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rickba posted 07-29-2006 08:47 AM ET (US)
I am a novice trying to replace the ingition switch in my Rage. I think I have mixed up the wires and connectors bc it will not start. Does anyone have advice on how to sort this out? Now I am not sure which wire is which and do not have wire color guide. The switch has 2 "M" positions which is confusing. Also, the new switch as an "I" connection while the old one did not have an "I" (but had an "A"). Help would be greatly appreciated so I can get on the water for my vacation! Thanks!
Rick
Whaler_bob posted 07-29-2006 09:23 AM ET (US)
Don't know anything about the Rage boats, but if the engine is OMC or Merc then the color codes are probably here:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/wireColorCode.html
"M" is for Magneto, on some outboards the two Magneto leads get connected to these posts. When shorted together, it kills the ignition circuit.
"I" is usually a + 12dc switched lead that provides +12 volts when the ignition switch is in the run position. It provides voltage to gagues, ignition coil on old automotive style ignition systems, etc...
rickba posted 07-29-2006 09:33 AM ET (US)
Thanks. What color are the magneto wires? The wire color list does not mention them. Also, the color list shows "pink" for "fuel sender"....is this what I should attach to the terminal labelled "C" for choke?
Whaler_bob posted 07-29-2006 10:02 AM ET (US)
What's the brand (Mercury, OMC, etc...) and year of the engine?
rickba posted 07-29-2006 10:08 AM ET (US)
1994 OMC.
Whaler_bob posted 07-29-2006 11:09 AM ET (US)
I reread your first post, and I think you may have the wrong switch for your application.
The two "M" terminals are usually found on outboard type ignition switches, not inboard ignition switches.
The "I" terminal is supposed to supply 12 volts to the ignition system, the "A" on the old switch was the Accessory terminal.
At this point, it may be best to take the new switch and the old one back to the omc dealer and replace it with one that matches the old one. Unless we can match up the terminals.
How many wires went to the old switch and what were their colors and exactly what terminals did each color wire go to on the old switch?
where2 posted 07-30-2006 11:55 AM ET (US)
The Choke (fuel primer) wire that goes into the wiring harness on the engine side of the big red plug in the engine compartment is purple and white stripe. (according to the Turbojet Service Manual)
Unfortunately, at the moment I cannot find my other two reference manuals to consult for OMC wiring info. The boat end of things is not shown in the Turbojet service manual, it stops at the big red plug. However, it should be similar to a '94 Johnson/Evinrude control box.
jimh posted 08-08-2006 09:20 PM ET (US)
[This article was originally posted to THE GAM but has been moved to this discussion area because this discussion area is specifically designed to discuss this topic.]
Chuck Tribolet posted 08-09-2006 01:15 PM ET (US)
Whaler_bob, it may be inboard, but isn't it justa a two-stroke
OMC powerhead? Still needs the magneto killed to stop the
engine.

And you should be able to get the color codes from:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000660.html
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/wireColorCode.html

Chuck

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Author	Topic: Rage Ignition Wiring
rickba	posted 07-29-2006 08:47 AM ET (US) I am a novice trying to replace the ingition switch in my Rage. I think I have mixed up the wires and connectors bc it will not start. Does anyone have advice on how to sort this out? Now I am not sure which wire is which and do not have wire color guide. The switch has 2 "M" positions which is confusing. Also, the new switch as an "I" connection while the old one did not have an "I" (but had an "A"). Help would be greatly appreciated so I can get on the water for my vacation! Thanks! Rick
Whaler_bob	posted 07-29-2006 09:23 AM ET (US) Don't know anything about the Rage boats, but if the engine is OMC or Merc then the color codes are probably here: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/wireColorCode.html "M" is for Magneto, on some outboards the two Magneto leads get connected to these posts. When shorted together, it kills the ignition circuit. "I" is usually a + 12dc switched lead that provides +12 volts when the ignition switch is in the run position. It provides voltage to gagues, ignition coil on old automotive style ignition systems, etc...
rickba	posted 07-29-2006 09:33 AM ET (US) Thanks. What color are the magneto wires? The wire color list does not mention them. Also, the color list shows "pink" for "fuel sender"....is this what I should attach to the terminal labelled "C" for choke?
Whaler_bob	posted 07-29-2006 10:02 AM ET (US) What's the brand (Mercury, OMC, etc...) and year of the engine?
rickba	posted 07-29-2006 10:08 AM ET (US) 1994 OMC.
Whaler_bob	posted 07-29-2006 11:09 AM ET (US) I reread your first post, and I think you may have the wrong switch for your application. The two "M" terminals are usually found on outboard type ignition switches, not inboard ignition switches. The "I" terminal is supposed to supply 12 volts to the ignition system, the "A" on the old switch was the Accessory terminal. At this point, it may be best to take the new switch and the old one back to the omc dealer and replace it with one that matches the old one. Unless we can match up the terminals. How many wires went to the old switch and what were their colors and exactly what terminals did each color wire go to on the old switch?
where2	posted 07-30-2006 11:55 AM ET (US) The Choke (fuel primer) wire that goes into the wiring harness on the engine side of the big red plug in the engine compartment is purple and white stripe. (according to the Turbojet Service Manual) Unfortunately, at the moment I cannot find my other two reference manuals to consult for OMC wiring info. The boat end of things is not shown in the Turbojet service manual, it stops at the big red plug. However, it should be similar to a '94 Johnson/Evinrude control box.
jimh	posted 08-08-2006 09:20 PM ET (US) [This article was originally posted to THE GAM but has been moved to this discussion area because this discussion area is specifically designed to discuss this topic.]
Chuck Tribolet	posted 08-09-2006 01:15 PM ET (US) Whaler_bob, it may be inboard, but isn't it justa a two-stroke OMC powerhead? Still needs the magneto killed to stop the engine. And you should be able to get the color codes from: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000660.html http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/wireColorCode.html Chuck