bow. Although there is appreciation for classics/wood etc there is similarly for something that is new. The 190 will be lower maintenance and low risk with 5-7 years warranty and less likely to need money throwing at it. Your initial purchase on a used may be lower but the delta is likely to decrease over the years especially if you need a new engine and you are getting 10-15% of a new boat Regards Steve
Tohsgib	posted 06-04-2009 02:23 PM ET (US) Good points..in 10 years your newly repowered $18k classic will be worth $10k-12K. In 10 years your $35k Montauk 190 will be worth $10k-12K. Don't know about you but this is not my daily commuter that brings home the bread and butter, it's a boat. I personally can't swallow depreciation like that on something that is used on weekends. Then again somebody has to buy them new so we can reap from their misfortunes. I have lost money on one Whaler and that was my first 15' sport that I had to repower the next season....total was about $900 loss. My one and only boat I bought new I lost about $18k in 10 years or so of use...never again unless I hit the Powerball.
Landlocked	posted 06-04-2009 03:16 PM ET (US) On the go used side of the argument... I bought my Montauk around 10 years ago. Paid 6,200 for her. I repowered for around 5,000. I Bought a trailer for 1600. Total invested not counting refinishing / guages etc. (which were by choice, not necesity) is 12,800. Nick is telling me I could expect around 8K sale so that's only a 34% depreciation over 10 years in a boat that was already 20 years old when I bought her. Given the enjoyment I've had out of her in those 10 years - I'd say I'm coming out way ahead. On the new side... I'm looking to buy a boat that most likely will be my last. Something I can take up to 20 miles out snapper fishing,run on the lakes and rivers around here and fit the kids and someday the grandkids in. Since I'm approaching this as a "lifetime" purchase, depreciation isn't a huge concern. And assuming I buy new and it lasts as long as my 1977 has, I can expect to make it into my 70's and still have a boat as good as what I have now asumming I take care of it. It's really all coming back to what I want and I think I've realized that what I want is the classic Teak look. I actually enjoy maintaning it. Older hulls don't worry me - I've seen how they hold up. Key is new power that will get me at least 10 years of relatively trouble free use.
littleblue	posted 06-04-2009 03:54 PM ET (US) quote: I'm looking to buy a boat that most likely will be my last. I've learned that there is no such thing ;)
boatdryver	posted 06-04-2009 03:54 PM ET (US) judging from your description of your Montauk I sure wouldn't trade it in. If at all possible I sure coax you to sell it yourself and pocket 3-5K more than trading it in. JimL
RJG	posted 06-04-2009 05:04 PM ET (US) I have owned my 1988 Outrage 18 for nine years now. Actually this is the second Outrage 18 I have owned. They are that good. I have towed both 18 Outrages all over the state of Fla. behind a Chevy Blazer and Chevy Astro van. I tow her locally behind a V6 powered Nissan pickup. I can push the boat and trailer on level ground by my 50 year old, 170lb. self. We take her fishing for trout and redfish in the marsh, for tarpon and kingfish near the beach and for grouper and snapper as far as 30 miles out in the Atlantic. I can launch and retrieve her from her trailer by myself in a few seconds. For me the choice is easy. Find a good 18 Outrage, run the motor 'till it dies and re power with a 150hp of your choice. You will love it.
Landlocked	posted 06-04-2009 05:17 PM ET (US) That's exactly the kind of info I need. Thanks RJG. Anyone want to trade an 18 for a Montauk? Ooops - guess I need to start a new thread in Marketplace. Ll.
Peter	posted 06-04-2009 05:58 PM ET (US) Like RJG, I am on my second Outrage 18. They are that good. I always regretted selling my first and a few years ago, just a month or so after I started looking for Outrage 18 No. 2, I got lucky and found a fully loaded all original one in reasonably good condition in the vicinity. I would follow RJG's advice. Find a good hull and take whatever motor comes with it and then repower the boat with whatever you want at the appropriate time. The boat will outlive that repower.
pglein	posted 06-10-2009 03:34 PM ET (US) Go with the classic. Simply put, it's a classier looking boat that will meet all your needs.
prj	posted 06-10-2009 05:04 PM ET (US) You know the answer to this question. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2039/2194154954_b00668d9ff_b.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1078/1084821235_83174b13de_b.jpg
Landlocked	posted 06-16-2009 11:35 AM ET (US) Beautiful boat prj. Exactly what I want. Going to start saving/selling off a few toys so I'm ready when one of these comes along. Missed out/got @#$%! on an 11 yesterday. Found it on Craigslist. Finally got the seller to contact me after repeated emails. Looked at it Sat. Told him I'd be back Monday to get the boat - too late to withdraw the cash on Sat and obviously the bank was closed Sunday. He said - it'll be sitting here... Waited for the bank to open Monday morning got the cash and was in his driveway by 9am. He had sold it out from under me. Moral of the story - be ready to buy when you find something you want and act quick. Learned my lesson. Ll.
Tohsgib	posted 06-16-2009 12:26 PM ET (US) Yup...be VERY weary when they won't take a deposit either, no matter how friendly and reassuring they are. Always bring cash or a good deposit.
Tohsgib	posted 06-16-2009 12:27 PM ET (US) LL...I have a sweet 11' sport in FL if interested.
Feejer	posted 06-16-2009 12:39 PM ET (US) What a great looking boat. Have you looked at the Dauntless 180? I was torn between that and the Montauk 190. I felt the Dauntless has more creature comforts and was more family friendly.
Landlocked	posted 06-16-2009 03:32 PM ET (US) I might be interested in a couple months, send me some info on it if you are serious about selling. I'm going to poke around and look for a deal on a 13 for a while as I think it would probably be a better fit for what I want it for but an 11 would work. This one just kind of materialized and being the leader of the lonely hearts whaler club around here - it seems I feel the need to rescue every whaler that I find out about and give it a good home. Plus, the guy had absolutely no idea what he had and was only asking 1500 bucks for it with an early 90's nissan 18 that looked like it had never been run and a magic tilt trailer. I bought a squall and put a trolling motor on it for the kids but it's a little unstable for them. the 11 looked like a good step up + we could have easily towed it behind the wife's mini van for quick trips to Florida bay fishing rather than dragging the montauk behind the gas guzzling tahoe. A 13 would be easy to tow too and I could get the whole famdamily in it. The 11 was just big enough for me and one or two kids to fish comfortably.
Hoosier	posted 06-16-2009 10:08 PM ET (US) Given what you've said you're looking for, this looks like it'd be worth the drive http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/017872.html