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jeffs22outrage posted 11-22-2004 01:09 PM ET (US)   Profile for jeffs22outrage   Send Email to jeffs22outrage  

As many of you have seen a previous post I am going through the labor intensive process of recoring the floor in my 22 Outrage.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007248.html
http://photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/

Unfortunately I did something I hate to admit to doing yesterday. While removing the old wood yesterday I got a Very sharp chisel stuck under the old plywood and with out thinking I picked up a hammer to dislodge it. This act of mindless prehistoric logic caused the Chisel to break through the floor. I was beside myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2377.jpg

Now mind you this can easily be fixed and it is even easier because the floor is out of the boat and being repaired any way. But that is was not the point. My floor is in great condition and I would hate to see this patch in the floor. It will always be a focal point when ever I am in the boat.

My solution is to repair it with some new gel coat. However, What do I Do to replicate the tread in my floor? I thought of many things, a screen or perf metal, or even resculpting by hand the pattern. But I knew no of this would be a perfect match. That is when I decided I would have to make a mold of the pattern. After thinking about I came up with hot glue as my answer. Here is the step by step of how I created the mold and I am very pleased with the result.

First I took some scrap foam core, cut it into strips, and ran double face tape down the edges.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2382.jpg

Once that was done I affixed the foam in s box to keep the clue on a think contained unit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2383.jpg


With the mold now set for the pour I first ran a Hot bead of glue (400+ F) around the area where the foam was taped to the hatch cover. Then in a tight back and forth pattern I began to fill the mold with hot glue. It is important the you put the following line of glue slightly over the bead you just laid so they melt together there is no weak points.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2384.jpg


Once the mold was full I added a piece of brass stock to give me something to pry against to get the glue to release from the floor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2385.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2386.jpg


With the edges of the mold removed and the glue cooled and cold from ice I can now begin to remove the part.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2387.jpg

While the brass helped to release the part it made it difficult for the rest of the removal process. So I cut it out and the part then pealed off the floor with a constant strong pulling side to side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2388.jpg

Now with the part removed I can use it to re pattern to repair in my deck. When I place it back over the decking it finds to go pattern and sets itself in the right spot. Then with a heavy weight over the part it should press the pattern into the new gel coat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/IMGP2397.jpg

Now where can I buy Desert Tan gel coat?

jeffs22outrage posted 11-22-2004 01:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
BTW...I owe my fathr a big thank you. He is the guy you see working in all the pics. And he is the guy helping fund the floor repair. I hope someday that will be me in the pics and my son taking the pics.
nFL_Bosn69 posted 11-22-2004 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for nFL_Bosn69  Send Email to nFL_Bosn69     
Try here:

http://www.spectrumcolor.com/catalog.htm

Good Luck

Ryan

jeffs22outrage posted 11-22-2004 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
Ryan, Thanks I just ordered a patch kit....
alkar posted 11-22-2004 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
Thank you Jeff. That was an ingenious solution to your problem, and you presented it very well.

Gibco makes "flex-mold" in most non-skid patterns, including the most common Whaller pattern, but they didn't have the pattern I needed for the non-skid on my Whaler (They may have that other Whaler pattern now).

jechura posted 11-22-2004 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for jechura  Send Email to jechura     
Jeff

Either you or your Dad from your photos have excellent country retreat to work on your Whaler.

Jerry

jeffs22outrage posted 11-23-2004 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
Jerry, The house belongs to a family friend. It is 3 acres with a barn just outside of Clarkston (northern detroit suburb) and it is for sale. Unfortunity it is out of my price range...
phatwhaler posted 11-23-2004 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
Jeff,

IT's hard to tell if this will work from a picture but you may be able to install a bigger hatch that would require you to remove that section of your broken deck. There are two deck hatches on my boat, the one next to the console and the one next to the splach well. The smaller one is for the fuel sending unit and the larger hatch is for the fuel line connection. I can't tell what the size and scale is from your picture but it's worth a look. I have a '96 20 Outrage by the way.

phatwhaler out.

17 bodega posted 11-23-2004 12:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
Nice work Jeff.

Keep us posted on the progress. I also like your idea to blend the non skid surface. I have this project to take on with my old blue hull.

Steve

sjohnson posted 11-24-2004 01:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for sjohnson  Send Email to sjohnson     
Great idea. Jimh, this would make a great addition to the repair section. Now, I'm interested to see how you complete the project. Hot glue is a great product, much more versatile than most think . . .

-SJohnson

Cicada posted 11-24-2004 09:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Jeff,

Nice job. I like your thinking. I never would have considered hot glue.

Make sure you post the result.

Paul

John O posted 11-24-2004 10:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
Are we talking a hot glue gun that is used for crafts? I think my wife has one. It would be a first if I were to borrow a tool from her.
John O posted 11-24-2004 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
Can the mold be used more than once?
jeffs22outrage posted 11-29-2004 09:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
John O,

I used an industrail glue gun that puts the glue out at 400+F. I am not sure a small crafts glue gun would keep the glue hot enough long enough.

As for the reuseability of the mold. I am not sure since I have just created the mold so far. I have not completed the repair because I am still waiting for the spectrum color patch kit and my floor to be recored.

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