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halobiont posted 02-26-2014 10:08 AM ET (US)
[Moved to SMALL BOAT ELETRICAL. Smartcraft, the system, and the Smartcraft products like VesselView are usually discussed in SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL. The SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL tries to concentrate on small boat electrical and electronic topics.--jimh]
Hi. Has anyone replaced the SmartCraft with VesselView? Do you have to replace the DTS throttle also? This one is on a 2007 305 Conquest. Thanks,
Doug
Jefecinco posted 02-26-2014 02:35 PM ET (US)
I believe Vessel View works with SmartCraft. DTS is not affected.--Butch
jimh posted 02-27-2014 04:21 PM ET (US)
I am making a guess that halobiont writes "the Smartcraft" he is really refering to some particular product in the Smartcraft gauge product line, and not to the whole system of Smartcraft devices and their networks on the boat. The VesselView product is another product in the Smartcraft gauge product line.
DTS is a digital throttle and shift system. I believe that in the Mercury engines the DTS data runs on its own network, not on the same network as the Smartcraft instrumentation.
I don't believe you would have to change any component of the digital throttle and shift system's throttle handle control because you changed to a difference gauge on the Smartcraft network.
I recommend you contact a Mercury dealer who has a lot of experience with Smartcraft and DTS. These technologies are not really designed for the end user to be installing or modifying, but you may be able to get some free advice. It has always been a chore for me find any good information from Mercury about the details of Smartcraft and their products. See
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000978.html and
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003345.html
OMCrobert posted 02-28-2014 11:17 AM ET (US)
You can just add the [VesselView] in addition to existing gauges. It is very simple and is plug and play.
jimh posted 03-01-2014 02:34 PM ET (US)
Whether or not any particular modification of boat electrical and electronic wiring is considered simple or easy depends greatly on the experience and familiarity of the person who is undertaking the modification. Sometimes it is possible to get a sense of the experience level of a person by the sort of questions they ask. I think it might be helpful if more information could be provided other than a cursory remark that this modification is easy. As a Dylan Thomas once remarked, "Oh, Easy...for Leonardo."
Here is a link to the Mercury Marine instructions for installing VesselView. Note the instructions mention various versions of the wiring that may exist and various adpators that may be needed. I suggest you review the 17-pages and form your own opinions about the complexity.
jimh posted 03-02-2014 08:12 AM ET (US)
Here is an excerpt from the Mercury instructions:

quote:
This document guides our dealers, boatbuilders, and company service personnel in the proper installation or service of our products. If you have not been trained in the recommended servicing or installation procedures for these or similar Mercury Marine products, have the work performed by an authorized Mercury Marine dealer technician.
Here we have an explicit declaration from Mercury that affirms precisely what I mentioned earlier:

quote:
These technologies are not really designed for the end user to be installing or modifying....

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Author	Topic: Replacing DTS Throttle In Smartcraft
halobiont	posted 02-26-2014 10:08 AM ET (US) [Moved to SMALL BOAT ELETRICAL. Smartcraft, the system, and the Smartcraft products like VesselView are usually discussed in SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL. The SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL tries to concentrate on small boat electrical and electronic topics.--jimh] Hi. Has anyone replaced the SmartCraft with VesselView? Do you have to replace the DTS throttle also? This one is on a 2007 305 Conquest. Thanks, Doug
Jefecinco	posted 02-26-2014 02:35 PM ET (US) I believe Vessel View works with SmartCraft. DTS is not affected.--Butch
jimh	posted 02-27-2014 04:21 PM ET (US) I am making a guess that halobiont writes "the Smartcraft" he is really refering to some particular product in the Smartcraft gauge product line, and not to the whole system of Smartcraft devices and their networks on the boat. The VesselView product is another product in the Smartcraft gauge product line. DTS is a digital throttle and shift system. I believe that in the Mercury engines the DTS data runs on its own network, not on the same network as the Smartcraft instrumentation. I don't believe you would have to change any component of the digital throttle and shift system's throttle handle control because you changed to a difference gauge on the Smartcraft network. I recommend you contact a Mercury dealer who has a lot of experience with Smartcraft and DTS. These technologies are not really designed for the end user to be installing or modifying, but you may be able to get some free advice. It has always been a chore for me find any good information from Mercury about the details of Smartcraft and their products. See http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000978.html and http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003345.html
OMCrobert	posted 02-28-2014 11:17 AM ET (US) You can just add the [VesselView] in addition to existing gauges. It is very simple and is plug and play.
jimh	posted 03-01-2014 02:34 PM ET (US) Whether or not any particular modification of boat electrical and electronic wiring is considered simple or easy depends greatly on the experience and familiarity of the person who is undertaking the modification. Sometimes it is possible to get a sense of the experience level of a person by the sort of questions they ask. I think it might be helpful if more information could be provided other than a cursory remark that this modification is easy. As a Dylan Thomas once remarked, "Oh, Easy...for Leonardo." Here is a link to the Mercury Marine instructions for installing VesselView. Note the instructions mention various versions of the wiring that may exist and various adpators that may be needed. I suggest you review the 17-pages and form your own opinions about the complexity.
jimh	posted 03-02-2014 08:12 AM ET (US) Here is an excerpt from the Mercury instructions: quote: This document guides our dealers, boatbuilders, and company service personnel in the proper installation or service of our products. If you have not been trained in the recommended servicing or installation procedures for these or similar Mercury Marine products, have the work performed by an authorized Mercury Marine dealer technician. Here we have an explicit declaration from Mercury that affirms precisely what I mentioned earlier: quote: These technologies are not really designed for the end user to be installing or modifying....