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SMLWhaler posted 02-04-2004 09:17 AM ET (US)
Has Ipe been used as a replacement wood on the interior of a Boston Whaler?
hauptjm posted 02-04-2004 02:27 PM ET (US)
Try here first, then try a search, you may find more.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005701.html
jimh posted 02-04-2004 07:57 PM ET (US)
[Administrative post]
HAPPYJIM posted 02-05-2004 05:03 PM ET (US)
I'm not sure where to post this question. The other topic didn't have much except where Guts had used IPE for cooler cleats.
Has anyone used IPE for seats and if so, how is it holding up?
I have a friend that is a distributor for IPE in NE North Carolina and can buy it at a reasonable price.
I would like to replace all the wood in a 13 Sport that is rotted and painted white.
I know it is heavier and will add probably #50 to the boat.
knothead posted 02-06-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)

Here at work, we have several salesmen who sell IPE by the truckload. In most cases it is used for outdoor decks in lieu of treated pine or synthetic boards (Trex,etc.).IPE weathers to a gray-brown color and is naturally very rot resistant. One precaution to remember is that the ends of the boards need to be sealed with a product like Anchor Seal to prevent cracking and checking over time. Also, all boards need to be drilled prior to screwing or nailing, as IPE is a very dense wood.
regards---knothead
Sonny posted 02-06-2004 12:01 PM ET (US)
I am a custom homebuilder and will give you one caution: Cut it outside, it's dust/sawdust is acidic like and permiates painted walls/ drywall, etc. impossible to get out, I learned the hard way. Great HARDwood!
HAPPYJIM posted 02-06-2004 12:19 PM ET (US)
Sonny
Have you installed this outside without a sealer?
If so, How long ago and how is it holding up?
I understand it is used on the boardwalk in Atlantic city.
That would be a pretty good test of the marine environment without being in the water.
Sonny posted 02-06-2004 02:38 PM ET (US)
Never have used it outside, due to it's durability, we normally use it on the interior side of exterior door thresholds.
HAPPYJIM posted 02-06-2004 03:50 PM ET (US)
Thanks Sonny.
SMLWhaler posted 02-09-2004 09:49 AM ET (US)
Just finished doing the interior of my 13' last weekend. Ipe is some hard stuff. I bought #8 stainless steel screws and a bit and counter sink to match the screws. Broke several drill bits and twisted the heads off several stainless steel screws before I finally realized I was going to need a larger bit to get through the first piece of wood. With the pre drilled holes the appropriate size the tolerance was so tight and the wood so hard it was causing the heads of the stainless screws to twist off.
I used 1"X6" decking Ipe for my interior. Since this wood has so much oil content its virtually impossable to glue up so I butted 2 pieces together for the seats and screwed them together with stainless steel screws with cross braces every 18 inches on the bottom. I used this same principle for the anchor locker up front. I had to rip the side rails down to size and then use a circular saw and jig saw to make the notches for the seats. I also made a new steering console using the same approach. It turned out really nice. The Ipe I used was already stained a rich brown. It also came with a can of wax like solution for sealing up cross cuts and rip cuts.
The only care instructions I was given was maybe a pressure washing once a year and apply some teak oil/mineral oil 2 or 3 times a year.
Great Stuff!!!!
SMLWhaler posted 02-09-2004 09:56 AM ET (US)
I paid $2.19/ft. for the wood for a total cost of $114.00 plus the hardware and other supplies total was around $130.00.
This is great stuff. Maybe a little heavier than mahogany but the durability factor needs to be considered when adding the extra weight.
dfloeter posted 02-09-2004 10:24 AM ET (US)
Where did you buy the wood at that price?
SMLWhaler posted 02-09-2004 10:57 AM ET (US)
Ideal Building Supply in Rocky Mount Virginia.
HAPPYJIM posted 02-09-2004 11:24 AM ET (US)
Thanks SMLWhaler
I'm debating doing some work on rainy days in my shop.
I really only wanted to do seats, bilge pump covers, bow lockers, rod holder brackets and cooler cleats....the simple stuff.
Just wondering if there would be a market for those items.

