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I have a 1987 Revenge 22 with a 1989 Evinrude 200 looper. It has served my family well for 27 years. Last year it had some difficulty getting ten people on plane. I never had this in the past. I checked PSI at the end of year. I think it was about 85-PSI to 90-PSI. So that [engine] is suspect. It has been living on borrowed time. I don't see this engine on Shinnicock Bay, Long Island, and think I have one of the last ones running. It may be time for a new E-TEC.

I thought the E-TEC engine were less weight, but, unless my research is flawed, it looks like a new 200 or 225 E-TEC will weigh more than my 1989 200 looper. I was not expecting this. Old Whalers are low in the back and I am concerned about back water with additional weight.

Revenge 22 owners out there with E-TEC 200 or 225 can chime in.

I was thinking of 250-HP but that is out of the question with even more weight.

Also I think my engine is 20-inch. [Does Evinrude] still make a 20-inch?

A new E-TEC costs quite a bit so I don't want to make a very costly mistake.

I appreciate any feedback on the 22 Revenge re-power.

Thanks!
Ken

{Editor's note: two sidebar topics about completely different boats with completely different engines were removed from this thread in order to keep the thread focused on the original topic--jimh]

In 2003 I repowered my 1990 Revenge 22 W-T with a Mercury 225 OptiMax (blew my 1990 225 Johnson). Never regretted it. The 225 cruises at 29 knots, tops at [more than] 40 knots (43 at times). Getting over 3-nmpg. The boat is fantastic with 225.

Shinnecock Bay? I grew up on the north side of Great Peconic Bay (Laurel) with a 1963 Boston Whaler Sport. Used to come through the Canal and SCUBA dive Shinnecock Inlet for lobsters. Fun when you're 15 or 16 years old. Used to go to "the ocean" by car at Quogue. Clams are coming back in Great Peconic. I'll be out there June 23-Jul 12.

JimP

I had a 1992 Evinrude V6 3.0-liter looper. The cylinder peak pressure in PSI was always around 90-PSI. I think a reading of 90-PSI is very typical for that engine. I would not consider that reading 90-PSI on all cylinders was indicative of a flaw or defect or failure in the engine; it would be quite normal in my opinion and based on my experience. See

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/018662.html

The weight of a 3.0-liter Evinrude V6 looper c.1989 engine was 455-lbs. See

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/011042.html

You seem confused about the weight of an E-TEC 250-HP engine compared to an E-TEC 225-HP engine. They are the same weight, 524-lbs. The weight of E-TEC engines is clearly stated by Evinrude and does not require extensive research to determine. See:

http://www.evinrude.com/en-us/engines/e ... tec_225_v6

The new E-TEC V6 3.3-liter engine weighs about 70-lbs more than the older Evinrude V6.

The shaft length of E-TEC engines varies by model and is clearly stated by Evinrude. You can find the shaft length listed in the specifications. The E-TEC 225-HP engine is available in shaft length of 25-inches. The 200-HP is available in 20-inch and 25-inch shaft length. The 250-HP is available in 25-inch and 30-inch. See the Evinrude website at

http://www.evinrude.com/en-us/engines/e ... tec_225_v6

You seem confused about the recommended engine shaft length for a 1987 REVENGE 22. For a single engine the recommended shaft length is 25-inches. See the REFERENCE Section article on hull specifications at

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/refere ... hulls20-22

Since you seem to be considering re-powering with a single engine, you could choose a 25-inch shaft engine from Evinrude in the E-TEC in 200, 225, and 250-HP model, and all have the same weight.

I have a 1990 Boston Whaler REVENGE 22 W-T Whaler Drive. I have tested the boat with a 2009 E-TEC 250 H.O. engine, and I re-powered with a 2010 Evinrude E-TEC 225. I have written extensively about the performance of the boat in prior articles. For more information, see these articles:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/006964.html

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/006855.html

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008103.html

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/ETEC250HO.html

Since my REVENGE 22 has a Whaler Drive, I don't have the open notched transom of the REVENGE 22. If you were concerned about increasing the engine weight by 70-lbs, you could compensate somewhat by moving the engine battery forward. You could also move the oil reservoir forward. Generally on REVENGE models the weight of the cabin superstructure on the forward part of the hull tends to improve the trim on the boat so that water sloshing over the open notched transom is not a big concern, at least not as much concern as with the OUTRAGE models.

Wow such great feedback information (22 Revenge 1989) I am embarrassed that I could not find my thread.

We did re-power with an ETEC 250 H.O. two years ago--a bit over-powered and unfortunately squirrly on the steering (it seems to move left and right with not much input). Not sure if this is a function of possible water in the hull after all these years (1989) or just an over-weight engine. I have yet to try it with just one or two people (lots of family). With 10 adults it clocks at 44-MPH SOG on a smartphone GNSS, but if one person moves a few feet side to side you have to compensate with steering or trim tab, this was not a problem with 1989 200 looper.

A Whaler drive may help, but I don't have one. For now no inexperienced captains.

There does not seem to be much in the way of authorized repair facilities in LI NY. I was out in Greenport NY and was quoted $1,250 for the 300 hr. service on the 250 H.O. for plugs, oil, filters, water pump, etc. As I did all maintenance on my 1989 200 looper and 90 Hp (17 Montauk) this seems quite pricey.

Will anyone share what they have recently paid for the 300 hour service?

ASIDE on different boats: I still have the 1972 13 sport that my father gave me and my two brothers in 1972 they want it out of mom's driveway but much too much connection for me to let go of. Has an old 40 that I am still keeping alive, not the original as my brother took it upstate years ago and "something happened" but an 80's Evenrude. The Revenge and the Montauk had 1989 Evinrude engines that lasted 4-ever, sure they had problems but at least I could fix them. Both are E-TEC now and get phenomenal gas mileage and have plenty of power. My brother tried to ski off my cousin's 17 Outrage with a 115 Honda and it nearly pulled his arms off (could not get up). Yes at 58 with my E-TEC 90 thankfully do not have that problem! -no pun intended.

Great site! hope you all are having a good summer!

Thanks for the follow-up information.

On your new topic, Cost of E-TEC Service, I have begun a new thread in the REPAIRS and MODIFICATION section to discuss this topic. The PERFORMANCE forum really does not discuss engine service costs as part of boat performance optimization. Please see my remarks to your question at

E-TEC Service Costs
http://continuouswave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3779