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Author	Topic: Ipe wood
SMLWhaler	posted 02-04-2004 09:17 AM ET (US) Has Ipe been used as a replacement wood on the interior of a Boston Whaler?
hauptjm	posted 02-04-2004 02:27 PM ET (US) Try here first, then try a search, you may find more. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005701.html
jimh	posted 02-04-2004 07:57 PM ET (US) [Administrative post]
HAPPYJIM	posted 02-05-2004 05:03 PM ET (US) I'm not sure where to post this question. The other topic didn't have much except where Guts had used IPE for cooler cleats. Has anyone used IPE for seats and if so, how is it holding up? I have a friend that is a distributor for IPE in NE North Carolina and can buy it at a reasonable price. I would like to replace all the wood in a 13 Sport that is rotted and painted white. I know it is heavier and will add probably #50 to the boat.
knothead	posted 02-06-2004 08:38 AM ET (US) Here at work, we have several salesmen who sell IPE by the truckload. In most cases it is used for outdoor decks in lieu of treated pine or synthetic boards (Trex,etc.).IPE weathers to a gray-brown color and is naturally very rot resistant. One precaution to remember is that the ends of the boards need to be sealed with a product like Anchor Seal to prevent cracking and checking over time. Also, all boards need to be drilled prior to screwing or nailing, as IPE is a very dense wood. regards---knothead
Sonny	posted 02-06-2004 12:01 PM ET (US) I am a custom homebuilder and will give you one caution: Cut it outside, it's dust/sawdust is acidic like and permiates painted walls/ drywall, etc. impossible to get out, I learned the hard way. Great HARDwood!
HAPPYJIM	posted 02-06-2004 12:19 PM ET (US) Sonny Have you installed this outside without a sealer? If so, How long ago and how is it holding up? I understand it is used on the boardwalk in Atlantic city. That would be a pretty good test of the marine environment without being in the water.
Sonny	posted 02-06-2004 02:38 PM ET (US) Never have used it outside, due to it's durability, we normally use it on the interior side of exterior door thresholds.
HAPPYJIM	posted 02-06-2004 03:50 PM ET (US) Thanks Sonny.
SMLWhaler	posted 02-09-2004 09:49 AM ET (US) Just finished doing the interior of my 13' last weekend. Ipe is some hard stuff. I bought #8 stainless steel screws and a bit and counter sink to match the screws. Broke several drill bits and twisted the heads off several stainless steel screws before I finally realized I was going to need a larger bit to get through the first piece of wood. With the pre drilled holes the appropriate size the tolerance was so tight and the wood so hard it was causing the heads of the stainless screws to twist off. I used 1"X6" decking Ipe for my interior. Since this wood has so much oil content its virtually impossable to glue up so I butted 2 pieces together for the seats and screwed them together with stainless steel screws with cross braces every 18 inches on the bottom. I used this same principle for the anchor locker up front. I had to rip the side rails down to size and then use a circular saw and jig saw to make the notches for the seats. I also made a new steering console using the same approach. It turned out really nice. The Ipe I used was already stained a rich brown. It also came with a can of wax like solution for sealing up cross cuts and rip cuts. The only care instructions I was given was maybe a pressure washing once a year and apply some teak oil/mineral oil 2 or 3 times a year. Great Stuff!!!!
SMLWhaler	posted 02-09-2004 09:56 AM ET (US) I paid $2.19/ft. for the wood for a total cost of $114.00 plus the hardware and other supplies total was around $130.00. This is great stuff. Maybe a little heavier than mahogany but the durability factor needs to be considered when adding the extra weight.
dfloeter	posted 02-09-2004 10:24 AM ET (US) Where did you buy the wood at that price?
SMLWhaler	posted 02-09-2004 10:57 AM ET (US) Ideal Building Supply in Rocky Mount Virginia.
HAPPYJIM	posted 02-09-2004 11:24 AM ET (US) Thanks SMLWhaler I'm debating doing some work on rainy days in my shop. I really only wanted to do seats, bilge pump covers, bow lockers, rod holder brackets and cooler cleats....the simple stuff. Just wondering if there would be a market for those items.